New reflections on Ariel Incident - "All the trees will just go down" - Forest fires / tree death

video w/ specific comments starts at 4:18

Interesting that this event occurred in 1994....and here we are in 2019...and the message is coming to fruition. While there have always been forest fires, as far as I know...not on the scale and distribution of recent times.

Of course, the Amazon (Brazil, Bolivia) and Siberia forest fires are in the news now, and Alaska too. Last year Greece (Now on Evia island), and of course (For me)...Paradise, California burning down from last year comes to mind. Also British Columbia...sending smoke to the US PNW in 2017/2018. Nevermind the various other fires of the past few years. Greenland, Spain, Portugal, Indonesia, Central Africa, Australia, Chile, Washington / Oregon State....

Fire videos

...but you may not have heard about deaths due to pine beetles.



Billions of trees dying due to pine beetles. 150 million in California for example in the past several years. Hundreds of millions in British Columbia, Canada.Colorado too. Alaska again now.

USDA Tree Mortality

Tree death progression map by year 2015-2018


800 million dead trees in Colorado (20%)


Bark Beetle Central Europe

You can see 2014 was kind of the take off year...hey why was that. ;-) Only inquiring minds will find out for now...hmmm 2014/2015 kind of important in relation to tree death in California / Western USA...hmmm...2 different parts of the world...does the plot thicken?

Climate change to blame as bark beetles ravage central Europe's forests


..also other tree / bug relationships out of whack...


...say why was the message in 1994...bonus points if you figure it out! Hint: that is also related to a message sent to at least one of the Ariel students.

a reply to: dontneedaname

But also let's keep in mind that lots of fires happen by chance in places where some people would like to build stuff or in other ways remove the trees for business and stuff, like in the Amazon and in Mexico some months ago i believe

But in a way it would validate what she said in the video

I guess we were already going into this path but i'm not sure it was something people did not knew back then already

They show abductees a wide variety of different doomsday scenarios for Earth, I've heard some say lava will cover the Earth, others say they saw massive floods covering the Earth, some say they see the Earth break apart, etc. They aren't really providing visions of the future, they are using fearmongering tactics to scare people into action. I don't really care if the Earth will implode tomorrow, the way to warn us isn't to abduct people and use fear as a motivator.

originally posted by: Malisa
a reply to: dontneedaname


I guess we were already going into this path but i'm not sure it was something people did not knew back then already

she didn't know...then she was told...maybe "some" people knew back then...but the thought was probably - "Not in my lifetime." Guess the joke is on those people....oh wait...that's just about everyone...

1994 - awareness of global warming (Whatever the cause) was about nil. Inconvenient Truth came out in 2006 (Whether you agree with it or not). Kyoto Protocol was in 1997... But really - in 1994..."nobody" knew....other than a small subset...but still an abstract concept back then.

CNN - Kyoto protocol - 1997

From my life experience...global warming never came to mind for me in the mid 1990s. (Was in college then)

According to Google Ngram - global warming really started to be talked about in 1986

books.google.com... rming%3B%2Cc0

And back to 1993

Global Warming TV Ad - 1993

Now imagine how many people talked about global warming in Zimbabwe in 1994...

originally posted by: ChaoticOrder
They show abductees a wide variety of different doomsday scenarios for Earth, I've heard some say lava will cover the Earth, others say they saw massive floods covering the Earth, some say they see the Earth break apart, etc. They aren't really providing visions of the future, they are using fearmongering tactics to scare people into action. I don't really care if the Earth will implode tomorrow, the way to warn us isn't to abduct people and use fear as a motivator.

Just re-watched MI3...I'll just quote the terrorist statement...the greater the suffering, the greater the peace.

But why is that...what causes "non-peace"....BIG EGOS. Egos for most - only gets deflated through suffering. A select few are proactive in knocking down their egos without too much suffering...but as a % of the world population...very very few.

Well flash flooding and floods going on all over...if u subscribe to the right Youtube channels...you can see that up to date. Maybe the Earth breaking apart comes later...much later...but that won't be an issue for the souls that evolve...

"We grow through suffering...if we choose to" that's what I say (Have said that for a long time - before rewatching MI-3)

wind events increasing...another reason for "trees to go down"...

hurricanes as well... images from Caribbean last year come to mind.

some Extreme Weather / New Normal / Earth Change YT channels I follow...- this is a partial cut & paste from a Reddit post I made.

Disaster Compilations - www.youtube.com...

Doesn't do multi-event compilations, but is updated frequently. Compilations of individual events usually. No $ request. No religion.

SOTT Monthly Earth Changes - www.youtube.com...

Great presentation style. Monthly uploads...that go DAY by DAY and show extreme weather events. They tend NOT to cover heat waves that well - few do - not very spectacular. They do show wildfires though. They have done fireballs/meteors very well. The day indicator is great for historical research purposes. No religion. Contribution - $2 / month.

