Why are they doing all of this?

Lets look at India as an example here.
They CLOSED THEIR BORDERS to China immediately.
They have just 197 cases and 4 dead in a country of 1.4 BILLION people.

So, how is it that all these European countries kept their borders open? It's only NOW that the EU, for example, is closing it's borders but STILL allowing travel between it's member states, including Italy.

Why have they allowed borders to remain open so long?
Europe is now the hotbed of the virus. The virus has been ALLOWED to take hold.

I understand the emotional appeal of conspiracies; collect them, trade them with your friends!

It is still undetermined whether or not this virus has been altered/enhanced by humans; at this point we may never know. The salient fact is that nCoV taken has taken on a "life of its own" in that it's progressing via natural selection.

Conspiracies to one side, every couple of centuries humans have had a pandemic, potentially civilization-ending event. There are naturalistic explanations for all of those previous pandemics; from the black death to the Spanish flu of 1918-1919.

we have spent the last 30 years (the dawn of the computer age) removing features of our culture and economy which we thought we were redundancies. But what we thought was waste was actually a reserve. Redundancy is not only a bug--it's also a feature. We did away with warehouse is in favor of just in time inventory. We did away with marketplace and replaced it with logistics software. We did away with home business in food production, replacing them with monetized industrial production.

So this virus arrives at the point in human history when we have removed all the redundancies for our economic system. All of the do it yourself, homegrown, low tech answers were dropped in the name of efficiency.

This pandemic is actually a threat to the existing order, not a plot by them. I believe it is truly possible the China may collapse in the next couple of years. And this virus will have had a hand in it.

originally posted by: Graysen
I understand the emotional appeal of conspiracies; collect them, trade them with your friends!

It is still undetermined whether or not this virus has been altered/enhanced by humans; at this point we may never know. The salient fact is that nCoV taken has taken on a "life of its own" in that it's progressing via natural selection.

Conspiracies to one side, every couple of centuries humans have had a pandemic, potentially civilization-ending event. There are naturalistic explanations for all of those previous pandemics; from the black death to the Spanish flu of 1918-1919.

we have spent the last 30 years (the dawn of the computer age) removing features of our culture and economy which we thought we were redundancies. But what we thought was waste was actually a reserve. Redundancy is not only a bug--it's also a feature. We did away with warehouse is in favor of just in time inventory. We did away with marketplace and replaced it with logistics software. We did away with home business in food production, replacing them with monetized industrial production.

So this virus arrives at the point in human history when we have removed all the redundancies for our economic system. All of the do it yourself, homegrown, low tech answers were dropped in the name of efficiency.

This pandemic is actually a threat to the existing order, not a plot by them. I believe it is truly possible the China may collapse in the next couple of years. And this virus will have had a hand in it.

It's not a threat to globalist authoritarians. It's an opportunity - highly likely one they engineered themselves.
They'll be absolutely delighted when they achieve a world where 99.9% of people are no more than serfs living in tiny little box apartments, not going out unless to work - and serving obediently.

a reply to: jca2012

To thin the herd ...we need a pandemic or epidemic...even a world war once in awhile. It balances the populace.*

*Folks?...not necessarily my opinion
**Georgia Guidestones

a reply to: UKTruth

and it wasn't some Chinaman eating bat.

perh aps not eating bat...

Websites like Above Top Secret. Com are going to be wildly popular after this virus hoax is exposed in the United States.


If you are just visiting, get yourself a username now before they're all taken.

The US house is not coming back to vote on coronavirus aid packages passed by the Senate, who is in session as usual.

Instead, Nancy Pelosi and steny Hoyer are studying ways to vote remotely. They are in no hurry, my opinion, because Aid packages make the Trump Administration look even better.

www.nbcnews.com...

a reply to: carsforkids
What does being an atheist or believer in religion have to do with this? Even if I am a believer it still doesnt provide answers.

a reply to: GreenGunther

Never said anything about religion and you sound like a sheep. Your response made no sense at all not answered my question. Do you even know the truth?

