If Trumps actually impeached.

originally posted by: conspiracy nut
If Trump impeached the level of reeeee from the right will hit catastrophic levels. Trumpsters will lose their collective minds at a pace that hasnt been seen since colonel kurtz in apocalypse now. They will take to the streets and make antifafa look like a boy scout troop. On the other hand the majority of the country and world will party like it's 1999.

As an outsider I would love to hear the ree of the right but the ree from the left has been far too loud for me to hear anything else but "winning" from the right.

Quite a lot of fear mongering going on lately so I don't know if Trump is winning or losing or if this is more poll tactics that was such a great success the last time.

You have to be brain dead to believe any of the narratives.

Hopefully that party will be able to fill a stadium when the democrat leaders go to talk. Trumps stadiums bursting at the seems show a different story to what the media tells me.

The more the media hates Trump the more I will love him. Screw those liars.

a reply to: CthruU

Wow, that really amounted to something to, didn't it?

He'll be gone, replaced by the next moron and life in these United States will go on, whether it's sooner or later.

a reply to: Klassified

My favorite part was Iran is going to invade the US. Lulz.

I really think there might be a market for the church of Trump. Tax free money baby. Also, in these dire times, tithing is now 20%, swamp and all that.

originally posted by: CthruU

originally posted by: SparkyMcBurny
a reply to: CthruU

I'm something of a lurker. I dont post too often. But this situation calls for such. I may even create my own, which I have maybe done once?

Anyway, here is my take; let's look at what we know, the facts that we should be able to agree with.. even if agreement is by degree, and not total.

1) Trump was born into wealth, and his upbringing demonstrated that there were rich folks (elite), those who wanted to join the rich elites (upper & upper middle classes), commoners (middle & working classes) who serve the elites through labor of various sorts, and of course, the poor & destitute, who are often looking to receive "help" at the expense of everyone else in the form of social services, paid for via tax revenue at the federal, state, and local levels.

Are we good so far?

2) As a businessman, he has a demonstrable history of success, as well as a history "playing rough" having been guided by Ray Cohn. These tactics allowed DJT to often sidestep inconvenient regulations and guidance mostly at local levels, which helped him build something of an elite empire. He loves WINNING.

Are we still good? I would think so.

3) DJT is neither a student of history, nor is he a constitutional scholar. He is NOW a totally new variety of politician of sorts because he HAS to be. But he probably hates this fact, as WINNING is much harder to do in the political arena, even when using his tried and true "playing rough" tactics. Using such, he was able to win the Presidency, but once in office...not so, or as much. Entrenched interests, federal regulations/oversight, and socially expected presidential conduct ALL ... for good, ill or indifferent... mitigate and/or stand in the way of his tactics and efforts.

Still with me?

4) DJT is a a proverbial "creature of habit"; a man who does what he wants, when he wants. Period. Paradoxically, he is also stunningly unpredictable, due in part to the mentoring of Cohn.

Hmm? I believe that the above points are indeed points that we can all agree with. Sure there is far more that one could say, but THESE points are, to pardon a pun unimpeachable.

I believe that given who he is, how he was brought up, how he was mentored/how he achieved successes and his penchant for embracing habits, often in unpredictable ways has led us to this moment in history. Trump STILL IS WHAT HE IS. The above are points (which by themselves) are some of the characteristics that IMO inarguably define him. This is true regardless of what can be said about his opponents, critics and the potential forces behind them; of which there are many.

Lacking true and habitual knowledge of the regulations, mores and folkways of the political world AND counting on his tried and true tactics may well have made him step on a constitutional landmine. At the time of the Ukrainian calls, having just won the Russia inquiry (Mueller's testimony) battle, may have emboldened him; leading him to, in newly found, but also in constitutional ignorance...set the land mine himself. I doubt you could TRICK him into doing so, or to manipulate him.

In the end. he may have, like Icarus flown too close to sun. The wax in Trump's wings having been formed by his nature, his life/business experience and his use of tried and true tactics.

It is fair to CONSIDER that he may have just screwed up.

Hi, thanks for the response - glad to hear from you.

Very fair breakdown with diplomatic articulation from you that any reasonable person cannot dismiss.

However clintons impeachment was overturned and he was outed for outright multiple deception let alone going against god as well (in god we trust) committing adultery, highly offensive to god fearing citizens- so i guess trump would be entitled to the same extension of forgiveness if proven as you stated would he not?

We will see soon enough.

With your sort of articulation and diplomacy i really wish you would get more involved more often.

Cheers

Thanks for the kudos, sir. This process is going to wind up JUST LIKE Clinton's. He will be impeached in the house, but not convicted in the Senate. But there is one caveat to consider.

Mitch McConnell is an insider, and you have to know that he isnt fond of DJT as a person or President. Further, I'd bet a case of good beer that he dislikes having to answer questions about Trump. The Senate voted unanimously on a non binding resolution to procure the statement of the whistleblower. Unanimously. This means Mitch OKd it.

Should there be something considered to be untoward, illegal, or detrimental to the republic in either the testimony or the report, it possibly could go badly for Trump.

I think Mitch would see it as a good excuse to be rid of what has been a quantifiable headache for him. You KNOW hed rather have Pence in office.

Just a thought.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
a reply to: CthruU

Wow, that really amounted to something to, didn't it?

He'll be gone, replaced by the next moron and life in these United States will go on, whether it's sooner or later.

Doesn't matter what it amounted to - it's the thought that counts and its implications.

And yes he "will be gone and replaced" but that won't be till 2024.

Until then.

originally posted by: CthruU
Doesn't matter what it amounted to - it's the thought that counts and its implications.

It's cute that you're using your feelz to determine the matter, not facts.

And yes he "will be gone and replaced" but that won't be till 2024.

