Are we being replaced by automation...

a reply to: TrustedTruth

Well it's an insane plan, and insane plans do have a habit of failing.

AI, even from the viewpoint of the so called elite, will have unknown consequences, with transhuman assimilation being the "best case scenario", worst case they just squash us like bugs.

Although I'd rather die than be Borged.

They literally do not know what is going to happen. What they do know is, it's going to be up to AI, not us, because it will be that much smarter than us we will no longer be in control.

Does this sound like a sane plan to you?

originally posted by: proximo

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

originally posted by: nOraKat
a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

If you suggesting Coronavirus scare was done for automation to take our place - not sure about that one..

But not to worry, its coming.

It's most certainly what I'm suggesting.

That's ridiculous. They don't need a virus to fire people and replace them with automation.

I don't think it is ridiculous, looks like classic problem reaction solution. With the right suggestion people will be demanding automation for their own safety.

a reply to: 0zzymand0s

Agreed, we are most certainly for the most part replaceable.

Oh, it's going to happen eventually. It's already happening. Here's what a typical small scale industrial manufacturing plant looks like.

You've got one to twenty lines of an assembly line so to speak.

You've got maybe one person at each step of the process getting paid just to stand there and make sure that no jams or errors or what not occur.

Then you have the technicians, mostly people who are electricians, mechanics, or both who get called(bothered) to leave their cozy maintenance shop to go turn something off and back on and then scratch their heads and bumble around because they don't want to admit they can't figure it out if turning it off and on again doesn't work.

Then, the automation tech, (who if he or she isn't already also the electrician and mechanic or IT person, or "mechatronic" whatever they want to call you isn't already out there trying to prevent the other electricians or mechanics from ripping the thing that isn't working apart to replace who knows what and downing more equipment.) goes out and tells everyone to scram so they can fix it.

Automation tech checks some values, asks the operator(person who is really just standing there and maybe "operates" one or two buttons) what they pushed. Operator denies touching or changing anything (because they don't want to get in trouble) Tech asks again in a different way. Finds out operator sped up their equipment or changed a zero or disabled something, or unplugged something. Automation tech fixes it.

Everything is good. Mechanics say it was the electricians fault it took so long. Electricians say it was the automation techs fault for taking so long. Automation tech gets pooed on by supervisors.

Control engineer(who probably as an unrelated engineering degree) wants nothing to do with it, but sit in his or her nice leather seat collecting a fat paycheck.

Automation isn't all AI and magical computers.

It's about removing unmotivated or incapable people out of the equation so that product can be created, packaged, shipped, and moved into your home faster, more efficiently, and in a higher quality.

No one should want to stand in the same spot, maybe pushing a button here and there, for an average of twelve hours a day. It's not healthy, and quite frankly unnecessary.

We have sensors of all sorts that can detect issues down to the microsecond and even predict when issues will arise. We don't need people standing there just to say "Uh, yup it's not working." They don't know why it's not working most of the time, and most of the time there is an issue it's usually because they thought they had a smart idea, and did something they weren't supposed to do.

originally posted by: Gothmog

Are we being replaced by automation...

Yes.
It started with the automobile industry.

And wasn’t Ford’s mass production inspired by the concentration camps?

And before that there were the Mills and work houses of the industrial revolution.

originally posted by: McGinty

originally posted by: Gothmog

Are we being replaced by automation...

Yes.
It started with the automobile industry.

And wasn’t Ford’s mass production inspired by the concentration camps?

And before that there were the Mills and work houses of the industrial revolution.

Who was speaking of Ford's mass production ?
The automobile manufacturing is mostly performed by robotics.
Nothing at all to do with old Henry.

a reply to: AutomateThis1

It's about removing unmotivated or incapable people out of the equation so that product can be created, packaged, shipped, and moved into your home faster, more efficiently, and in a higher quality. 

No one should want to stand in the same spot, maybe pushing a button here and there, for an average of twelve hours a day. It's not healthy, and quite frankly unnecessary

Point taken, there are certainly benefits to consider..

Not sure I missed this post earlier, glad I got to it eventually...