Even after four decades there are those moments when

I'm chatting with a friend of some 15+ years about this and that and the conversation turns to the "wyrd". They have been goin through some strange happening that seem to have all arrived together in one block and it's been making them think about such things. In the course of this conversation they quite blithely mention

"Oh well, my aunt, who wasn't given to flights of fancy at all, had a "silent aircraft" land next to their house , she was pregnant at the time, used to tell the tale at most family gatherings until she died of cancer a few years back".

As one might imagine dear reader, I was a tad on the "WOT??? WOT????WOT????" side, when it came to my reply. "You've known me for 15 years and you've just thought to mention this to me?"

Anyway, from what I've been able to extract, the following occurred. Some time in the 70s, my friend is in their early 30s, to them, "The 70s" had dinosaurs wandering around the UK, in Surrey the UK a "silent aircraft" (Their relative's words) landed in the field next their house whilst they were pregnant. Said "silent aircraft" also caused all the lights and electricity in their house to die and then the power was restored after said "silent aircraft" shot straight up into the sky and vanished.

So, totally frustrating yes however, it does illustrate perfectly that. You never know what your friends have seen themselves or been told by their relatives happened to them and if the opportunity arises , don't be a snarky twit, listen and take mental notes, then ask them to recollect as much as they can of the details. Furthermore, if anyone has any other stories specifically from the Surrey area of the during the 1970s then please let me know.

Blimey! The infamous FireMoon returns!

I don't think you have posted on the UFO/Aliens forum since I joined fifteen months ago, but I have read your old posts that didn't take any prisoners in your ambitious quest to seek the Truth, especially regarding Rendlesham. I doubt prime sceptic Ian Ridpath has ever been scrutinized so deeply as when you two locked horns, so you deserve credit for sheer ambition and gall.

Sadly Rendlesham has lost momentum since then, bogged down in madness, delusion, and dodgy, ever-increasing embellishments, including an unhealthy dose of soft porn (if you're thinking "Wahhhhh Da F...?", try catching up if you haven't already, if you can stomach it).

Re your OP, I live in Surrey but have not experienced any UFOs myself, yet I understand your reaction of ""WOT??? WOT????WOT????" to your mate's revelation. The same happened when my wife casually revealed her own UFO experience from many years ago (in Essex, not Surrey) that was pretty spectacular - it's described in my 'Intro thread' from last year (accessible via my profile so as not to bore everyone with the story again, which I sometimes refer to over time.)

Anyway, welcome back. I was once mistaken by someone as being a 'sock' of yours when I initially joined, but sadly my scepticism has ramped up considerably since then when I was a starry-eyed casual Believer of sorts. Oh, well... but there are still plenty of juicy unexplained classic cases on the books that deserve continued analysis.

I'm of the belief that most people have a story to tell, and the UFO one is quite common, at least it seems in my experience.

Its not surprising that your friend held back that story for years, as wild as such an encounter may be they often get consigned to the back of the mind. Seems counterintuitive, but at least for me the strangest experiences seem less real as time passes and my mind tries everything it can to normalize and rationalize it, and I often forget I had them as strange as they were.

Brother FireMoon so very nice to see you old friend!

I'm the one that thought CB might be you returned under another name...funny that he posted here first lol!!

Hope you stick around.

originally posted by: The GUT

I'm the one that thought CB might be you returned under another name...funny that he posted here first lol!!

I never thought it'd happen, but yes, now all three of us are together in the same thread - which DOES indeed feel funny!


I think these days FireMoon and myself are ironically more likely to disagree about certain cases (such as the RFI), but yes, I hope he sticks around, too. The UFO/Aliens forum definitely needs fresh or renewed blood to spark things up again in a TTSA/'Tic Tac'-obsessed field that has become a bit stale and repetitive.

Thank you both. Truth be told I've been working on the "Unhappening" , "The beginning of time " what we call "The Rupture". I can promise it's going to totally silly, utterly prurient and a complete waste of time.

