Navy - Top-secret UFO files could cause "grave damage" to U.S. national security if released

Tictacs have been debunked.

Not by you. Do you have any proof beyond vague theories? You need a -lot- more proof than what you are not providing before you can claim you have debunked this case. I mean.. you can claim whatever you want, but you are probably wrong. I firmly believe the pilot would not have spoken as he did, unless he was sure it was an actual object. I also don't think they could have projected swarms of anything. Random guessing about what technologies we have and how they would be tested is not actual debunking.

As a former Aerospace Engineer... I’m fairly confident this isn’t American. I’m not saying it’s from another world, but what I do know from my 15+ years with the DoD is they’d NEVER test anything (Black project) near existing/ongoing military operations.

Thank you for this verification! I said many times that it made no sense to me at all that they would risk an asset, secrecy, or the lives of pilots by testing something in that manner. There is a reason there are areas in Nevada and other places, that are secret, vast and empty. And so I've said it's either from another country or not from around these parts at all. And I find it hard to believe that another country would risk their asset (losing it, or the secrets about it) not to mention possible diplomatic problems that could arise from flying it that close to our country, or that close to our planes and ships.

originally posted by: Windigoone

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Windigoone

I don't think much is clear or an explanation would be forthcoming.

They could indeed have been holographic i suppose, projected from where or what through?

Tell you this you don't go from 27,000ft to 50ft almost instantaneously without being able to control inertia.

And as far as I'm aware there is currently no known material or technology that is able to eliminate or negate the effects of inertia that all objects with mass possess.

The physics are beyond our comprehension nevermind the science and technologies required to do so if it was made of anything other than light, and even then that's a stretch.

Thats a foolishly misleading statement and assumption. How much inertia does a flashlight beam experience? A laser beam? A hologram? NONE basically. So the physics fits. Sorry to disappoint you, its not a craft. Of course if you want to believe that physics is irrelevant and our military is stupid, you go right ahead.

Just to clarify...that photons emanating from a flashlight --- do exhibit thrust --- however infinitesimal. Which proves that photon propulsion is a viable, infinite alternative; compared to finite, carbon based fuel sources for rocket propulsion.

a reply to: butcherguy

Has anyone considered that maybe these are just holograms being projected from a submerged platform of some kind ? Like a force multiplier or confusion tactic ? Seems a lot easier than gravity defying UFO tech no ?

I also think Trump would have told us by now if there were aliens.

originally posted by: BruceZuckerberg
a reply to: butcherguy

Has anyone considered that maybe these are just holograms being projected from a submerged platform of some kind ? Like a force multiplier or confusion tactic ? Seems a lot easier than gravity defying UFO tech no ?
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The Hologram Theory was discussed earlier in the thread.

I also think Trump would have told us by now if there were aliens

Trump knows as much as we do.

a reply to: BruceZuckerberg

Lazers projected through water and then the atmosphere to created a sustained solid-looking holographic image that returns a radar signature?

Refraction is going to be a point of contention, doubly so, that would indeed be quite the feat of engineering.

You really think anyone in the know would be so stupid as to tell Trump anything other than the time of day?

a reply to: alldaylong

He knows...he has been briefed.

And a month later commissioned a space force. Not a coincidence

a reply to: andy06shake


You are smoking crack. No laser is going to project anything that remotely resembles the tic tac in the video

a reply to: Rancidmilk2go

I did not imagine one ever would, hence the reason it was phrased as a question. LoL

As to the crack pipe, i put that down long, long ago.

a reply to: Rancidmilk2go

And a month later commissioned a space force.

The Tic-Tac incident occurred in 2004.

a reply to: andy06shake

He's the friggin' President- he knows. Do you think "they" can hide from the Trumpster ? I don't think so.

This is all hogwash and maybe ..maybe just advanced drone or holographic testing.

a reply to: andy06shake

Holographic projection technology seems waaaaay more plausible than the crazy alien theory.

1 ) Aliens wouldn't give 2 ****s about us.
2) There are no Aliens.
3) See above.

Occam's Razor. In the entire history of mankind most grandiose conspiracy theories have turned out to be bunk and
aliens are just the latest.

If it's anything, it's just the military testing something and Trump DEFINITELY would know.

Bruce is not just smoking crack, he is smoking BAD crack. Because EVERY thing in the post above me is WRONG.

a reply to: spiritualarchitect

I know, I want to believe, unfortunately, my common sense won't let me.
Aliens wouldn't care about our bug-like species. People are making money off this
BS just like everything else.
Look at who's telling us there are aliens... ATS ? lol.. a drug addled rock star, Harry Reid... yes that
Harry Reid...and some other government spooks.

Your BS Radar needs fixing if you can't see through this.

a reply to: alldaylong


Im talk about when trump was briefed in 2017 aswell as several senators

a reply to: BruceZuckerberg

Plenty of levels of secrecy above the president just down to the fact the 8 years is all they get, just how bureaucracy and compartmentalization works especially where military and corporations are concerned.

And i dont see your military-industrial complex if indeed responsible for such technology, which i dought, ever telling someone like Trump much, as they are as well broadcasting there capabilities on Twitter.

If it's holographic, where is it coming from/lasers emanating?

a reply to: BruceZuckerberg

Kind of a big bold statement given the grand scheme of the space-time in which we find ourselves, that being the assumption that there are no aliens.

Don't you imagine we should understand what constitutes life in its entirety before coming away with such an assessment?

Occam's Razor eh?

Well, humanity exists, apply Occam's Razor to your there are no aliens assumption, what does logic suggest?

Of course, its something, filmed and recorded by the top of the line military-grade optics and radar.

Trump knows about as much as the rest of us, which is apparently not much, or not being said.

originally posted by: Rancidmilk2go
a reply to: alldaylong


Im talk about when trump was briefed in 2017 aswell as several senators

A " Space Force " would be completely useless against the technology the Tic-Tac displayed.

Not only useless but a complete waste of money.

a reply to: andy06shake

The objects (or projections) move like your mouse cursor moves on a screen. Instantly from one place to another.
Not possible or even close to possible in current technology.

We don't know what current hologram tech might be.

Either they are hologram/projections/ something like that or we're in a matrix and someone
is moving the mouse cursor.

a reply to: andy06shake

The idea that some "black agency" is hiding spacecraft and aliens from Members of Congress and the President
is completely laughable. Seriously...think about it...it's ridiculous.
Of course various agencies probably have information about "sightings', adversarial military equipment etc that
they don't feel the need to brief the Government on. Likely because it's really not that important.

But to suggest that they're hiding (or even capable of hiding) anti-gravity tech and alien bodies is childish at best.

W

originally posted by: Rancidmilk2go
a reply to: andy06shake


You are smoking crack. No laser is going to project anything that remotely resembles the tic tac in the video

Are you kidding we have halo grams you can actually feel. So yes it would be terribly easy to make.