Maybe, maybe not, either way he gets gone and life goes on, contrary to your pornographic Original Post's fappery.

originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: CthruU

Only problem is as the president it's actually his job to - you guessed it - drain the swamp.

Has that started yet? I don't want to miss it.

Someone let me know when it's going down.

Well if only he could get on with it instead of constantly defending baloney you might see what you seek.

originally posted by: CthruU
Well if only he could get on with it instead of constantly defending baloney you might see what you seek.

You saying this weak ass pussy can only do one thing at a time?

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: CthruU

Clinton was impeached.
Nixon quit before Congress had a chance.

Nixon, those were the"good old days" when politicians cared more for their reputations than their lust for power (at least publicly). With Watergate, everybody forgot what he did to the gold standard, Taft-Hartley, DEA/EPA, Vietnam... BUT great benefits because the situation stripped away the media's respect for public office and opened up this whole era of investigative journalism, blah blah

If you failed to listen at the Church Hearings in '75 like most of the "normies", you wouldn't know what to expect like the dreaded tin hat has decried for years. "Nobody" knew 50 years ago that the media would turn into a monster (except maybe Steppenwolf) and inundate us with MKUltra programming on the TV and propaganda on the news. It happens.

As for Slick Willy the Boy Governor made Presidente, there were lots of things he could have been impeached for, ut based on what we know today of his conduct since his time in office - it's synchronicity that he got impeached for (lying about) having sex with Miss Lewinsky (with pud stained dress as evidence). My guess is too many folks disappeared or died under less than normal circumsttances for anyone to willfully pursue other allegations.

ganjoa

originally posted by: CthruU

originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: CthruU

Only problem is as the president it's actually his job to - you guessed it - drain the swamp.

Has that started yet? I don't want to miss it.

Someone let me know when it's going down.

Well if only he could get on with it instead of constantly defending baloney you might see what you seek.

Like his first two years with the house and senate?

I have a feeling history will remember Trump as the Obama of the right. Someone with perfect timing and an acute ability to pander to a large enough base to project a facade.

Almost all of our root problems still exist.

originally posted by: SparkyMcBurny
It is fair to CONSIDER that he may have just screwed up.

Bigly!

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: CthruU
Doesn't matter what it amounted to - it's the thought that counts and its implications.

It's cute that you're using your feelz to determine the matter, not facts.

And yes he "will be gone and replaced" but that won't be till 2024.

Maybe, maybe not, either way he gets gone and life goes on, contrary to your pornographic Original Post's fappery.

Its not my feelings - there was proclamations of love? ????? Was there not.
It was nice to hear peaceful rhetoric for a change - these are "the facts".

But anyway the only fappery here is your attitude towards indifferance and your ability to articulate that constructively.

Sounds familiar if not typical.

a reply to: CthruU

Even crazier to think about is that one sole party will be responsible for all of that destruction, and all for the simple fact that they couldn't deal with the fact that they lost. Now, imagine how far beyond childish that is. All because they lost.

originally posted by: CthruU
Its not my feelings...

When you say 'it's the thought that counts' it 100% NOT about facts and all about feelz. It's cool, you're allowed to be sentimental about your man crush.

But anyway the only fappery here is your attitude towards indifferance and your ability to articulate that constructively.

I'm not the one getting masturbatory about Trump, if anything I'd be sardonic and/or cynical about the situation.

originally posted by: dfnj2015
a reply to: CthruU

Contrary to the right wingers delusions every leftist I know prefers Trump over Pence. At least with Trump we have a social liberal. Besides, people from New Jersey are just more to the left. A Republican from New Jersey is further to the left than a Democrat from Texas.

I think all this effort for impeachment is being orchestrated by the Pence camp.

If that was true, top DNC leaders and every other leftist in America wouldn't be pushing for it. Think before you post, please.

a reply to: CthruU

But anyway the only fappery here is your attitude towards indifferance and your ability to articulate that constructively.

I think Augustus is just being healthily skeptical, as we all should be.

No elected official is entitled to praise, and the only ones who deserve it are those who earned it. I'm not afraid to say things like Trump took swift and aggressive action to clean up the VA, but we still have some work to do. Our local one still has a sober reminder of that when you call. The first message is instructions for those with suicidal thoughts.

And while his foreign policy isn't as aggressive as the two before him, we still have a long way to go to reconcile the sh## show's we still direct. What I've seen is the status quo getting a new brand ambassador, one I voted for with the explicit promise to myself that I will be critical of him.

Trump isn't horrible, but he's not great either. America needs more than lip service.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: CthruU

Clinton was impeached.
Nixon quit before Congress had a chance.

Neither of those are relative to why democrats want to impeach Trump. Clinton lied under oath and we all know about Nixon. Trump has yet to be charged with anything and they want to impeach him anyways because they don't like him. You know this and you're an intelligent poster who doesn't show up just to troll so why try to relate Nixon and Clinton to Trump?

a reply to: CthruU

People who think like this are like an abused wife, brainwashed and bullied into thinking the sky will fall if the abuser leaves or the abused leaves.

The world will keep spinning. Life will move on. When you have a near plutocracy in the US it doesnt matter if the head is cut off. A new one will grow right back, but the brains arent in the head, it's in the belly of the beast.
If he is kicked out of office. It will be a rude awakening for those that voted for him. That democracy is basically meaningless in the US.

a reply to: CthruU

Seems like you're giving potus too much credit. The world will end if trump is impeached? I think not...

If our entire system crashes and burns because one potus is impeached then we have a really weak system.

Not sure what your prediction is based on but it seems very silly.

a reply to: blueman12

Not sure what your prediction is based on but it seems very silly.

I read OP, it looks to be based off of some scripture from the book of Cheeto Christ.