Maybe you know everything about the Roswell UFO and maybe not

The video I am posting starts slow but gains momentum when actual eye witness accounts are discussed.

We have several members at ATS who are interested in most things UFO so I figure they might get something out of the video they have not heard before. Enjoy youtu.be...

a reply to: 727Sky

Has Trump not got the skinny on Roswell?

Probably not all the same, and just another dog whistle to masses out there that may want some answers.

Given the fact that myself, my brother and three family friends (and probably half of Phoenix) saw something we couldn't identify cruising over Phoenix the week of July 4th, 1976, something that military jets went after and couldn't catch up to, yeah it interests me in a big way.

I don't think we'll ever know the whole truth. Our government got real good at hiding things in the 1950s.

originally posted by: HalWesten
Given the fact that myself, my brother and three family friends (and probably half of Phoenix) saw something we couldn't identify cruising over Phoenix the week of July 4th, 1976, something that military jets went after and couldn't catch up to, yeah it interests me in a big way.

I don't think we'll ever know the whole truth. Our government got real good at hiding things in the 1950s.

Could it have been the F-117 ?

a reply to: 727Sky

Pretty interesting so far. Thank you!

Watched the whole thing and enjoyed it.

originally posted by: Gothmog

originally posted by: HalWesten
Given the fact that myself, my brother and three family friends (and probably half of Phoenix) saw something we couldn't identify cruising over Phoenix the week of July 4th, 1976, something that military jets went after and couldn't catch up to, yeah it interests me in a big way.

I don't think we'll ever know the whole truth. Our government got real good at hiding things in the 1950s.

Could it have been the F-117 ?

Definitely not, it was dish or oval shaped, like the common description and had lights around the outside. It made a humming sound, not like a propeller or engine at all. It wasn't high either, if I remember right it was only 100' or so above us. Not directly above us, like a couple of blocks over and it moved slowly. When it reached the downtown area we started hearing jets coming behind us. That's when the - not sure what term to use really - craft? moved more quickly toward what our friends called the South Mountains. When it got there it turned up at a steep angle and was gone within seconds. The jets went screaming by us pretty low themselves, probably just a few hundred feet or so. The roar from the jets was amazing, that's something I'll never forget.

I don't remember my brother being outside with us at the time but Phoenix came up in a conversation last winter and he asked if I remembered what we saw back then. So it wasn't just me.

I think it was some sort of prop or something our people built because I have always wondered why ETs would need lights if they are that advanced?

I see uamn went over the edge, or maybe it was over the edge before and i just now observed it. In any case there is a great thread here by The Gut named roswell for dummies That has some great info.

Also jaime mousean? Jaime mousey mousean??

a reply to: HalWesten

I think it was some sort of prop or something our people built because I have always wondered why ETs would need lights if they are that advanced?

If they are truly ET spacecraft capable of doing the things that have been reported by multiple eye witnesses why not light that puppy up and show the primitives we are here and watching; nothing we the primitives or the technology challenged can do about it anyway..

Call it a flag waving mission where you go and make sure a few see you so there is always just the right amount of gossip and wonder going around. TPTB get all flustered so scientific endeavors are tucked away in some hidden black project trying to figure out just what to heck is going on and why can't we do that ...? All this from a few lights or a good hard visual... Pretty good mission plan IMO.

a reply to: Gothmog

for many reasons no

originally posted by: HalWesten
Definitely not, it was dish or oval shaped, like the common description and had lights around the outside. It made a humming sound, not like a propeller or engine at all. It wasn't high either, if I remember right it was only 100' or so above us. Not directly above us, like a couple of blocks over and it moved slowly. When it reached the downtown area we started hearing jets coming behind us. That's when the - not sure what term to use really - craft? moved more quickly toward what our friends called the South Mountains. When it got there it turned up at a steep angle and was gone within seconds. The jets went screaming by us pretty low themselves, probably just a few hundred feet or so. The roar from the jets was amazing, that's something I'll never forget.

You were lucky actual flying saucer sightings are actually not that common. I would have loved to see it.

As for why they have lights, I assume it's for the same reason our airplanes have them. So nobody crashes into them. Real UFOs are funny. They don't seem to care much about being seen, they just don't like to interact. Abductions, that's another story, but I suspect those just show a different way these things "travel," which would be in a kind of semi-physical way. Like super remote viewing that is so advanced that there is at least some degree of actual physical interaction involved. Like imagining you're on the Moon and you fall on a rock and skin your knee and when you wake up you actually have a scraped knee. Just a thought.

originally posted by: HalWesten

...I think it was some sort of prop or something our people built because I have always wondered why ETs would need lights if they are that advanced?

Because ET's cannot see in the dark?

This part of the argument always amuses me because if we ever got to the stage where the human race was visiting another world with its craft, we wouldn't do it with no lights on or even without some kind of identifying lights or design that wasn't intended for our own kind.

So advanced they don't need lights?
I don't go with that.

The only people who know EVERYTHING about Roswell are already dead. And the ones alive today who know most of the information are not talking. They do not want to loose their pensions or their life.

a reply to: fromtheskydown

I think we are foolish to think that other life forms would use lights for the same reasons we do. They could have a totally different function, something we aren't aware of.
I hear Joe Rogan go on and on about how stupid it is to think they use lights. It really irks me, because that is coming from a very egocentric place. We know very little, and understand even less about the nature of things.

a reply to: HalWesten
Just wait. You will have some comedian come on here and try to tell you that it was a group of planes flying together in formation because some kid with a telescope said so. Even though everyone who saw it said it was not and called him out as either mistaken or a liar. All those witnesses shut that kid up immediately when they had their city meeting.

Just the fact that people said it flew away so fast as to nearly disappear rules out any kind of human craft, especially a bunch of propeller planes flying together real slow.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: 727Sky

Has Trump not got the skinny on Roswell?

Probably not all the same, and just another dog whistle to masses out there that may want some answers.

The dog whistle is designed so that only the dogs can hear it. I suppose this is where this saying you posted comes from, Trump saying something only Trumps base could understand.

Funny thing is, every time I hear something about a dog whistle its always pointed out by the people that aren't supposed to hear it?

a reply to: chelsdh
Joe Rogan is a ding-dong. I know the saucer I saw was not using normal "lights" - because up close the "lights" looked more like plasma exhaust.

a reply to: spiritualarchitect

I actually really enjoy the Rogan podcast. He has given a great platform to many diverse ideas. However, he gets really hung up on some really small, stupid stuff. He's not a dumb guy, which is why it annoys me.

ETA- did you really survive the triangle? lol. I'd have asked in a u2u, but those are kinda wonky.

Trump is a money man. When he went over the governmet budget a couple years ago he knew right away that a trillion was missing. They had to tell him it went to secret black projects and him being pro-military (as opposed to Obama and Clinton) they probably told him as much as they needed to. He KNOWS – but how much he knows we will never know because he will never tells us.

But then again he is a rebel. Maybe on his death bed he will make one last grand statement before going out. I would not put it past him.

i HATE to be that guy, but.......Jaime Mussaun??
There’s this guy named Billy Meier you might be interested in too.

originally posted by: spiritualarchitect
a reply to: chelsdh
Joe Rogan is a ding-dong. I know the saucer I saw was not using normal "lights" - because up close the "lights" looked more like plasma exhaust.

I know you’re telling the truth because I have seen that as well. It’s funny that we somehow instinctively know it’s plasma even though it’s the only time we’ve seen plasma do that.