Are we trapped in the Saturn cube?

Over the last few years, I’ve been interested in the black Saturn cube. If anyone here is new to the black Saturn cube it’s basically a cube often black and shown balancing on its edge. There are monuments of it in various sites throughout the world and it’s shown in movies, music videos and other media. Unfortunately, there’s not a lot of information about the black cube and so it’s very much open to interpretation about what it represents. It’s my view that the Saturn cube represents a prison. In conversation with a friend, he described the cube by saying: “The cube is a reference to the synthetic reality that has been imposed on creatures of the physical plane of existence. It’s very much the ‘matrix’ that is used to bind spirit and consciousness”. I feel that this interpretation of the Saturn cube is apt and fits with how the cube is often portrayed.

In pop-culture, the cube is often portrayed as a prison that humans are trapped inside, sometimes associated with virtual reality and time-loops. For example, in the movie 2036: Origin Unknown, the protagonist finds themselves trapped in a black cube experiencing a virtual reality time-loop, until they eventually escape. They only escape the virtual reality after passing a test and becoming more ‘human’. Similarly, in the movie Infinity Chamber, the protagonist finds themselves trapped in a room (which has been designed to resemble a black cube) and they are also trapped in a time-loop while experiencing a virtual reality. This idea seems to be reinforced by other TV shows and movies. For example, in the TV show Sherwood, the black cube is portrayed as a prison that humans reside within which is similar to the cubed-prison in the Marvel Universe, the cubed-prison called the Glade in the Maze Runner, and of course the prison in The Cube movies.


Another movie that possibly references the Saturn cube is 2001: A Space Odyssey. In this movie, the Monolith was originally designed as a black cube and was located near Saturn (originally). Considering the fact that the Monolith was originally meant to be a cube I don’t think it’s unreasonable to suggest an association with the Monolith (near Saturn) and the Saturn cube. One could interpret the end of 2001 as Bowman escaping a virtual reality and ascending into a higher dimension. This idea may be supported by the name of HAL, who Bowman overcomes before ascending. According to James Jordan: “Gnostics had a specific term for our capacity to model reality: HAL: Simulation. The Gnostic concept of HAL is close to what we today understand as virtual reality”. At the end of 2001, after overcoming HAL, Bowman, enters or escapes the Monolith and is transformed. One could interpret this as Bowman escaping the Saturn cube. Given all these movie references; are they trying to tell us something? Could we ourselves be trapped within the cube here on Earth?

In some ancient cosmology, Heaven is represented as a circle (or sphere) and the Earth is represented by the square (or cube). This cosmography is known as “gai tian”. Heaven is traditionally represented in 2-dimensions by the circle (3-dimensions by the sphere) and the Earth is represented by the square (in 3-dimensions by the cube). Here Heaven refers to the universal principle of consciousness and Earth refers primarily to the 3-dimensional spatial matrix where individual impulses of the spirit are given apparent material forms. In this traditional ancient conception, the symbol of the cube represents the reality we experience as the material world. This philosophy has also been incorporated into Freemasonry. In Masonry, the circular Compass (in the Square and Compass) represents Heaven and ‘higher consciousness’ with the Square representing Earth and ‘lower consciousness’.

The black cube is also associated with the horned-deity Baphomet. In 1856, Éliphas Lévi drew the first image of Baphomet that took the form of a hermaphrodite half-human-half-goat which was adopted by the 1910 Devil Tarot Card. His drawing showed Baphomet perched on top of a black cube. In the Éliphas-inspired 1910 Devil Tarot Card, two people are shown chained to the black cube, with Baphomet authoritatively perched on top (a modern version shown below). This carries on with the theme of the black cube being a form of imprisonment. Interestingly the Greco-Roman goddess Agdistis was a hermaphrodite and her Phrygian counterpart was the goddess Cybele whose name is etymologically connected to the word ‘cube’. This may give a clue as to Baphomet’s identity. Both Agdistis and Baphomet are hermaphrodites and both are (tangentially) associated with cubes. Agdistis (Cybele) is assumed by some to be interchangeable with the goddess Isis.