Times & Signs News - www.youtube.com...

Flat out the best channel for up to the day / last few days strange / extreme weather. Bible verses mixed in at times, and some non-weather (As Two Preachers as well)...but if you disagree, don't throw the baby out with the bath water! Everybody knows something...but our emotional blindness, blinds us to learning from others who may differ on some of our own strongly held opinions / viewpoints. This channel kind of came out of nowhere if you look at their earlier videos - which seemingly have nothing to do with weather reporting. No $ request.

Two Preachers - www.youtube.com...

This is one of the first ones I came across as I realized our weather was changing much faster in 2018. These guys are VERY prolific. It along with some other channels helped open my eyes to what is really going on around the world. Stuff mainstream news sources either A) Don't talk about - ignore, B) Don't know about, C) Only briefly mention and/or buried among an avalanche of other worthless gossip, etc... and mainstream news sources -- don't understand the big picture, never mind the details. Mainstream news is also beholden to their advertisers. Local news of course, is more focused on local - not global. The time format of daily TV news is not suitable to stuff like you see in this post.

They also talk about their bible mission a lot, but it is easy to skip that. Other than that, they keep talk about bible/religion to a relative minimum. Most recent videos DO NOT include mass animal deaths. Contributed $20 earlier, will give more soon.

Notable Two Preachers videos -

Mass Animal Deaths compilation 2008-2015 (3 hours!) - www.youtube.com...

Terrifying Sinkhole Compilation (2014) - www.youtube.com...

They used to have some end times compilation playlists, but I can't seem to find the main one. Here is one of them that is UNLISTED on Youtube. It only has some of them.

www.youtube.com...

Massive Compilation 2015 (3 hours) - www.youtube.com...

World of Signs - www.youtube.com...

originally posted by: ChaoticOrder
They show abductees a wide variety of different doomsday scenarios for Earth, I've heard some say lava will cover the Earth, others say they saw massive floods covering the Earth, some say they see the Earth break apart, etc. They aren't really providing visions of the future, they are using fearmongering tactics to scare people into action. I don't really care if the Earth will implode tomorrow, the way to warn us isn't to abduct people and use fear as a motivator.

Nope...they are being given accurate messages...I know I was given one....but what you will receive is what will happen in the geographical area you were in when they showed you what is to come...so it will be different for different areas....at the same moment one side of the Earth will be afire and one will not....if two people on different sides are shown the same moment in time they will see very different things.

a reply to: dontneedaname

Before that , global Ice Age
Before that , the hole in the ozone layer
Before that another "Dust Bowl" scenario
Before that...

Pretty sure I mentioned my experience here before. But at the risk of outing myself as a crazy, here goes.

I was out with 3 buddies, walking a trail late at night. Suddenly, my brain and all of my senses go into overdrive and I drop to my knees. The way I describe it is as if you watched 5 movies and listened to 50 songs within 3 seconds.

I got up and saw one of my friends on the ground, the other two helping him up. The one that had been on the ground looked at me and we both knew the same thing happened. No words needed.

The other 2 didn't experience anything other than seeing my friend and i drop down and start speaking gibberish for a few seconds.

There's something funky out there. Be it terrestrial or extra. Of that i have no doubt.

a reply to: dontneedaname

We should stop dropping 35,000 bombs every year on Muslims in the Middle East and start planting trees in this country!

originally posted by: Gothmog
a reply to: dontneedaname

Before that , global Ice Age
Before that , the hole in the ozone layer
Before that another "Dust Bowl" scenario
Before that...

As far as i know the first two were a real thing? I remember reading about them and seeing pictures and wasn't there a small ice age like a few hundred years ago or so?

Never heard of the "Dust Bowl" and it seems weird, is that like a tournament on some bars or stuff like that?

What happened before that?

a reply to: dontneedaname

No one else thinks it is funny the only evidence for any of this stuff is testimonials??


The easiest tool of measurement to fool is the human brain..

originally posted by: Malisa

originally posted by: Gothmog
a reply to: dontneedaname

Before that , global Ice Age
Before that , the hole in the ozone layer
Before that another "Dust Bowl" scenario
Before that...

As far as i know the first two were a real thing? I remember reading about them and seeing pictures and wasn't there a small ice age like a few hundred years ago or so?

Never heard of the "Dust Bowl" and it seems weird, is that like a tournament on some bars or stuff like that?

What happened before that?

In the 1930 it was massive dust storms in North America. See below.

www.google.com... l5.0.0..14507...0.3..0.0.0.......0.JBRRf9RjsLw

In the 80s and 90s it was the "Greenhouse Effect" and the loss of the Ozone layer (and a hole), caused by CFCs and USA Nuclear testing.

