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Analysis of Andrew Yang's Policies

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posted on Aug, 9 2019 @ 07:21 PM
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Ok, so here’s something I don’t understand. Why do businesses get to pass the tax on to us? Actually I do understand it, it’s because they make the rules. But it could be easily handled by the irs to extract the taxes from their profit after sales. It’s bs. I don’t get to pass my taxes on my labor onto my employer. It’s a double standard system and it’s bs. The tax system as set up is a total scam, as is wages for labor. It has nothing to do with productivity when in the corporate world, as most of us are, and is purely based upon a tug of war, where the corporations have all the muscle.



posted on Aug, 9 2019 @ 07:33 PM
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originally posted by: pexx421
Ok, so here’s something I don’t understand. Why do businesses get to pass the tax on to us? Actually I do understand it, it’s because they make the rules. But it could be easily handled by the irs to extract the taxes from their profit after sales. It’s bs. I don’t get to pass my taxes on my labor onto my employer. It’s a double standard system and it’s bs. The tax system as set up is a total scam, as is wages for labor. It has nothing to do with productivity when in the corporate world, as most of us are, and is purely based upon a tug of war, where the corporations have all the muscle.


Uhm... really now? My God, have you ever looked at economics outside of whatever Gene Roddenburyesque imaginary hell you just pulled that posts concepts from?

Businesses are in business to do something called "making money", it's sort of the entire reason a business exists in the first place. To produce a good, or service, expenses are amassed in the form of labor costs (which include a lot of costs you seem to be ignorant of like insurance, taxes paid to the government on each laborer to go towards social security and Medicare, retirement benefits, unemployment insurance, and the ever popular long term disability/workman's compensation insurances), facility costs (rent, property insurance, utilities), materials used to manufacture a good or facilitate a service, transportation costs, shipping costs, training costs, marketing costs, the list goes on. The sum of these expenses equals the "cost of doing business"... To determine the viability of the business, the cost of producing a good is measured against the wholesale price of the good or service. The difference between these two is something called profit margin... From that profit, shareholders receive their share in a publicly traded or privately held firm, either one. Whatever is left over is often invested back into the business in hopes of it growing.

You don't get to pass taxes back off to your employer because you're being taxed on your earnings EXACTLY THE SAME as the individuals who run and own the company that employs you are. For what it's worth, I agree with you on taxes being a scam. It is a system which should not be, on individual income OR on corporate income. Those taxes simply feed a growing, gnawing, corrupt beast in the government and we'd be better off starving that beast down to near death... I disagree with you entirely on wages. You agree to trade your time for a particular price point. If you are unhappy with that price point, then better your position, be a better employee, work harder, get your GED and then go get a college degree or learn a new trade.



posted on Aug, 9 2019 @ 09:19 PM
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originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: pexx421
Ok, so here’s something I don’t understand. Why do businesses get to pass the tax on to us? Actually I do understand it, it’s because they make the rules. But it could be easily handled by the irs to extract the taxes from their profit after sales. It’s bs. I don’t get to pass my taxes on my labor onto my employer. It’s a double standard system and it’s bs. The tax system as set up is a total scam, as is wages for labor. It has nothing to do with productivity when in the corporate world, as most of us are, and is purely based upon a tug of war, where the corporations have all the muscle.


Uhm... really now? My God, have you ever looked at economics outside of whatever Gene Roddenburyesque imaginary hell you just pulled that posts concepts from?

Businesses are in business to do something called "making money", it's sort of the entire reason a business exists in the first place. To produce a good, or service, expenses are amassed in the form of labor costs (which include a lot of costs you seem to be ignorant of like insurance, taxes paid to the government on each laborer to go towards social security and Medicare, retirement benefits, unemployment insurance, and the ever popular long term disability/workman's compensation insurances), facility costs (rent, property insurance, utilities), materials used to manufacture a good or facilitate a service, transportation costs, shipping costs, training costs, marketing costs, the list goes on. The sum of these expenses equals the "cost of doing business"... To determine the viability of the business, the cost of producing a good is measured against the wholesale price of the good or service. The difference between these two is something called profit margin... From that profit, shareholders receive their share in a publicly traded or privately held firm, either one. Whatever is left over is often invested back into the business in hopes of it growing.

You don't get to pass taxes back off to your employer because you're being taxed on your earnings EXACTLY THE SAME as the individuals who run and own the company that employs you are. For what it's worth, I agree with you on taxes being a scam. It is a system which should not be, on individual income OR on corporate income. Those taxes simply feed a growing, gnawing, corrupt beast in the government and we'd be better off starving that beast down to near death... I disagree with you entirely on wages. You agree to trade your time for a particular price point. If you are unhappy with that price point, then better your position, be a better employee, work harder, get your GED and then go get a college degree or learn a new trade.


See and the last paragraph is where it all falls apart. Our pay at work is not based upon what a good employee we are or how much work we do. It’s a straight formula of base pay plus a set percentage for years of experience. That’s not merit based, as none of our society is merit based. It’s longevity based and a system of control, allowing them to wage fix across vast segments. As to corporations.....so what? It’s a flawed system. We shouldn’t even have corporations in their current form anyway, the whole system is massively destructive to our democracy.



posted on Aug, 10 2019 @ 12:44 AM
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originally posted by: dfnj2015

It's funny how the so called "left wing media" owned solely by Republicans are only propping up relatively right-wing candidates like Harris and biden. You would think if the mass media were truly "left wing" then Bernie and Andrew would get a lot more air time.

Such a claim requires some sourcing, I highly doubt the majority of left wing media is owned by Republicans. And if you haven't noticed by now the Dems always go for the bland mainstream person... the exact same thing happened with Hillary, in fact the Dems took actions to ensure Bernie would concede to Hillary. It seems to me a lot of dems are realizing the level of corruption and lies within the Democrat party and all they can do is try to shift the blame to a party which makes sense in their mind.



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