we are all going to die

I'm thinking the most captivating text is Revelation. The "figuring it out" process is on the way.
At the same time I doubt it's possible for anybody to precisely describe the future. Including the godlike alien/s.
There was that push at one time, that if you'd understand enough, it would click and the future will be visible. The next grail, philosopher's stone, whatever. The treasure of knowledge.
Which brings me back to Asimov: it would all be a possibility and the further in the future you want to calculate uncertainty increases.
So how likely is it some guy 96CE was spot on, especially since he couldn't have grasped the things we do and how it all looks, if he had seen it?

I'm thinking some sort of olympics as test for where we all stand is the most likely. Takeshi's Castle is sending the four grunts to stress us, see how we'd really act if the shtf.
The jar is just for tough cookies, the others get eaten.
And that's again biology. There's no endless growth, populations collapse, ask the rabbits. Survival of the bestests adaptist.
And little bunnies thrive until the Island is full and bamm collapse again.

The only thing that makes sense is to write manuals and formulary and collect every DNA we can get our hands on. Wait for after the storm, prepare a meaningful starter kit for the little ones and their children, because if "sin" is a universal crime we're all #ed. Every adult would be up for grabs for "demons", just the children would make sense, right?
Even if the rapture is code for mass abductions, with spaceflight for some time, children would make the most sense.
They would adapt better and quicker to the new beings feeding them and pampering them and educating them in their interest.
I'd say older than 12 and you're screwed, like us.

But what's up with the beast and what did he mean with horns? Who knows...

My whole point is nobody can predict everything even if you can analyse down to the smallest scale. Because the only story that is going on is billions of autobiographies which stay chaotic.
But god sees and hears everything, so I assume besides the overwhelming amount of intellectual spam he has to sift through he would always and everywhere first hand updates. Godlike alien/s watch you poop.
Because that will be how your worth will be weighed, in your mind.
That's why "it" puts us through stressful experiences, even if you look at it as act of evolution at some point the gardener needs to take out the weed.
I believe we are not the crown of the universe. Not the top dog in our hood even.
But I also believe the objective is obvious: can you survive? And stay a tough cookie?
So yes personally I am one of those who thinks the majority of mankind has to die. Not because I want it but because it's logical.
Humans 2.0 are our destiny. That's something we can't fight. That's the end of us.
But I can see that if travelling back in time would be possible the objective would be to find the best and brightest as foundation. ( Asimov)

All of that of course if we assume there's no such thing as chance, just possibilities with determination.
Which seems like an important discussion to be had too.
I said it I believe it's true, life develops towards freedom. It's not accidents.

Will there be cake?

There had better be cake...

a reply to: madmac5150

Cheese Cream with a hint of lemon.

a reply to: Peeple

"Just the children would make sense" you reckon - wrong.

Children may be innocent by every stretch of the imagination but by no means are they sinless, quite the opposite, children are selfish, materialistic, and violent when they don't get what they want, unknowingly yes perhaps but certainly children posses all the qualities of what adults strive to not be.

Children will not be saved but rather prime candidates for the demons you speak of. Uncomfortably true and sad to the extreme but it is a reality - can't see any demons hungry for souls showing compassion there, demons don't posses compassion I'd imagine. Especially poignant is your statement that "that is how you'll be worth will be weighed, in your mind".

Noone is going to like it but it is a reality.

If scripture is to be believed then there is no mention of any exceptions for children unfortunately but maybe someone can be true to common practice and re write scripture again and translate it a half dozen more times so it can emerge with concessions for children written in so everyone can feel better about it.

"Figure it out" it makes NO sense children under 12 are exempt.

a reply to: CthruU

The point still is they're the only ones having a chance to be around when the dust settles.
Killing off billions of people doesn't happen over night.
Rapture and demons is after all just speculation.

originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: CthruU

The point still is they're the only ones having a chance to be around when the dust settles.
Killing off billions of people doesn't happen over night.
Rapture and demons is after all just speculation.

