A new progressive idea that families must be abolished to create social and economic equality

I found this article and it is fascinating. www.intellectualtakeout.org...< br />
I am disturbed by it's seemingly logical propositions.

The family is one of the main causes of morally arbitrary inequality. Moreover, it is not an inequality which makes everyone better off. … [T]he effects of the family are so profound that its mere existence may severely impede the access of individuals to equal life chances.

The idea seems to be that because families are all different that just living in a family (ie. nuclear family) makes the foundation of the lives of children inherently unequal, with some families being "better" than "others". Simply being in a "good" nurturing family gives people an unfair advantage in life. So to create equality, all children must be raised identically and ideally away from parents.

Salon denounced as “nuclear family privilege.” British philosopher Adam Swift and his partner Harry Brighouse explored the inequality of human emotions and decided to explore “what it was we wanted to allow parents to do for their children.” They found that children whose parents read them bedtime storieshad an even greater advantage in life than those educated in private schools. While they graciously decided to “allow parents” to read stories to their children, private education was out. And they wanted parents to feel guilty as they crouched by their children’s nightlight. “I don’t think parents reading their children bedtime stories should constantly have in their minds the way that they are unfairly disadvantaging other people’s children, but I think they should have that thought occasionally,” Swift said.

Writers in Salon magazine along with some prominent researchers decided that parents who read to their children at night were conferring an unfair advantage on their children. They suggested that parents rethink their motives for reading to their children. I find it to be frightening, that progressives are now making being a good parent equal to being an elitist. That parents to be "woke" must consider that they are creating an unfair advantage for their children over children raised in homes where they are not read to.

Just the fact that the progressives are germinating the idea of a new group that must be cancelled due to unfairness is being named (nuclear family privilege) leads me to shudder as to how far progressives plan to go with their intrusion into even the bedrooms of little children and their parents reading a nighttime story.

noted philosopher Melissa Harris-Perry, formerly of MSNBC, insisted in an alarming promo that “we have to break through our kind of private idea that kids belong to their parents or kids belong to their families, and recognize that kids belong to their communities.”

Once children belong to the community and not the parents, people will stop having children. The logical extension of this thinking is that children must be removed from their mother at birth and raised equally in a corporate nursery with no further contact with the parents. OR even more horrifying - that parents must be monitored to ensure they raise their children in precisely the state prescribed way or have the children removed and put in an environment where they will be raised according to strict government standards of equality.

YES, this is the logical next step. If that were true when I had children, I would not have had one. With abortion a female right, no female in her right mind would carry a child to term just to give it to the state.

Does this type of thinking frighten you, or do you think it is the only way to end "nuclear family privilege"?

Are you ok with breeding farms because women won't want to have children that are ripped from their arms in the name of equality and justice?

Are you ok with the ultimate end of this type of progressive equality for all - human extinction.

a reply to: The2Billies

Just more communist bullcrap disguised as "intellectual" pigeon droppings.

Communists hate families.

Communists think the state should rear the children.

Screw 'em.

I just hope they get stung by jelly fish so I can piss all over them (to save their lives of course)

a reply to: The2Billies

So just because their progressive nanny state already destroyed the family for far too many children, most notably children of minority mothers, they must now deal the death blow to the rest of us instead of seeking to fix what they broke?

Screw it. My son is one of the best readers in his school because we darn well read to him pretty much every night ... because we effing care! We want him to succeed. Taking that away from a child won't fix what's wrong with the rest; it will just make sure ours can't succeed too.

a reply to: ketsuko

They don't want kids who succeed.

Successful kids become successful adults. Leaders.

They want followers, those quick to obey the dictates of their ideological leaders.

a reply to: The2Billies

This isn't a new idea.

Hegel proposed it.

Marx wrote about it.

It is one of the foundations of communism... dissolving the family unit and replacing it with the State.

Progressivism is merely a different way of approaching the Communist State.

Owning everything by proxy (via regulation) instead of outright owning it.

a reply to: DBCowboy

A baby monitor in every room in every home to ensure equality, fairness for all!

A subtle way of making home surveillance and learned compliance to the government from birth.

Sneaky.

Better yet, take children from parents, deny them love, make them all equal in mentally unhealthy corporate government run nursery's that turn children into surfs of the state.

