Straight Pride Parade

Let me sum this up:

Straight Pride = hate speech and bigotry
Gay Pride = empowerment and acceptance

White Pride = racism and bigotry
Black Pride = empowerment and acceptance

Christian religion = oppression and bigotry
Non-Christian religion = peaceful worship and acceptance

If you are white, straight, or christian is doesn't matter what you do, how you behave, or what you think. You are automatically wrong and there is nothing you can say or do about it.

a reply to: Vroomfondel

Big big sigh... why give the haters so much power? Why give life and energy to their message of hate and intolerance? Why give your time and energy to perpetuating the hate? Why play THEIR game???

Why be part of the problem instead of part of the solution?

This isn't the Victim Olympics... there's no glory or prize to be won by being the most oppressed.

a reply to: Boadicea

I see you are clearly in the "ignore it and it will go away" group.

I point out the inequity and that makes me part of the problem, playing in the victim olympics.

Do you say the same of the minorities, non-straight, and non-christians? Or is it ok when they point out the inequity they see?

Allowing one group to celebrate their heritage/belief/choice while denying that right to another is racism. But drawing attention to it is wrong?

SMH

originally posted by: Vroomfondel
a reply to: Boadicea

I see you are clearly in the "ignore it and it will go away" group.

Oh dear lord. The best defense is a good offense? Sometimes... but not this time.

My written record speaks for itself. I have written numerous threads and posts regarding the serious issues involving the LGBTQ, and especially regarding the Trans Activists and Trans Agenda being forced upon us. And I did so with clear, specific legitimate examples of over-reach in their demands.

I sure as hell don't whine and cry like a five-year-old. Those pushing the agenda just love the voluntary foot soldiers like you that escalate and perpetuate the hate and fighting. They abhor folks like me that actually address the legitimate issues involved.

I point out the inequity and that makes me part of the problem, playing in the victim olympics.

You didn't point out "inequity." You propped up and fueled the hate.

Do you say the same of the minorities, non-straight, and non-christians? Or is it ok when they point out the inequity they see?

I consistently and persistently stand up for the smallest minority: The individual. I don't live in an echo chamber... or the left/right paradigm... or any other self-imposed bubble with whatever label someone wants to slap on it.

Allowing one group to celebrate their heritage/belief/choice while denying that right to another is racism. But drawing attention to it is wrong?

Well, you obviously didn't read the OP... too much trouble to actually educate and inform yourself before you start throwing around stupid accusations? Deny ignorance.

Here's a clue: "Racism" refers exclusively to race, which is genetic and inherent. It has nothing to do with heritage, beliefs and choices.

SMH

Indeed.

a reply to: Boadicea

Oh dear Lord indeed. I guess sarcasm and backhanded insults are the rule of the day.

My written record speaks for itself. I have written numerous threads and posts regarding the serious issues involving the LGBTQ, and especially regarding the Trans Activists and Trans Agenda being forced upon us. And I did so with clear, specific legitimate examples of over-reach in their demands.

Good for you. The arrogance of assuming that I or anyone else should be aware of that is appalling. I was addressing this thread, nothing more.

I sure as hell don't whine and cry like a five-year-old.

I must assume you mean in one of those other threads because you are past the legal whine limit on this one.

You didn't point out "inequity." You propped up and fueled the hate.

Please enlighten me as to how you point something out without calling attention to it.

I consistently and persistently stand up for the smallest minority: The individual. I don't live in an echo chamber... or the left/right paradigm... or any other self-imposed bubble with whatever label someone wants to slap on it.

I am sure you don't believe you are. But I don't have to slap any labels on it. You seem to have a surplus echoing around in there already. You stand up for the individual. Yet you attack me for offering my own input as an individual. I know, I know, you disagree with me so I don't get the same rights as other individuals.

Well, you obviously didn't read the OP... too much trouble to actually educate and inform yourself before you start throwing around stupid accusations? Deny ignorance. Here's a clue: "Racism" refers exclusively to race, which is genetic and inherent. It has nothing to do with heritage, beliefs and choices.

From the OP:

Critics say the 'Straight Pride' organizers are white-supremacists whose intent is to bait members of the LGBT community in Boston. 'The organizers of the Straight Pride Parade have long and well-documented ties to white supremacists and anti-immigrant movements,' a protester said to CBS News. 'In general, they are fascists who believe that they are the only acceptable type of being.'

But I am the one who didn't bother to read the OP or educate myself.

