TTSA has acquired multiple pieces of metamaterials that may be from UFO

originally posted by: Baablacksheep
a reply to: SacredLore

Dr Jack Sarfatti I see.

Now that's a name I've not heard in a long time.

originally posted by: spf33
a reply to: 1point92AU

Doesn't mean anything that the image hasn't been indexed by Tineye.

I also vaguely recall seeing that image several years ago, but I don't remember where. I seem to recall it being dismissed as a piece of waste metal slag either from welding or grinding.

originally posted by: spf33
a reply to: 1point92AU

Doesn't mean anything that the image hasn't been indexed by Tineye.

Besides, I want to say that it was in a some sort of TTSA presentation video from 2017-2018, maybe. It was just a quick cut in the background.

Maybe in here somewhere: www.youtube.com...

I'll keep my eyes open and report back here if I do come across it.

I will say that I'd be more interested in hunting it down if Delonge hadn't served up another blow to his and TTSA's credibility by presenting a highly altered stock image as a "metamaterial that has been reported to have come from an advanced aerospace vehicle of unknown origin": www.instagram.com...

That fact right there...charlatans ans shysters.

You sound like another disgruntled TTSA fanboy hater like your pied piper MM. And as I've said multiple times across multiple threads (just so you haters don't get it twisted) my disagreement with your inability to pose a valid argument doesn't make me a TTSA supporter. I see the continued BS being posted in an attempt to discredit people who bring to light information and none of the TTSA FanBoy Haters Club have yet to be able to provide proof to back your claims of illegitimacy.

To the contrary I see nothing but misleading statements from "official sources" taken completely out of context to fit a false narrative you guys like to continue to push. Let's hope they do perform their due diligence in validating the claims made regarding the "metamaterial" and save the pre-judgement until after they make another announcement regarding their findings.

If they are full of shlt then so be it and I'll be right there with you with a pitch fork clamoring for their heads as well. Until then I'll reserve judgement based on the validation or invalidation of the evidence being presented.

originally posted by: 1point92AU

You sound like another disgruntled TTSA fanboy hater like your pied piper MM. And as I've said multiple times across multiple threads (just so you haters don't get it twisted) my disagreement with your inability to pose a valid argument doesn't make me a TTSA supporter. I see the continued BS being posted in an attempt to discredit people who bring to light information and none of the TTSA FanBoy Haters Club have yet to be able to provide proof to back your claims of illegitimacy.

Grow up.

a reply to: 1point92AU

You are entitled to your opinion of course. I am entitlled to mine. Here all I see is someone hating on the fact checkers who keep questioning TTSA's continual lack of attention to detail and failure to provide evidence to back up their claims.

a reply to: Lucidparadox

The Navy pilots confirmed the videos were real, and came from their group. They also confirmed that they are only partials of much longer videos that include more craft.

I never said anything about the Navy pilots. Although it's strange how TTSA have only a couple of UFO cases to cling to I do believe they are genuine mysteries. But it does not negate the fact that if TTSA make a claim they should be able to verify it. No chain of custody then don't claim you have one. So that's one illusion they've created already.

How did Elizondo get Steve Justice, the former head of skunkworks, Christopher Karl Mellon, the former United States Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence and later for Security and Information Operations who formerly served as the Staff Director of the United States Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, and John Podesta to come on and join the circus with him if he is phony and all of this is smoke and mirrors?

Did you get confused here or something? Elizondo was last one on board wasn't he?

originally posted by: mirageman
a reply to: 1point92AU

You are entitled to your opinion of course. I am entitlled to mine. Here all I see is someone hating on the fact checkers who keep questioning TTSA's continual lack of attention to detail and failure to provide evidence to back up their claims.

As I've said before, all the unnecessary angst, hate and suspicion (we're apparently "misinformation" agents) spewing from 1point92AU basically boils down to a simple plea of...





Which is understandable. We've all been there - a year ago I knew virtually nothing about modern ufology - and we're ALL on different steps of the UFO ladder, which of course makes for some messy discussions sometimes.

I actually LIKE 1point when he's not on this weird TTSA Inquisition - eg, he did good work in the excellent Casper, Wyoming Sighting thread, currently riding high on the forum.


We could all shake hands and start again from Square-One, if that doesn't sound too gentlemanly and old-fashioned.

The moment delonge's name was put into it, the BS meter broke.

$ecret machine$?

secret schemes...

UFOs on TV have more proof in them.

Rather listen to Dave Paulides, wish he did UFO reports.

a reply to: 1point92AU

I am thinking you need to relax a little and do some meditation, that or medication.

originally posted by: Zcustosmorum
a reply to: Lucidparadox

For TTSA to make such a bold statement they must have some serious proof

Yes, of course they do, like everyone else who has claimed such a thing before them, and it's not like they want you to watch their show or anything

and you don't think for just a moment, especially with the line up of people TTSA has, that this might actually be credible. did you even see the video that TTSA put out introducing everyone, and explaining the process they want to take with it?

originally posted by: Baablacksheep
a reply to: 1point92AU

I am thinking you need to relax a little and do some meditation, that or medication.

Oh, I'm good man but thanks for projecting your discomfort onto others. I can handle the BS TTSA Fanboy haters club.

originally posted by: mirageman
a reply to: 1point92AU

You are entitled to your opinion of course. I am entitlled to mine. Here all I see is someone hating on the fact checkers who keep questioning TTSA's continual lack of attention to detail and failure to provide evidence to back up their claims.

I'm not talking about opinions. I'm talking about posters like you who continually make inaccurate statements in an absolute capacity that is intentionally deceiving. You inferred I was someone with an agenda when clearly it is you who has the agenda.

