Pelosi compromised Al-Baghdadi?

a reply to: Goedhardt

Not really. Iraq and SDF have given full accounts of the operation and intelligence leading up to it, plus Baghdadi's relatives who gave him up, Muhammad Ali Sajid al-Zobaie, has been interviewed by the press on video (Al-Arabiya).

Muhammad Ali Sajid al-Zobaie was captured by Iraqi forces in Septermber alongside one of Baghdadi's wives and gave up the rough co-ordinates of where Baghdadi was living and how he was moving and led the SDF and Iraqi intel to his compound in Jebel al-Druze in the begining of September.

The SDF and CIA have been on a joint operation to capture him since 15th May and managed to place a source in his compound who stole Baghdadi's underwear which was used to test for his DNA pre-raid and confirmed it was Baghdadi with the same source providing the US with the compound co-ordinates, directing helicopters and taking part in the raid from the ground.

According to both SDF and Iraqi forces the raid was meant to happen earlier but was delayed and almost abandoned completely following US withdrawal as Baghdadi was about to flee (back) to Turkey via a safe house in Jeralbus.

originally posted by: MarioOnTheFly
a reply to: Arnie123

I'm obviously missing something.

Why would this message needed to be conveyed to Baghdadi ? I mean...he would have found out over the internet anyway

What are you missing???

This is a Conspiracy site and this is a Conspiracy thread, we are entertaining a Conspiracy, because why not?

If most are found to be untrue, what's the harm? Aren't you at all curious as to perhaps there may be some element of truth to this?

There is no evidence to suggest Pelosis and Schiff went to meet Al BagDaddyYa or whatever his name is.

Back to the Conspiracy,

Our self proclaimed Resident Soclialist, User: DFnj2015, believes that the NSA has our nets completely censored and thus any keywords can be singled out and highlighted anywhere in the network realtime giving IP and geotagging the position.
Maybe all those stories of our internet and comms all being monitored are true?
Maybe they couldn't take the chance of a phone call considering he is the #1 terrorist in the world, what, they have him on Speeddial?

Hey Aunty Pelosis! I accidently butt dialed this guy and he is screaming allu akbar in my ear!!!

a reply to: bastion

Lol, that's crazy, they stole his Underwear? I guess the brown streaks gave him away.

originally posted by: Goedhardt

Trump needed to nail down Al-baghdadi’s location. @POTUS knew withdrawing troops from Syria would spark an uproar and isis would be emboldened. Because deep state ties have been cut with Syria and isis, someone had to get a message to Al-baghdadi in person.

2. But, who could go there while missiles and bombs were being lobbed across international borders by multiple countries? So…Trump manages to get both sides to agree to a cease fire. If someone is going to go meet with Al-baghdadi, they would have to go during the cease fire.

3. Completely unannounced, Pelosi and Schiff, both deep state traitors, both ClA, suddenly head to the middle EAST. Do you understand the significance of this timing? If there was no troop pullout and if a cease fire had not been arranged, Pelosi and Schiff would not have gone.

Why is this written like Trump drew up the plan and executed the mission himself? Does the DoD do nothing? Do we not have strategists and think tanks? What about military Generals who’ve spent their entire lives honing their strategies and employment of forces for moments like this?

Instead we’ve got Donald Trump doing all the work. Were his boots on the ground and kickin down doors?

I mean, kudos to him for authorizing the mission but let’s not bypass all the other people who helped make it happen and did the majority of the work.

a reply to: Arnie123

It makes no sense that such high political actors would personally get involved, and in a given scenario too. I'm sure there are ways of getting the message...but in the end...I was more wondering, what would be the point of doing so ?

a reply to: Goedhardt
First, remember here that what we're watching is a power struggle of the highest order in DC and indeed around the world. This theory makes more sense than one might think on first blush - the Dems have a vested interest in stirring up trouble for the President, and apparently will stop at nothing to accomplish this. The "urgent" and unannounced nature of the trip to Jordan (where they met with and were rebuffed by King Abdullah) combined with the fact that the Obama administration was close with certain parties in the region leads one to believe that this could be true. A reminder here that representatives of the Muslim Brotherhood were welcomed into the Obama WH - a reminder also that before ascending to the highest positions of ISIS and al-Qaeda, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, Osama bin Laden, and Ayman al-Zawahiri belonged to a common ideological precursor, that same Muslim Brotherhood.
Given these facts, its not such a stretch that this theory could have some merit - which would also mean that the Trump WH orchestrated this, and could mean that there will be some incriminating information exposing the contacts between the DNC/Pelosi/Obama operatives that was seized in the raid. This could explain why Pelosi has all of a sudden had a change of heart and called for a quick impeachment vote.

originally posted by: Puppylove
If this was found to be true, what would the end results mean for our government and the impeachment inquiry as well?