I will give you credit for one thing though - you are an astoundingly ignorant hypocrite. If that was your goal, its time to celebrate.

originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: InTheLight

And for the left, it only exists if you think exactly like they do.

So basically, none of those people who were *gasp* not straight and white that marched that you noticed would be allowed in any leftist event.

So, are you saying this parade leans politically to the right?

As though there is something “wrong” with leaning politically to the right?!?!?!?

There’s not.

a reply to: Vroomfondel

People like you scare me because you can't get past yourself. Your initial post:

Let me sum this up:

Straight Pride = hate speech and bigotry
Gay Pride = empowerment and acceptance
White Pride = racism and bigotry
Black Pride = empowerment and acceptance
Christian religion = oppression and bigotry
Non-Christian religion = peaceful worship and acceptance

If you are white, straight, or christian is doesn't matter what you do, how you behave, or what you think. You are automatically wrong and there is nothing you can say or do about it.

Tell me one thing practical or productive about posting this nonsense? How is it anything more or less than a pity party?

Other people's opinions of you are none of your business. People can think whatever they want about you, me or the lamppost. They can keep it to themselves and/or they can scream it from the rooftops. Doesn't matter. What matters is when/if that person has power over you and your rights. What matters is the legislative and regulatory efforts to subjugate your rights to someone else under the guise of their "rights." What matters is protecting our rights -- EVERYONE's RIGHTS -- and calling out those who would/do violate our rights:

• Sitting congress critters are fundraising for violent protesters.
  
• A prosecutor is fighting a judge for letting charges stand.
  
• A defense attorney has spent a night in jail for contempt of court... the same court. .
  
• The House of Representatives has already passed The Equality Act.
  
• At least a couple hundred major international corporations have joined with the Human Rights Campaign to sponsor The Equality Act.
  
• There will be a Democratic Townhall Debate on LGBTQ issues in a few weeks where the presidential candidates will discuss their support for these issues.
  
• There are two cases before the Supreme Court regarding LGBT "rights."
  
• Courts are removing parental rights in order to provide "gender-affirming" treatment to their kids with known and unknown adverse effects, including permanent sterility and other lifelong health issues.
  
• Violent men who identify as "women" are being allowed access to vulnerable women in single-sex spaces where they have further abused and brutalized women.

All of the above are legitimate causes for concern and warrant discussion and debate.
Whining because the mean people say mean things is just whining.

Just wondering.. is it actually a criminal offence to be straight now in the US..?

Judging by the reaction from these fringe leftist groups, I'd wager that they seem to think so..

Thankfully they cant reproduce because of their sexual choice.

Yeah that's natural

a reply to: Boadicea

People like you scare me because you can't get past yourself.

I guess there are no reflective surfaces where you live...

Tell me one thing practical or productive about posting this nonsense? How is it anything more or less than a pity party?

If I have to explain it to you I am willing to bet its a waste of time, but I will do it anyway. This thread is about people who protested a straight pride parade based on, among other things, hate speech directed at its organizers.

You tell me: what is wrong with straight people having a parade to celebrate their lifestyle? Especially in light of the many over reaches in the trans community's demands you claim you have written about. In the face of that kind of over bearing demand how can you not understand a simple parade to affirm and validate their lifestyle? Hypocrite.

Or white people being proud of their heritage? According to many minorities being white means you are descendant of criminals and are therefore criminal yourself. Or what about Christians? Just mention you are Christian and you risk all manner of ills aimed at you.

Any gay, non-white or non-christian that wants to have a parade to celebrate their lifestyle, preference, or religion is more than welcome to do so and is offended to their core when someone tries to "violate their rights" by expressing a difference of opinion or a different choice. Then these same people have a protest - not just to express a difference of opinion, but to disrupt and ultimately prevent or silence the opposing view. Hypocrite.

Whether its straight people, white people, or Christians they are all set upon by violent fascist thugs trying to silence them just for showing some pride in who they are and what they believe. A muslim can throw down a rug and pray anywhere they want and no one is allowed to stop them. But a Christian is not allowed to sit quietly and pray silently to himself on school grounds because it might offend someone like a muslim or an atheist. Hypocrite.

Have you ever seen an atheists attacking muslims or trying to prevent them from praying? Hypocrite.

Have you ever seen black people protesting Cinco de Mayo? Hypocrite.

When minorities or lgbt-whatever or non-christians have a parade is it a pity party? Hypocrite.

Other people's opinions of you are none of your business. People can think whatever they want about you, me or the lamppost. They can keep it to themselves and/or they can scream it from the rooftops. Doesn't matter.

