IR light and winter

I live in upstate NY and I have noticed on different nights my outside cameras at night time are illuminated like it were day time but is pitch black outsaide.

the only thing i can think of is the cloud cover may be bouncing IR light around.

the moon isnt super strong and im not by any lights so it is just strange seeing the very stark difference. looking with my eyes its black as ink out my window.

so what does ATS say?


normal


tonight



pics are taken very close as far as time of night and the normal pic is from a week or so ago

a reply to: penroc3

It is light being reflected from the Moon, clouds and amplified by the snow on the ground.

originally posted by: penroc3
I live in upstate NY and I have noticed on different nights my outside cameras at night time are illuminated like it were day time but is pitch black outsaide.

the only thing i can think of is the cloud cover may be bouncing IR light around.

So there's more cloud cover when the brighter image was taken? The clouds trap infrared radiation emitted from the ground, and re-emit some of it back toward the ground, making the cloudy infrared image look brighter.

The Greenhouse Effect is Like a Cloudy Night

At night clouds trap infrared radiation emitted from the ground, similar to greenhouse gases, and re-emit some of the absorbed radiation back to the ground.
More nighttime cloud cover means more trapped heat, and warmer temperatures near the ground, just as more CO2 in the atmosphere means more trapped heat, and warmer temperatures.
Because clouds are big and thick, their radiation-trapping effect is felt immediately, within a single night.
Because CO2 is diffuse, its effect is felt slowly, over many decades.
Increasing the concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere is like increasing the cloud cover at night: both warm the Earth by trapping infrared radiation.

a reply to: Arbitrageur

At night clouds trap infrared radiation emitted from the ground, similar to greenhouse gases, and re-emit some of the absorbed radiation back to the ground.
More nighttime cloud cover means more trapped heat, and warmer temperatures near the ground, just as more CO2 in the atmosphere means more trapped heat, and warmer temperatures.
Because clouds are big and thick, their radiation-trapping effect is felt immediately, within a single night.
Because CO2 is diffuse, its effect is felt slowly, over many decades.
Increasing the concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere is like increasing the cloud cover at night: both warm the Earth by trapping infrared radiation.

Lol.

That uses the IR effect to make believe that CO2 is some mythical heavyweight.

Using a correct interpretation in science to support a mythical CO2 problem.

typical crap for the uneducated to swallow.

P

a reply to: Arbitrageur

ill have to wait until a warm cloudy spring night to put it to the test.


thought it was interesting its such a different amount of light.

a reply to: Xcathdra
It won't have been the moon last night.
The moon is still only a few days into New Moon phase and would have set quite early after Sun set.

a reply to: penroc3

**Sorry, sick as a dog here, but I wanted to reply**

Snow plays all sorts of games with IR light and IR lasers. Not too surprised to see your pictures.

Thanks for the post.

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

i figured as much, the snow basically acting like a reflector seemed to make the most sense.

i just noticed it a few times and thought i would ask.

i kind of like the top one, too bad there is a watermark and a light on in the picture

a reply to: penroc3

The altitude of the clouds matter. Nights when the clouds are lower might light up the sky more than nights when the clouds are higher.

I live less than 5 miles from a shopping district and some nights the lights from the businesses reflect off the clouds into my back yard enough to see relatively clearly, while other nights the clouds are only somewhat lit above only those businesses, and that light not making it back to me. On those nights my back yard is dark.

a reply to: penroc3

Now this is probably prohibitively expensive for a domestic user but have a look at these, full colour night vision.
www.x20.org...
I wonder if this is how the Grey's see in the dark or if it's more like your images.

a reply to: LABTECH767

I've seen those, Sony has something very very similar and both are super cool.

im not 100% convinced that the color isn't just some software trick mixed with a good low light camera. It would be interesting to see the after shoot processing from these cameras.

color as im sure you know is just a gradient of the EM band that we can see, so i would imagine creatures terrestrial or not that can naturally see into the IR and any other spectrum will just see it as part of their normal colored vision(to them).

clearly the colored light and IR, UV are not interchangeable but i would bet that having a multi spectral overlay on top of normal human vision would look very drab because its not our natural vision but the mantis shrimp more than likely sees many many more 'colors' as it is natural vision to them(and just look at them).

if the grays are these genetic masters you would think they would just incorporate genes that would allow them to naturally see into these spectrum, and the black eyes are just super advanced filters that can change on the fly(super advanced meta materials).

Imagine if they go to abduct someone and the person tries to blind them with a flashlight but the lenses almost instantly block only the visible light coming out or just turn it wayyy down. Heck we are messing with augmented reality NOW and one of the biggest complaints is that it doesn't fill your whole vision and the glasses obstruct your view.

imagine just laying those black 'lenses' on your eyes and everything just looks normal until you hit the light and all of a sudden you have night vision, or if its foggy out and you are looking for someone you can use the green night vision with a FLIR overlay and then back to normal.

i would buy that just for the coolness of them let alone all the other things you could do with them(entertainment or otherwise).

mix them with some sort of non invasive brain link and you have synthetic telepathy...

a reply to: penroc3

tonight just for comparison