For one thing it would confirm that Pelosi and Schiff are treasonous liars.
Aiding and abetting the enemy.

a reply to: Goedhardt

Its no conspiracy. Why did she go to Italy around the same time but right before Barr and company went to italy? Trump is running these losers into the ground.

a similar theory implicating Trump would in on CNN, WaPo, NYTimes, etc etc.

hard to see Pelosi &tc affiliated with al-Baghdadi, but she had to have gone over there for some reason

if not a direct meeting, then with someone's representative

wouldn't put it past the democrats to work with terrorists to bring down Trump. Politics is EVERYTHING to them.

The reply’s to this are a really good read! ATS has great minds indeed!

The change of Pelosi regarding the non-vote impeachment is a great point!
I’m going to watch the news with this in the back of my mind, the coming weeks. See what actually has merit.

IF she did go meet with big Al, I'm sure it was just a diplomatic meeting. She would never do anything to harm America.

a reply to: MarioOnTheFly

I agree that it makes no sense for high ranking officials to fly to the middle east just to deliver a message that would have been most likely redundant, but then again it doesn't make any sense for Nancy Pelosi to fly to the middle east to begin with considering that middle eastern leaders (the majority of them anyway) do not consider women their equals and wouldn't take her seriously for any reason she had for flying there- and I'm fairly certain she knows that.

a reply to: Goedhardt

And the web site is also about denying ignorance. Let's look into your "conspiracy theory " a little more. Exactly what information could Pelosi and company provide to ISIS that could not be obtained from any number of newspapers that have and continue to report on the withdrawal ?

Where exactly would they meet ? Baghdadi had a number of million dollar bounties on his head, so it not likely he could have just taken the next bus to downtown to meet with his BFF's Nancy and Schift. The movers and shakers in DC rarely do much without there being a benefit for them, what benefits Pelosi and Schift from this alleged meeting with ISIS ?

As much as I dislike Nancy and her ilk, I seriously doubt she would become a traitor to her country just so she could embarrass Trump. I believe that no more than I can believe Trump intentionally conspired with Russians to "steal" the election. Nope, sorry, this is not a conspiracy. Just a shrill opinion with no basis in fact

originally posted by: DJMSN
a reply to: Goedhardt

And the web site is also about denying ignorance. Let's look into your "conspiracy theory " a little more. Exactly what information could Pelosi and company provide to ISIS that could not be obtained from any number of newspapers that have and continue to report on the withdrawal ?

Where exactly would they meet ? Baghdadi had a number of million dollar bounties on his head, so it not likely he could have just taken the next bus to downtown to meet with his BFF's Nancy and Schift. The movers and shakers in DC rarely do much without there being a benefit for them, what benefits Pelosi and Schift from this alleged meeting with ISIS ?

As much as I dislike Nancy and her ilk, I seriously doubt she would become a traitor to her country just so she could embarrass Trump. I believe that no more than I can believe Trump intentionally conspired with Russians to "steal" the election. Nope, sorry, this is not a conspiracy. Just a shrill opinion with no basis in fact

- To start: it is not my theory, I just posted it.

- Pelosi is a part of the Gang of 8, they have the highest access to intelligence. You tell me what they could share with Al Baghdadi...

- I don’t think they actually would meet, at best some messenger of sorts. I mentioned this before in one of my reply’s.

- The recent WP article (about the ‘austere scholar’) shows: many people hate Trump more then they hate the likes of Isis. So there is a motive and what they can get out of this. Just to hurt Trump. Any means necessary.

I agree that I do not think she would do this, just as I stated in my OP.

As an engaged American populace, it is up to us to question where are highest politicals officers are going.

Do we take the word of liberal news outlets on the reports of their trip from equally disturbed leftist persons?

Or so we Ask? Question? Determine a pattern, motive and intent?

The highest political officers went on a field trip to the Middle East a week later Al BagDaddy is dead.

Trump left Pelosis and Schiff out the loop, Mission Aacomplished.

a reply to: Chadwickus
She didn't necessarily need to go to Syria. Maybe someone from Syria met her in Turkey who was then tailed back?

Lies lies lies. a reply to: MarioOnTheFly