I suppose the first question we have to ask, is who are "they." And then, what exactly are they doing? But from the position of not knowing specifics, i would predict they would be doing what everything else in the universe does, attempting to maintain manifestation of something, that something fundamentally being itself. To do that, the next thing anything does is get power. So to put simply i would guess wanting power to manifest their will, with one's sense of self being an integral part of that will.

So it would be to maintain themselves and anything they view as an extension or projection of themselves/their will.

originally posted by: jca2012
a reply to: carsforkids
What does being an atheist or believer in religion have to do with this? Even if I am a believer it still doesnt provide answers.

Did you think I didn't have an answer?

Believers are privy to far more understanding of what is going
on in the world we all live in. We have scripture to guide us
and give us comfort in the valley. We know what must come
because God has spoken it. So we walk with out fear towards
whatever end. Atheism provides nothing for the spirit.

You asked.

originally posted by: UKTruth

It's not a threat to globalist authoritarians. It's an opportunity - highly likely one they engineered themselves.
They'll be absolutely delighted when they achieve a world where 99.9% of people are no more than serfs living in tiny little box apartments, not going out unless to work - and serving obediently.

I think nCoV in a huge threat to globalism. Goods cannot move where people are afraid of an epidemic.

The WSJ and the rest of the financial press is freaking out, because pneumonia piggybacks on nCoV in the elderly. All our penicillin is made overseas. 80% of all antibiotic precursor compounds are made in china. And now china may not be able to fulfill agreements. So there's a giant hue and cry for strategic products to be made in the USA.

And close the borders!

None of that helps the globalist internationalist plan.

Biden was saying that trump is a racist because trump was calling it "the wuhan virus." China is afraid it will stoke nationalism in the US(!) and hatred of china.

Walmart is as internationalist as it gets in retail. They have a YUGE headache from all this.


EDIT TO ADD

does it strike anyone else as odd how careful Joe Biden is to tow the Chinese party line whenever he talks about nCoV? He was implying that it didn't originate in China, which is of course the official party line.

I wonder if it's because his son got paid millions by a Chinese firm for "consulting work."

a reply to: Graysen

That's not the play.
The play is to make people's lives so miserable and to point the finger.
It's elaborate voter manipulation
Once they gain power NONE of the rush to a more centralised global worldwill be stopped. It will accelerate.

a reply to: UKTruth

Foreign Affairs: Will the Coronavirus End Globalization

Foreign Policy: Is Coronavirus killing Globalization

NY TImes: Spread of the virus could hasten the breakup of globalization

World Economic Forum: Could coronavirus bring about the "waning of globalization."

Forbes: Globalization Crashes...

A lot of talk that doesn't fit your narrative....

a reply to: agenda51

It is starting to feel like we are being boxed in.

Big businesses contracting with the government, no longer under any governing control and free of any possible litigation.

Small businesses being shut down and will may be able to reopen, maybe.

No need for the IRS if the government is controlling your income, at their discretion.

I see a lot of room for more than conspiracy theories.

a reply to: scraedtosleep

I don't know who they are. People say illuminati, cultists, the rockefellers, etc... I honestly think nobody really knows anything they just make it all up or just come up with their own theories. No absolute proof at all.

a reply to: jca2012

If you wait until you have absolute proof of the house being on fire it will take a lot more effort to put out the fire and it will cost a lot more to repair the damage.

I could honestly say what has helped me to determine what I've been reading from this thread is the fact that maybe the Rockefellers are evil and want to own the world and own us and want all power but they would never be successful. But them as a whole conspiracy over everything I doubt it. I am starting to think there are different factions kind of like in Star Trek or Star Wars that are greedy and evil whole others want to help or impose their own wills or their own way of living upon one another.

originally posted by: carsforkids
You asked.

I really wish people were more honest in their language.

You don't believe people of religion have a better understanding. You believe people of YOUR religion have a better understanding.

You may be right, as a godless heathen I must have a lesser understanding so I hope you can forgive my ignorance.

a reply to: jca2012

Hey right back at ya