Christopher Nolan’s Interstellar also features a cube that humans reside within. In this movie, the protagonist, Joseph Cooper, enters a worm-hole near Saturn and finds himself viewing Earth from a higher dimension within a tesseract (which is a 4-dimensional cube) and the inhabitants of Earth are residing within this 4-dimensional cube and unaware of Cooper’s existence in the higher dimension. Cooper eventually escapes the 4-dimensional cube (near Saturn) and is transported to a new environment, where reality is radically different to Earth. In this place he sees Monolith-TVs and within these TVs are the people on Earth that he left behind. In 2001: A Space Odyssey, the Monolith was originally designed as a cube. One could interpret this as Cooper escaping the Saturn cube and then viewing those on Earth still trapped within it.

Author Alex Rivera talks about the cube in a similar vein, saying: “Tracy Twyman makes a presentation of the universe as revealed by the spirits of Ouranos and Mithras (supposedly) she was in contact with; it is even more startling and specifically mentions the hypercube symbol [tesseract] associated with Saturn — a cube within a cube — as the real model of the universe. This somehow also weirdly affirms the infamous “Flat Earth” model as well. We are in the inner cube while the dead spirits are on the outer cube. Later in the essay, she compares the Tree of Life with the hypercube, theorizing that perhaps the universe or even “multiverse” (if there is such a thing) conforms to this specific shape. Tracy also emphasizes the Saturn myths and applies them to the idea of The Matrix”.

So, what do you think about this idea? Could the black Saturn cube be a prison that we reside within?

originally posted by: Nathan-D


So, what do you think about this idea? Could the black Saturn cube be a prison that we reside within?

Spiritually, yes.

Although, this world is at times "hell on earth".

There is a lot of meaning behind the cube and the many triangles within as well. Freemason's love these shapes and build according to pythagorean theorem.

The answer/truth is hidden in the math.

a reply to: Nathan-D

Sounds like "The Phantom Zone" fictional prison dimension appearing DC Comics.

David Icke drones on endlessly about how Saturn is of importance esoteric wise.

Was there not speculation that at one time, Saturn was a second Sun/Black Sun?

The likes of Himler, the Nazis and the Thule society we heavily into the above if memory serves.

a reply to: Nathan-D
Nice thread.

The 2d hexagon/3d cube of Saturn rotates counter-clockwise. The Kaba in Mecca is walked around counter-clockwise. Also the Tefillin worn by orthodox Jewish men and priests. The 6 pointed star's center is a hexagon. The cross when folded up becomes a cube... There are references to the cube and black cube everywhere, today and throughout history it seems.

One could ask, were the ancients aware of the rotating hexagon of Saturn? If so, how did they know? Or maybe it's all just coincidence.

Interesting topic, as you probably already know, in addition to a mysterious cube, Saturn is in possession of a somewhat largish hexagon.

Humans are trapped in the Xbox cube 🤔

Bill Gates, Microsoft

In crystallography, the cubic (or isometric) crystal system is a crystal system where the unit cell is in the shape of a cube. This is one of the most common and simplest shapes found in crystals and minerals.

en.m.wikipedia.org...

a reply to: Nathan-D

When they opened the tomb of high king K`inich Janaab` Pakal,
They found a jade sphere in his hand, and a jade cube from the other.

At the moment lockdown is feeling like the Phantom Zone prison dimension from Superman that Zod and his mates were imprisoned in.

a reply to: Nathan-D

The only prison is the one each individuals trap themselves in. No external force required, only subjectivity, perception, experience and emotions. The structure of one's mind revolves around an aggregation of these subjects mentionned above.

This structure is the prison, what I call personal paradigm, in which any consciousness falls in. One of the hardest aspect of this paradigm to overcome is the separation of subjective reality and objective reality, whereas the human mind is "programmed" so to speak, to take subjective and altered perception as bjective reality.