In other news, I've discovered a lot more about my mentor "Rex Dutta" that is like ...wow really? oh right.

I also have an absolute blaster of a "thought experiment" that links two infamous "conspiracies", one of them Rendlesham and seems to further the Vallee cause of "weirdstuff". it by no means denigrates any of what people saw and had happen to them however, it's different take on why .


I'm coming round to thinking that, Rendlesham was a British black op that went horribly pear shaped and i have my new UFO bugbear namely, "it was the height of the cold war" if i hear that chuffin' phrase one more time. It has been so overused it literally has lost all its meaning.

BTW, if you haven't seen the film " A Dark Song" please do so, it's the only occult film I have ever seen that is actually about the occult. I have a couple of friends with a passing interest in the subject who have both told me since watching it "I can't get that film out of my head, it's had a profound effect on me"

Chat soon and remember "Tis an ill wind that blows no minds"

As one might imagine dear reader, I was a tad on the "WOT??? WOT????WOT????" side, when it came to my reply. "You've known me for 15 years and you've just thought to mention this to me?"

This resonates!

I had exactly the same experience. My father (93) told me once he was taken. By who I asked. By them he replied. Where? Above. then he said 'nice world could see it all (in dutch)'. Then I asked again and he got very angry. Didn't dare to ask ever again.

Makes me wonder, how many people will never share their experiences. Ridicule and disbelieve everywhere but also echo chambers that accept everything. Once told my little experience sowhat? Another nocturnal light. Terminology and spacecake...

And the community moves on to the next anecdote , an endless tug of war. Believe or disbelieve skeptics and wanna be scientists in their freshman years.

50 years or more so what DO we know?

UFO's still out there and what do we know. Same terminology , alien UFO , nordics ,grays. It has become folklore. Tell a story and become part of that folklore , that's all folks. Humanity as a whole unable to move further. Maybe unworthy to understand. Maybe those that don't talk are at the better end.

Greetings (Earthlings)

a reply to: FireMoon
Brilliant got the feeling before reading your post. Will check out the movie. Today.

My mind keeps going back to the idea that we really are in some kind of simulation, and that a lot of the "paranormal" stuff we encounter -- everything from UFOs, to time slips, to Bigfoot, to Men in Black, deja vu, odd coincidences, and on and on -- are a result of bits of code that have gotten misplaced or corrupted so we can't easily incorporate them into our regular normal simulation. I've watched enough game play (I don't have time to actually play) to see where some of this stuff is directly analogous to common glitches you see in computer games -- characters blinking in and out, "falling off the map," disruptive character interactions, etc.

But if that's really what it is, the explanation seems too complex on one hand, and too easy on another. Still... I wonder. And sometimes at the end of the day, I come back to the idea that we're just not smart enough to understand what's going on. Like a cat trying to understand taxes.

Reminds me of one time when I was a kid - already then obsessed with ufos. Me and my cousin had been at the roof of our cabin looking for them all evening. When we got in, the grown ups started discussing the paranormal a bit, but as a laughing matter.

It was then my aunt told about one strange incident where she had been on a ship (Hurtigruten), a ferry cruise outside the coast of Norway. She was alone on deck in the middle of the night to have cig and a flying stealth looking ship about the size of a van hovered close to the vessel completely silent only a few meters above the seawater. She told she could remember details of how it looked, it was rounded and black. She got an eerie feeling and then this machine just glided out of sight as if it had checked the boat out.

This recollection sparked some more additional recollections of less spectacular sightings from the others (and even some anger, my uncle said something about this being impossible, you probably had to much to drink, etc.)

But anyway, yes this is also my experience and opinion. Mention the subject during any gathering of people and at least one person has a story.

I once met a commercial airline pilot in a bar and I mentioned my interest. He laughed the matter off in the company of the others, but as we stepped outside to smoke, he told me a couple of fascinating to him unexplainable sightings from the cockpit, also seen on radar.