A report that evidence may have been lost in the Epstein case

originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: Boadicea

I certainly have suspicion he was working for someone. I even have my suspicion on who, but I'll keep that one before I have evidence so I don't stir the pot.

I'm betting dollars to donuts we have the same sneaking suspicion...

What's scary is if that's the case, a large power group not only knew of all of this, but celebrated their intelligence honey pot.

But as it stands that's just speculation on my part. He had one of the biggest open secrets and even was in prominent circles after 08'... Really makes you wonder.

Well, it's the same speculation on my part, and yes, it is quite scary.

I certainly have suspicion he was working for someone. I even have my suspicion on who, but I'll keep that one before I have evidence so I don't stir the pot.

Oh, come on. Now my curiosity has peeked, please share. Hell, maybe someone here on ATS will help bring up evidence to support your claim.

originally posted by: Middleoftheroad

I certainly have suspicion he was working for someone. I even have my suspicion on who, but I'll keep that one before I have evidence so I don't stir the pot.

Oh, come on. Now my curiosity has peeked, please share. Hell, maybe someone here on ATS will help bring up evidence to support your claim.

My guess is it's external seeing as the most damage to be done would be towards American politics. That doesn't rule out a domestic effort to reign in towards a goal from un-elected officials... But I lean towards foreign.

That said, I'm not completely sold, just a lean.

Sorry for not being more specific, but as my name implies, I can be a real stinker.

a reply to: The2Billies
That's why I said in another post that there should be someone watching the FBI on the raid on epsteins island. The FBI aren't working for the US, judging by their bias investigations so far.

originally posted by: The2Billies
This is a real shocker - NOT for those who have been following the case.

www.breitbart.com...

Evidence of Jeffrey Epstein’s crimes and operations “may have been lost,” warned U.S. Virgin Islands Sen. Oakland Benta (D) in a Monday interview on SiriusXM’s Breitbart News Tonight with host Rebecca Mansour and special guest host Matt Boyle.

Wow, none of us could have predicted this one, could we? Well, maybe those of us who find his "suicide" suspicious probably did predict this one.

“What’s going on here is what should have happened a long time ago,” said Benta of federal authorities investigating an island owned by Epstein. “As a result of all that has transpired, the federal government decided [to investigate] now, whether it’s too late or not — because there have been so many people on the island since Mr. Epstein has been incarcerated and, at the same time, there’s valuable information, evidence-wise, that we may have lost.”

What's next? The sleeping guards get in car accidents? Ghislaine Maxwell commits "suicide" too? Really, this is becoming a farce of a coverup, almost worthy of a comedy movie.

whoops
they were supposed to keep that?
golly sorry about that

originally posted by: Boadicea
The more I think about it, the more convinced I am that Epstein was a full-time intel operative and that the dirt he had(has) on people -- read national and international politicians and leaders -- is much bigger than doing the dirty with underage girls. It's the only thing that makes any sense. And I continue to lean toward Epstein being disappeared, rather than suiciding or suicided.

Which keeps bringing my thoughts back to the second poster in the 4/chan thread...

Here is one thing that's true: Certain intelligence agencies specifically look for ways to gather dirt on world leaders to gain leverage over them with blackmail, or identify those who can be bribed and with what. The CIA, as far as I understand, is the main player in this.

Now, let's imagine that Epstein really was set up by one or more intel agencies (CIA? Mossad?) to service the world elite for the sake of collecting blackmail on them (which I also suspect was the case)...
What happens when people realize that one of their government agencies was selling trafficked children to be raped, tortured and murdered for the sake of potentially manipulating world leaders, politicians, influential people, etc? Of course there's a certain line with such activities - most people might say it's ok to offer some top Chinese military hacker a little money in secret to find out how much of our information they stole. Some people might say it's ok to quietly off some politician selling Top Secret information to North Korea about South Korea's defenses. Pretty much nobody is going to say it's ok to organize the trafficking of children for heinous abuse and murder.
If everything came to light about this case, it would probably be the biggest political incident the world has ever seen, and turn into a mess that would be impossible to clean up.

a reply to: trollz

If everything came to light about this case, it would probably be the biggest political incident the world has ever seen, and turn into a mess that would be impossible to clean up.

Exactly. And I may have just come upon the one piece of information I needed to put this all into its proper context and perspective. That one tidbit that made it all click in my head and literally gave me the chills. But I need to follow it up a little more to be sure.

a reply to: Boadicea

Send me a message when you post it, so I'll know to go read it

originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: Boadicea

Send me a message when you post it, so I'll know to go read it

Me too

originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: Boadicea

Send me a message when you post it, so I'll know to go read it

Will do!

I need to follow it up and get all my ducks in a row first though...

a reply to: Stealu1two

Only 1 of the 3 pilots kept logs apparently

Yup evidence lost, what was burned this was no coincidence.



Massive Fire Spotted On Private Island Owned By Billionaire Jeffrey Epstein
BY CLOVERCHRONICLE ON JANUARY 5, 2019
On Friday evening, residents living in the Caribbean near Jeffrey Epstein, a wealthy registered sex offender, reported hearing an explosion and seeing a very large fire on the southwest corner of his private island.
cloverchronicle.com...

It is still there but it has been hidden as with 99% of cases that involve those who think their s--- doesn't stink.
a reply to: The2Billies

originally posted by: FauxMulder

originally posted by: The2Billies
Really, this is becoming a farce of a coverup, almost worthy of a comedy movie.

I think they just don't care anymore.

We're all just crazy, Nazi, racist, bigot, homophone, xenophobe, tin foil covered, right wing, white privileged conspiracy nuts anyway.

What's for them to worry about?

Yep were damn near as bad as the infowarriors.

a reply to: SeaWorthy

Wonder if this is pay back from the clintons over the picture of bill in the dress.

originally posted by: toysforadults
Everyone in this thread just got labeled as domestic t*******

It's also curious that the US Gov. would label conspiracy theorists as the 'T' word just before all this happened.

a reply to: CriticalStinker
a reply to: trollz

Okay, here's a start to where my thoughts are going now: New comment on the "Epstein's Death Was On 4Chan Before Officials Announced It — Now Authorities Are Investigating" thread.

It's just a start, though, because this whole thing is so darn convoluted and complicated!

I would very much appreciate any thoughts you have, especially any flaws in my thinking... I may or may not agree, but I want/need to know if/where my logic is off.

originally posted by: Chance321
a reply to: SeaWorthy

Wonder if this is pay back from the clintons over the picture of bill in the dress.

More likely burning mattresses with DNA, masses of child porn disks, temple idols, blood stained furniture and masses of records on who came and went for years.

originally posted by: SeaWorthy
Yup evidence lost, what was burned this was no coincidence.

Massive Fire Spotted On Private Island Owned By Billionaire Jeffrey Epstein
BY CLOVERCHRONICLE ON JANUARY 5, 2019
On Friday evening, residents living in the Caribbean near Jeffrey Epstein, a wealthy registered sex offender, reported hearing an explosion and seeing a very large fire on the southwest corner of his private island.
cloverchronicle.com...

Ya think this was no coincidence. Today it was officially declared he committed suicide according to the coroner.

Yes, it was just coincidence the guards were both asleep, just coincidence the hall cameras were out, sure. Just coincidence the site had a fire. Of course, we all believe that.