Why? Why are they the only ones having a chance?

I think killing of billions is more than possible over night, by many methods both natural or supernatural.

And yes rapture and demons is speculation i agree, but it was your speculation in regards to your OP, only those pure of spirit with no sin will be spared either by god or the aliens you speak of as they would be the only ones with worthy dna to rebuild appropriately.

So i guess yes your right - "we're all going to die", but ill add no matter your age, only those with superior spirit can possibly survive.

How many have said superior spirit, none i reckon. So far.

a reply to: Peeple
Rapture means 'lifted away'.

The illusion that you are a thing separate to the whole will lift and life will just be life....not your life.

You will never die....only the illusion that there is a you will.

Catchy title.

I like !!!

S&F

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a reply to: CthruU
The bible says 'one must become as a little child to enter the kingdom'.
Little children are sinless.....it is only when concepts of separateness happen (little children have no words) that sin (misidentification) occurs.

a reply to: Peeple

Uhhh The Bible says initially (in the Great Tribulation?) 1/3 of the global population will die.

Later another 1/3 of what's left will die.

IIRC, mathematically, that works out to about 50%.

There's some indication that particularly the evildoers will die. Not only but mostly, I think.

but just one thing I read once.....debunks all the chaotic possibilities.....Jesus has a yoke and a burden for us believers, the yoke is easy and the burden, light.

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time 2:14 - "Catastrophism" is the theory that the Earth has been affected in the past by sudden, short-lived, violent events, possibly worldwide in scope. This was in contrast to uniformitarianism , in which slow incremental changes, such as erosion, created all the Earth's geological features.

Mini-Nova cycles due this century (~2046)

we are all going to die

That is a 100% probability

What if no thing was ever born?

This vid speaks of the unborn:

That is no fair if the kids will be fine. Just because it would happen now instead of decades earlier when was a kid. That is just unlucky timing and will I be screwed because of bad timing? God should understand that. We are just kids trying to do our best, so better then others but we are all scared kids trying to do the best we can with what we were given biologically and how we were raised...

Unless it is our fate to be screwed... All because of timing.

I dont understand why everyone wants to be a wolf, instead of being a sheep. All the while, the wolf to enter the flock, it must be above all, be a sheep.

Simply put predictions and revelations have no possible way of foretelling the future. Even if there is some psychic connection on foretelling events there are multitudes of factors and counter psychics to negate the prediction.

That being said my prediction is when world food stocks deplete and men have no choice but to kill to feed their families governments will begin to kill to stay in power. We have witnessed circumstances this day and time that the value of life is diminished and even the most heroic or despicable of humans only receive the spotlight long enough to fill an attention slot.

Truth is even the case of the plane being shot down the other day its already on the verge of being forgotten and the people with it. We as a human race will eradicate or reduce our populations by natural selection and Men who think their power matters will die as well.

Wonder why all the mass shootings are there long enough to garnish the audiences morbid fantasies and briefly forgotten when the next event occurs, yet the bell tower shooter is remembered from many years ago. Its because life doesn't hold the value it once held and in the end, the dead don't matter.

All of this is BS to me but believe what you like.

a reply to: DarkestConspiracyMoon

Aww. But at least it made you care enough to swear.

a reply to: watchandwait410

It's not like the judgment ever stops. It's more meant about the event of revealing the truth.
People wouldn't take it well if they realise something strange and scary that's not "daddy" is calling the shots.
You have lesser chances of adaption than someone who's born into it.
Not entirely impossible of course, but you'd always remember a time where you had privacy, when you were so good even God knew who you are and loved you.
When it's really just a different kind of being, of intelligence without mass maybe, an interdimensional alien with godlike capabilities, if any of those words even mean anything. But it might hate us. Or we're in the way. It's maybe a really bad thing to attract its attention.
What if without the biology aspects, consciousness becomes logic without emotions?

Wouldn't that make it by default a psychopath?