No where in that press release do I see any absolute statements being made by Steve Justice where he states the material is in fact non-terrestrial. To the contrary he references 3 separate statements where they are going to continue a process of validation before releasing additional info. This one in particular says a lot "“If the claims associated with these assets can be validated and substantiated,..." - Steve Justice

Sounds a lot like he's not making any absolute claims right there.

Here is is again for anyone to read: www.singularfortean.com...

BTW...the tic tac video was released back in 2008. Leaked is a better way to put it. Fighter Sweep wasn't the first to break the Nimitz story.

You know there is another (different) Pentagon official on record confirming your boy Zondo did in fact head up ATIP, right? On record long before Chris Sherwood but you knew that already right? You also have your boy Harry Reid on record making the same statement about Zondo but you knew that too right?

Delonge is still a douche by the way. Actually, between Tom Delonge and Jeremy Lockyear Kenyan Corbell I can't decide who is doucheier (if that's even a word). My vote is for Jeremy.

originally posted by: gunshooter

originally posted by: Zcustosmorum
a reply to: Lucidparadox

For TTSA to make such a bold statement they must have some serious proof

Yes, of course they do, like everyone else who has claimed such a thing before them, and it's not like they want you to watch their show or anything

and you don't think for just a moment, especially with the line up of people TTSA has, that this might actually be credible. did you even see the video that TTSA put out introducing everyone, and explaining the process they want to take with it?

The TTSA Fanboy Haters Club overlooks this each and every time Gun Shooter. Multiple TTSA Fanboy Haters here have repeatedly made false statements about TTSA's objectives when it's CLEARLY spelled out in their video posted on their website for all the world to see.

They just don't like the 2 front men chosen as the face of TTSA.

Delonge and Zondo.

Wow, its like a typical NASA bashing around here.

People belittle and pick apart the people, who's content are the reason for talking about it in the first place, and throw them under the bus.

A little more respect is in order, unless there is substantial evidence that you are being lied to, at least not massively or even intentionally.

a reply to: 1point92AU

Who's MM?

It doesn't bother you TTSA|Delonge offered up a heavily modified stock image for their metamaterial post?

What if they had used this image to announce Gimbal?

image.shutterstock.com...

It's fair to wonder if this is misleading or deceptive and if it calls into question their motives and quite frankly, their intelligence.

originally posted by: spf33
a reply to: 1point92AU

Who's MM?

It doesn't bother you TTSA|Delonge offered up a heavily modified stock image for their metamaterial post?

What if they had used this image to announce Gimbal?

image.shutterstock.com...

It's fair to wonder if this is misleading or deceptive and if it calls into question their motives and quite frankly, their intelligence.

The photo is irrelevant. Your CLAIM is what is relevant. What about this are you not understanding? You made a claim you couldn't substantiate and then avoided substantiating that claim and expect people to simply believe you because it's your opinion?

I showed you where a reverse image search was unable to locate that particular image. I wasn't claiming the image was purporting to show anything. I was proving your claim that it was an "old image" was false.

I agree that it is fair to wonder, however, the only misleading or deceptive aspect is your claim. I'm a debunker of BS as well but I don't make claims I can't substantiate and yet you get upset when someone challenges you to substantiate your claim? Hypocrite much?

If TTSA "offered up a heavily modified stock image" (as you say) then prove it.

a reply to: 1point92AU

Fine, despite someone else here also recollecting the image, I will capitulate. Like I said, I cannot find nor remember where I saw it, I was pretty open about that.

Though, I will point out there is a Hal Puthoff presentation here behind a paywall that could be what I remember seeing: vimeo.com...

I'll report back when and if I do find the image and until that point I won't again suggest it's old and has already been shown.

But, for you to claim you are unaware of the stock image used by TTSA and Delonge indicates to me you either aren't paying enough attention or you are being disingenuous. Either sucks.

I've already created and posted the link to the stock image and the comparison, as have many other people across the internet.

imgur.com...

Is there something you aren't understanding?

There are no ETs, lol.

We have proof of dolphins, tigers, grass hoppers and even dinosaurs. No proof of ET; a being born not of this planet.

Raytheon, Martin, Lockheed, Gen Dyn, Boeing, and others have some pretty cool stuff in the tech pipeline it appears.

A plausible explanation for Art's Parts, later transferred to Linda Moulton Howe, has been found:

It resembles slag from the walls of a Magnetron Sputtering Chamber that alternately sputtered Magnesium and Bismuth.
Typically these sputtering chambers aren’t cleaned often allowing this accumulation on the inside surfaces of the chamber.

What makes this hypothesis even more probable: Some of ‘Art’s Parts’ look very much like sputtering targets which are routinely used for such Sputtering Chambers. Note the large circular disc and the smaller ‘pebbles’ that are rectangular, round, or rectangular with rounded corners in Art’s Parts:


Now note the same shapes in this collage of sputtering targets:


Probably some prankster working near a sputtering chamber sent Art Bell some sputtering targets first and claimed they came from the Roswell UFO.
When this initial shipment did not make a big impression because the pieces were merely aluminium, the prankster sent him some slag from the sputtering chamber’s inside, with the remark:

I noted that the Researcher discussing the testing of the samples noted that basically, it is merely Aluminum.
However, I neglected to include metallic samples of the exterior of the crashed Roswell disc.
I now include the enclosed, and can only say that these scrapings came from the exterior underside of the Disc itself.

Metabunk is already on it by the way.

a reply to: 1point92AU

Thank you, very interesting video! Do you know who is being interviewed by Linda?