Yes, it does. When people lose their jobs over some of these issues, lose relationships, or find themselves on terror watch lists or facing criminal charges because they have been accused of hate speech and/or association with what are more and more frequently being identified as terrorist organisations- yes, it matters. Was it Tlaib who said old white men are the most dangerous terrorist group in this country? Yes, it matters.

What matters is when/if that person has power over you and your rights.

And by trying to interfere or stop a straight pride parade they are trying to do exactly that: exert their power over someone else's right to express themselves. Honestly, do you even hear yourself? Hypocrite.

All of the above are legitimate causes for concern and warrant discussion and debate.

Not in this thread, so why bring them up here? Oh yeah, I forgot. Its all about you. Hypocrite.

Whining because the mean people say mean things is just whining.

Wow. This really is all about you.

Oh yeah - hypocrite.

originally posted by: Ironclad1964
Just wondering.. is it actually a criminal offence to be straight now in the US..?

Judging by the reaction from these fringe leftist groups, I'd wager that they seem to think so..

That is basically the point I was making. If you are straight, white, or christian in some eyes you are automatically criminal. And some people are fairly straightforward in saying so. Its not just fringe groups either. Do Lemmon and rashida tlaib said white men are the biggest terrorist group in the US. I think that opinion is starting to move toward center for many liberals.

Meanwhile, liberals are the ones openly calling for so many illegal and immoral things on a national scale its sickening. Liberals are actively engaged in the destruction of this nation but white men are the terrorists...

Being white and proud of it does not make someone a white supremacist, or a terrorist. Pride does not mean hate. Those are two different things. You can be proud and not hate anyone else. And you can hate without having pride in yourself. Those are separate traits independent of each other.

a reply to: Boadicea

To be clear, the protesters were not protesting heterosexuality, but the social/political/ideological associations of the parade organizers:

You mean this wasn't organized to give gay people a chance to thank straight
people for their lives?

originally posted by: carsforkids
a reply to: Boadicea

To be clear, the protesters were not protesting heterosexuality, but the social/political/ideological associations of the parade organizers:

You mean this wasn't organized to give gay people a chance to thank straight
people for their lives?

Totally political with a touch of heterosexual superiority mixed in.

a reply to: Boadicea

I don't see why I should be proud of being a heterosexual. It's not like it was some great accomplishment that I struggled to achieve. In fact it was completely effortless.

Seeing a lot of praise for single parents here..... oh wait, my bad, single mothers......

I was a single straight Dad of 2 daughters.

Oh the hell that caused me.


But yeah if you're a single Mum good on you for doing it on your own....... women are incapable of being bad parents after all.

Nah seriously, when it's single mothers it's always 'good on those mums' as if only one type of single parent exists.

Funny how people questioned my ability to raise 2 girls. Believed the crap their mother told them, but not once asked her "Why did the court give him full custody and not you?"

I went to gaol on made up charges (I was cleared), my life was destroyed. And I'd do it all again to ensure my children were raised in a healthy environment.

originally posted by: Ironclad1964
Just wondering.. is it actually a criminal offence to be straight now in the US..?

Judging by the reaction from these fringe leftist groups, I'd wager that they seem to think so..

Obviously not, since the parade was given a permit, and no one was arrested for being straight.

Apparently your "judgment" is based on stupid things people say.

a reply to: Vroomfondel

Boohoo.

I'm done with you.

originally posted by: MissSmartypants
a reply to: Boadicea

I don't see why I should be proud of being a heterosexual. It's not like it was some great accomplishment that I struggled to achieve. In fact it was completely effortless.

I tend to agree. And I'm certainly not inclined to attend or take part in a parade to celebrate!

At the same time, people can celebrate what they want to celebrate. And I will say that I was happy not to see any signs trash talking anyone's other sexuality. But it's a shame that folks couldn't just let them do their thing and go along their way.

originally posted by: AtomicKangaroo
Seeing a lot of praise for single parents here..... oh wait, my bad, single mothers......

I was a single straight Dad of 2 daughters.

Oh the hell that caused me.

My congrats and props on doing one of the hardest jobs any man can do.



And my apologies for not speaking up for single dads immediately as well. I hang my head in shame. Someone else did bring up single dads also, and I did have to correct myself already. But I'm happy to do so for all the men out there who have had to pick up the ball and run with it all on their own.

It sure ain't easy being a single parent, and I have much respect for you!