Is Trump Destroying the Republic?

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: thedigirati
a reply to: Xtrozero

well, that is refreshing

"Warren admits to being a sorry candidate"!!

should be the top headline on Drudge😲😂🤣🤷‍♀️

I'm thinking all Trump needs to do is say he is sorry if he hurt anyone's feelings and all is good.

If President Trump said he was sorry the MSM headline would be:

"President Trump admits he is a sorry President"

I don't think he would ever let his ego have that particular headline.

even though the left screams it daily...😁🕵️‍♀️👀🐱‍👤👋👌

Trump has been monumentally important for the task he was "intended" to do ... sow discord domestically in the US and around the world, diminish the alleged moral high-ground that the US has historically wielded around the world, erode the rule-of-law and trash Constitutional limits on Executive power, serve as a focus point for a Cult of Personality that denies reality, science and accepted facts.

He has highlighted the weakest points of the American Constitutional form of government. He has helped to bring a spotlight onto some of the least desirable characteristics of the American cultural underbelly.

All in all, he's done a great job at serving as a needed agent of Chaos, in my opinion.

originally posted by: Gryphon66
Trump has been monumentally important for the task he was "intended" to do ... sow discord domestically in the US and around the world, diminish the alleged moral high-ground that the US has historically wielded around the world, erode the rule-of-law and trash Constitutional limits on Executive power, serve as a focus point for a Cult of Personality that denies reality, science and accepted facts.

He has highlighted the weakest points of the American Constitutional form of government. He has helped to bring a spotlight onto some of the least desirable characteristics of the American cultural underbelly.

All in all, he's done a great job at serving as a needed agent of Chaos, in my opinion.

This deserves repeating, so someone actually gets it. I am truly scared by his "base," and what that base thinks being American means. If that doesn't frighten anyone else with any sense, we are truly well and screwed.
tetra

a reply to: tetra50

Don't be too scared of Trump followers. In reality, they're Americans and have the right to be wrong, LOL.

I jest. Mostly.

You have to remember that they're just as scared of "the other side." Scared, angry, anxious about, disgusted by, etc.

When I was a kid, this was called "playing both ends against the middle."

Most Americans are not Trump supporters or haters. Most of us just want to take care of our families and live our lives.

originally posted by: thedigirati

originally posted by: Wayfarer
a reply to: thedigirati

Uh, I don't know about the named individuals you referenced, so perhaps you can ask them yourself?

Regarding the MAGA hat touching: Is that woman in your profile you? I like the thought if so that you (being a MAGA hat wearer) would wanna cuddle.

the picture in my avatar is married to a 6'4" Marine, she laughed at your offer (my wife,it's in my profile but no one reads anymore)

you said the poe-ple being hurt by Trump

who are they?

Pelosi and Co are the ones fighting Trump, I presumed you were hurt as well.

So you admit you have not been Hurt by Trump

so why not accept Trump as Your president??

well?

Oh man you confused the heck out of me (you made a reply to this post in another thread). I understand now.

As for my personal hurt: I've lost several big bid/contracts in China that I was slated to get this year because of the trade issues. My numbers are like 1/3 down from what I was projecting with the China projects so I'm super salty at that especially.

originally posted by: Esneider
That's what they said just before the 2018 Midterm election. Trump declared last year's election was a referendum on his administration, and brother was it after the voters ejected from office 41 pro-Trump members of congress.

Ummm..

You do know that as far as mid-term election results go, the 2018 mid-terms were below average as far as expected democrat gains go, right?

It was not a referendum, it was a below average regular mid-term.

Also, 39 Rs weren't even running for re-election, and everyone knows incumbents are far more likely to get re-elected.

Most encouraging, young voters 18-34 years voted for Democratic candidates by an astonishing 35% margin- the greatest in history-and the youth are the future.

Yes, the socialist/communist measures to brainwash our youth by taking control of the school curriculum is working, but not nearly as well as they would like. This is one reason among many why the federal Dept of Education should be abolished, and control of education returned to States and local communities.

a reply to: JAGStorm

This is the deep state retired general. Nothing new...

originally posted by: spacemanjupiter
I hate politics and feel that both dems and pubs are just 2 sides of the same coin.

Partially true. The RINOs are definitely the other side of the Dem coin.

However, there is a growing number of Rs that actually believe in and promote the values this nation was founded in (members of the Freedom Caucus, and others).

Trump is cleaning up the Republican party and remaking it into a party that truly pursues the values our nation was founded on/in.

The Dems are simply self-destructing because they cannot get over the fact that their attempt to steal the 2016 election failed, and only barely (thank God).

Corruption rampant through all sides, dems, pubs, libs.

Again, I mostly agree, but not everyone is.

Even so, it has never been more clear that someone, possibly simply due to ignorance, is dividing and conquering. I think it's partly ignorance and partly self preservation though, and it's 100% business.

You couldn't be more wrong. I don't agree with everything Trump does, and sometimes his tweets make me wince, but he is 100% genuine in his love for this country (don't believe me? watch videos of some of his interviews in the last 30 years - like Ron Paul, he has been extremely consistent in his views), and is doing his best to keep all of his campaign promises, unlike every other President in the last 50 years.

originally posted by: redmage
a reply to: Sheye
I see you haven't been paying much attention. Those top military men that "help him make decisions" have all rebuked Trump's decision to abandon our allies in Syria.