But horrifying that progressives are buying into the touchy feely "woke" idea of fairness and equality for all
and totally ignoring the end game or unintended consequences. It seems that many progressive/liberals totally
ignore the inevitable unintended consequences. We saw this clearly with Obamacare and "you can keep your Dr." and "costs will go down".
We also see this with the homeless in San Francisco, Los Angeles, Seattle where their "woke" laws have created
streets full of urine/feces and a huge rise in mid-evil diseases.

a reply to: The2Billies


Calling things, "fair" and using "equality" is like pounding kittens in the face with a hammer and calling it, "petting".


Freedom is equal opportunity.

Oppression is equal outcome.

But both sentences used the word, "equal" so both sentences must be good and true, right?

Writers in Salon magazine along with some prominent researchers decided that parents who read to their children at night were conferring an unfair advantage on their children. They suggested that parents rethink their motives for reading to their children. I find it to be frightening, that progressives are now making being a good parent equal to being an elitist, basically. That parents are considering the unfair advantage they are giving their children over children raised in homes where they are not read to. Just the fact that the beginning of a new group that must be cancelled due to unfairness is being named (nuclear family privilege) leads me to shudder as to how far progressives plan to go with their intrusion into even the bedrooms of little children and their parents reading a nighttime story.

So, they found one simple thing that can improve the lives of future generations, so they decide the best course of action is to abolish it. Progressives are the most backward people if you ever really listen to them

a reply to: The2Billies

Oh my God that first quote is a doozy. First of all, if someone can explain "morally arbitrary inequality" and how that ties into family that'd be great.... And I read the damn article.
Also, if the mere existence of family may severely impede the access of individuals to equal life chances, wouldn't the inverse also be true?

Jesus... These people... My head...

I'm guessing these people had parents who didn't read to them when they were kids and now they resent the rest of us who did. But instead of turning that anger toward their own parents (probably because they know their parents won't validate their feelings) they would rather make the rest of humanity as miserable as they are.

a reply to: DanDanDat

It seems to me that a lot progressivism really boils down down to that.

FIGHT IT TO YOUR LAST BREATH It's pure evil bull crap

a reply to: The2Billies

I can't understand how these idiots haven't bred out yet. Is there any way we can help? Mandatory sterilizations for any man who calls himself a feminist and any woman with blue or green hair?

I'm sorry but I'm not done with this one yet. Let's be 100% honest about this article. Making good decisions in life equals privilege.

"Just because I chose to do heroin and amphetamines instead of building a career doesn't make you a better candidate for employment. It's just privilege!"

"Just because I decided to waste my money instead of budget according to my means doesn't make me less wealthy or deserving of wealth!"

"Just because you decided to invest the time to instill values in your child, and your child invested the time in living up to those values, doesn't mean that child should succeed!"

"Burn it down! Burn it all down! We're making a more equal world!"

Absolutely asinine.

a reply to: sine.nomine

But they aren't looking at personal responsibility. It's all beyond our control ... it's all because we're women or black or gay or our parents didn't read to us ... It has nothing to do with what we do or don't choose to do.

We all deserve the very same outcomes, and if they don't happen it's someone else's fault.

a reply to: sine.nomine

Even if they were somehow successful they'd be extinct in a generation or two. Intellectual inequality is how the world iterates. If everyone is the same, no one can fix the problem they never saw coming, or solve a riddle they can't all understand. Big rock inbound in 10 years? Too bad giving it a gender won't stop it from cracking a continent in two.

Does this all mean that to be fair we should euthanize all live born children so as not to discriminate against still born children? Can we be fair and post facto this fairness to all these S/T progressives? Can we start now?

In all seriousness isn't a parents singular job to encourage and enable their kids to become better than they are? Isn't that what's suppose to be happening? Or am I being offensively human?

a reply to: 0zzymand0s

Mediocrity would be the norm.

How can you have innovation, invention, creativity if these aspects are determined to be "privileged"?

It's the death knell of any culture.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: sine.nomine

But they aren't looking at personal responsibility. It's all beyond our control ... it's all because we're women or black or gay or our parents didn't read to us ... It has nothing to do with what we do or don't choose to do.

We all deserve the very same outcomes, and if they don't happen it's someone else's fault.

Well thank God my choices still matter while they can so I can keep these crazy bastards away from office as long as possible.

You're right though... I really don't get it... And that makes me "backwoods" I guess. I'm genuinely curious at the thought process behind this all. Are they that disconnected? Seriously. Help me understand. Is it a city thing?

a reply to: Guyfriday

I had a sit-down with my child the other day and explained that he should not make the same mistakes I made and should learn from them so he CAN be better.