It is quite simpler to accept "absence of evidence is evidence of absence" and carry on than questioning any or every aspects of one's own perception.

a reply to: IgnorantGod

I suggest geography and social circumstance are just as much of a prison as an individual's perception.

People accept what they are given rather easily if they don't know nor have ever known any better.

a reply to: Nathan-D

Some strange things I've mentally noted:

-The New Jerusalem in the bible is a gigantic cube about 1/20th the size of the Earth
-The Jewish Tefillin is a black cube they wear on their head
-The Kaaba in Mecca - which all muslims pray towards daily - is a blackcube

-MM

a reply to: andy06shake

That falls in the personal paradigm (the "self" prison). It accounts any circumstances and life parameters. In fact, it is shape by them.

a reply to: IgnorantGod

Well, that's rather deep.

Have to wonder if some poor wee wean that lives 20km away from a clean water source and will never see a schoolroom nevermind tertiary education would make of the assessment?

Perspective being the female dog that she is.

You play the hand you are dealt with the tools you have at your disposal, but like i said geography and social circumstance generally rule the colour of the day, not without exception, after all there is always hope and chance.

a reply to: andy06shake

They may not have shoolroom, they nonetheless learn and experience. They may not make such assesments, they still have knowledge and skill that I may not have.

I think DNA has much more influence than any "external" circumstances such as social position or geolocation.

Guess thinking outside the box would be the way to escape 🤔

The bodies of the soul are symbolized in the structure of the Ark, which is a box or a chest: a square.  If we visualize a box, we see it is conjunction of four sides. Those four sides, four edges, four lines, relate to the cubic stone and to the four bodies below Tiphereth, which is the Causal Body.

Netzach: The Mental Body, related to thought

Hod: The Astral Body, related to emotion

Yesod: The Ethereal Body, related to vital energy

Malkuth: The Physical Body

gnosticteachings.org...

We have trapped ourselves in the lower half of the tree, the cube, cut off our energy and higher dimensional aspects. An unatural state deliberately exaberated by TPTB in order to mantain control.

a reply to: IgnorantGod

And the ones that die in childbirth or before they make there 5 birthday, what do they learn, what experience do they get to take with them to possible oblivion?

You could have the strongest, most perfect DNA on the planet, but if you don't have any clean water or food sources you still die in the dirt like any other animal.

My opinion social circumstance and geography supersede genetics, at least in this imperfect world, and for quite some time to come.

a reply to: andy06shake

It comes back to the question of mind/body relation, whether when a mind develop itself or when it "attach" itself (depending on belief of subject reflecting on it).

If the mind develops itself from the begining of the foetus development, then the mind would experience unconscious experience from the said development in mind/body to its death.

If it attaches itself at x state of development of the foetus, it would still experiences unconscious experience from this point until death.

Now, whether it has any "meaning" to have unconscious experience is up to the belief system of the mind reflecting on it. If it believes in afterlife, Samsara cycle or leans toward idealism (cosmic mind/living cosmos), it won't believes the situation to be meaningless or useless.

For a materialist mind (that believes matter comes before the mind), it would take the situation as meaningless (it may even question the idea of unconscious experience).

a reply to: Nathan-D

That was a very good thread. I liked the last part about 2001 a space odyssey. There are spiritual theories out there that we are trapped in a matrix of sorts with saturn being apart of the control system.

Death - reincarnation - all within this solar system that contains the souls to earth in a human 3 dimensional reality. Preventing us from many things. Remembering past lives, accessing higher dimensions, living in peace, and knowing the true nature of this reality.

Some think it's a design by archons to control and feed off us. Or perhaps something different.

Anyway just some ideas. I believe you're on to something OP.

a reply to: IgnorantGod

Well until we manage to be able to manipulate matter via only our minds, materialism seems to be what's on the shelves.

It comes down to the question "Are we greater than the sum of our parts" i suppose.

And my answer there would have to be, further study is most definitely required.

In this verse though, you still have to play the cards you are dealt, and changing them out can be somewhat problematic, genetics be darned.