Of course most of them have, they are war-mongers whose job depends on and who actually enjoy the endless wars. But I'm quite sure not all of them feel that way. Of course, neither one of us can prove our assertions, so we'll just have to agree to disagree.

Trump has repeatedly and openly declared that he believes he is smarter and more informed than all of our top military men and intelligence officials serving our country.

I tend to agree with him. His instincts are serving him well so far at least...

In short, no one really advises him, and he doesn't read his daily briefings. He simply seeks to surround himself with "yes men" who will nod when he makes any suggestion.

So... you know what he does on a daily basis? Riiiiiight...

Anyone who challenges his suggestions, or provides him facts that disagree with his beliefs, are subject to twitter tirades, and/or being replaced.

The fact that he even appointed John Bolton as his NSA, much less tolerated him for so long, proves you wrong. He knew exactly who Bolton was and what his views were.

But it is the President's prerogative to appoint people who will further his agenda, no?

Personally, I think he should have recalled ALL of our Ambassadors, and appointed new ones that are true Patriots, within his first month or two in office.

Same for ALL of the IGs in the different agencies, especially the DOJ, FBI, CIA and the NSA.

a reply to: Byrd

Sorry to read about your disability.
I guess you have something in common with the POTUS.
I have operated two companies: one in
which i was the CEO and at least 45 agents reported directly back to me.
So yes, been there, done that, even had a T-shirt that said so.
btw, when a mom or dad serve in the military, the whole family serves.
IMHO, thank you.

I didn't vote for Trump in 2016.

He was way too much of a weasel.

Turns out, it takes a weasel to catch weasels.

Trump 2020!

Drain the swamp!

Arrest the subverters and liars. Try the subverters and liar before a judge and jury. Hang the subverters and liars in the public square that are found to be guilty.

originally posted by: GenerationGap
Arrest the subverters and liars. Try the subverters and liar before a judge and jury. Hang the subverters and liars in the public square that are found to be guilty.

Trump would have a hard time winning in 2020 if you plan to hang him in a public square.

originally posted by: Byrd

originally posted by: JAGStorm
abcnews.go.com...

It sure seems some are starting to think so.

“The America that they believed in was under attack, not from without, but from within,” Adm. William H. McRaven, who led the U.S. Special Operations Command before retiring

Are we going to see a wave of conservatives, a wave of military, a wave of independents leave camp Trump?
Many in the military have revered General Mattis, even idolized, even worshiped him. He left but now there is a war of words between the General and Trump. How will this sway the military as a whole? My guess, not in Trumps favor.

Possibly. America is a democratic republic.

Trump is a businessman. He's trying to run the country as if he's its CEO. But CEOs aren't democratic leaders of a business -- they're at best an oligarchy and at worst a plutarchy.

The generals don't like him and the intelligence community sure doesn't like him. The troops, who love shows of power, seem to be very much in his corner but the commanders have really soured on him according to what I've read.

That's because the officers aren't doing the bleeding.

originally posted by: Esneider
That's what they said just before the 2018 Midterm election. Trump declared last year's election was a referendum on his administration, and brother was it after the voters ejected from office 41 pro-Trump members of congress. Most encouraging, young voters 18-34 years voted for Democratic candidates by an astonishing 35% margin- the greatest in history-and the youth are the future. a reply to: HalWesten

Indeed they are.

But they will also grow wiser as they grow older.

originally posted by: spacemanjupiter
a reply to: JAGStorm

A lot of people believe the president is smart enough to destroy the 'deep state', let alone actually know what the 'deep state' is. Trump is different. Trump is hip.

The reality is that Trump is causing a lot of problems for both dems and pubs because he is ignorant. I'm 44 and I don't remember a time where this country has been so divided. This division is clearly because of one person in office.

I hate politics and feel that both dems and pubs are just 2 sides of the same coin. Corruption rampant through all sides, dems, pubs, libs.. one seems to hide it better than the other. Politics, it's all garbage and I can't believe people spend any significant amount of time even talking about it.

Even so, it has never been more clear that someone, possibly simply due to ignorance, is dividing and conquering. I think it's partly ignorance and partly self preservation though, and it's 100% business.

The division is because people used to just watch the news and vote for whoever the reporters told them to.

Now we've got twitter, facebook, .... ATS...

Different people getting their news from different outlets, instead of just 4 or 5 major networks (which were really all the same network, with 4 or 5 different faces.)




This always happens when technology changes. Some people choose to stay behind, while others choose to go forward.

In this case, whoever is choosing Twitter and Facebook, ..(and ATS ... etc) is the future.

Whoever actually listens to the networks is getting left behind.

It won't always be Trump using the alternative outlets. Some democrats out there will eventually figure it out, and put out twitter/facebook candidates of their own.

originally posted by: Sheye
He should be nominated for the Nobel Peace prize in my opinion.

OMG, that would cause a Chernobyl effect throughout the entire Left wing spectrum..

It would be one of the most hilarious liberal reactions to date..!!