Any tv adverts of the early 90s mentioning "Global Warming" because you turn your heater up 1 degree, is Not the same "Global Warming" they are talking about nowadays. It had a different meaning back then in the UK. It was actually More to do with saving energy/pollution etc, than any warming message. Typical tongue in cheek British humour.

As far as the Amazon burning...it is not.
What it is, is excessive clearing of native vegetation for agriculture etc, then Burning off the remaining dried vegetation lefft over from the clearing..........yes not smart, but not burning the "Amazon" away.
The Indonesians have been doing the same for years now, and polluting huge swathes of Middle Earth near the Equator.
Some cities in Asia are covered in smoke because of it. All for Palm plantations.

originally posted by: Malisa

originally posted by: Gothmog
a reply to: dontneedaname

Before that , global Ice Age
Before that , the hole in the ozone layer
Before that another "Dust Bowl" scenario
Before that...

As far as i know the first two were a real thing? I remember reading about them and seeing pictures and wasn't there a small ice age like a few hundred years ago or so?

Never heard of the "Dust Bowl" and it seems weird, is that like a tournament on some bars or stuff like that?

What happened before that?

Another Dust Bowl was a scare tactic from the 60s
The Global Ice Age was a scare tactic in the 70s
The Hole in the Ozone was a scare tactic from the 80s
Wash , rinse , repeat before that.

originally posted by: Gothmog
a reply to: dontneedaname

Before that , global Ice Age
Before that , the hole in the ozone layer
Before that another "Dust Bowl" scenario
Before that...

FWIW - it's not CO2...if you follow some of those YT channels I noted above...you see how fast things are progressing. And there are other data points.

Here's a recent haunting whale death incident from earlier this year in Iceland.



Best MASS ANIMAL DEATHS website! Some will be turned off by the religious view and not see the forest for the trees. Woe to them!
Conversely - some will subscribe to the religious view and also NOT see the forest for the trees either. And some will be fixated on just animal deaths - and also - NOT see the forest for the trees.

Mass Animal Deaths 2011-2018

originally posted by: dfnj2015
a reply to: dontneedaname

We should stop dropping 35,000 bombs every year on Muslims in the Middle East and start planting trees in this country!

well..what would happen to the DEfense companies then? The whole structure of society needs to change....the greater the suffering, the greater the peace. Too much pride in the world. On all sides.

originally posted by: gort51
In the 80s and 90s it was the "Greenhouse Effect" and the loss of the Ozone layer (and a hole), caused by CFCs and USA Nuclear testing.

Any tv adverts of the early 90s mentioning "Global Warming" because you turn your heater up 1 degree, is Not the same "Global Warming" they are talking about nowadays. It had a different meaning back then in the UK. It was actually More to do with saving energy/pollution etc, than any warming message. Typical tongue in cheek British humour.

As far as the Amazon burning...it is not.
What it is, is excessive clearing of native vegetation for agriculture etc, then Burning off the remaining dried vegetation lefft over from the clearing..........yes not smart, but not burning the "Amazon" away.
The Indonesians have been doing the same for years now, and polluting huge swathes of Middle Earth near the Equator.
Some cities in Asia are covered in smoke because of it. All for Palm plantations.

Don't know what to say about the early 1990s TV ad...not from the UK...just the article I found last night.

As for Amazon burning...yes, tree clearing. Watching THE CHARCOAL PEOPLE is insightful. Old video I watched 15 years ago.



But to blame just tree clearing or Bolsonaro is faulty in my view..that sounds like a re-hash of sound bites with people with an axe to grind.

There is something else going on. Learn for yourself. I'll just say LOOK AT THE EVIDENCE AGAIN and AGAIN...WHY these specific years...what has happened? Why are fires breaking out in places with NO TREE CLEARING or MINIMAL. Like Greenland, Chile, British Columbia, etc... what about bark beetles?

This Tiny Beetle Is Devastating Forests in the Worst Outbreak Ever - NatGeo




CBC - The Beetles Are Coming (Canada) - great documentary!



This phenomenon has been going on for quite awhile...accelerating last several years.

The more I learn these days...the more I realize (The vast majority of) people are WAY TOO QUICK to form opinions..."relying on experts"

2019 - Southcentral Alaska’s spruce bark beetle infestation is spreading in Anchorage. There’s only one defense

2018 - Voracious spruce bark beetles are back in force in Southcentral Alaska


2014 - WA/Oregon border - Columbia River Gorge pine beetles - it's spreading further North as heat increases...USDA website has a up to date STORY BOARD that's interesting to look at.

2017 - fires in Greenland



2017 - Chile's Worst Wildfire Season



2018 - Wildfire smoke in BC, Canada