Recent YouTube Video Spills The Beans On Lazar Proves He's A FRAUD

a reply to: Diaspar

I hadn't heard before the GK knew BL before 89. Let us know if you find anything, that would be a let down for me personally if true. I'll stay neutral 'til then.

a reply to: zazzafrazz

Bigelow employed George at NIDS. Yet seemingly failed to mention that he caught Lazar parading commercial emulsifier as his wonderful (and illegally acquired) element 115.

I find that hard to believe.

Smoly Moly...I don't know who comes out of that video as a bigger B.S. artist: Bob Lazar or George Knapp? The historical contradictions are both significant and inescapable.

I saw/heard no "proof" for either binary view of Lazar.

I heard hyperbolic, inflammatory language that usually appears when someone has a weak argument.

As an aside, funny how his name is so close to lazer... possibly more of the name game commented on in this "field" ... or not.

The whole case ultimately hinges on what proof is there that Bob Lazar worked on ET spacecraft at Area 51.

If you believe Bob. You believe the above is true. If you believe the above is true then what is the proof?

originally posted by: mirageman
The whole case ultimately hinges on what proof is there that Bob Lazar worked on ET spacecraft at Area 51.

If you believe Bob. You believe the above is true. If you believe the above is true then what is the proof?

Look, here's the proof. Bob drew a picture....

a reply to: Diaspar

And, in case anyone says that's not Bob's drawing, here's Bob drawing said hangar, doors and flying saucer

originally posted by: Baddogma
I saw/heard no "proof" for either binary view of Lazar.

I heard hyperbolic, inflammatory language that usually appears when someone has a weak argument.

Hey old buddy, BD. You know I love you but there were plenty of references to available documents and interviews, so while it was entertainingly and colorfully presented with more adjectives than necessary it wasn't the rhetorical exercise you seem to frame it as.

And, dayum, I'm going to look at it more closely and check Dank Net's timeline and factoids, but those are some suspicious circumstances around the time of Lazar's first wife's death.

a reply to: roadgravel

I think of it this way...
My work has security at the front gate.
It’s an underground mine, bringing up platinum and palladium.
When I first started here 10 years ago, I was searched each and every single time I stepped through that gate. Around the 6 month mark searches began to decline.
10 years later and I can’t even remember when the last time I got searched was.

I could walk through the gate with a group of 5 other people right now and will be waved through as the others get brought into the back room for checks.

The point I’m dragging out here is people develop a trust over time.
I could literally be bringing a 60L hiking pack filled with palladium through the front gate every time I leave hear.
That is a lot...and I mean a lot of value that I could potentially be taking home.
I never ever would do that. However the possibility is there.
I imagine that security in government buildings is very similar.
Under paid guards, long hours and a general lack of give a crap after a while.

I've been having a look back over the Bob knew George prior to their first interview theory that Dank Net put forward.

In this old ATS Thread i found a post by a user called johnlear.
(Does anyone know if this user was confirmed as the John Lear?)

He states:

On March 21, 1989 Bob asked me if I wanted to watch a saucer test flown and I said sure, when?. He said they are going to test fly tomorrow night just at sunset. He and I, Gene Huff and Bobs wife drove in my motorhome up to the back road into Groom Lake and parked just outside the restricted area. Just after sunset the saucer came up from behind the mountains and did some gravity jumps. I got a good look at it with my 8 inch Celestron after it had finished performing and was gently and slowly descending. It looked like a flying saucer oriented about 30 to 40 degrees with resepct to the horizon and was 'glowing' yellow or gold color, actually 'radiating' the color. I watched it for about 15 seconds before it settled back down behind the mountains. The was March 22, 1989. George Knapp went with Bob the following Wednesday and filmed it. The following Wednesday after that, April 6, 1989 was when we all got got.

So that would be Wednesday 29 Mar 1989.

The first interview with GK takes place in May 1989 where BL is known as "Dennis"

But, on air in 2014 GK said they got a stand in interviewee when their expected guest cancelled, they called John Lear who recommended they interview Bob (See 36:44 in the Dank Net video)

So if that poster was John Lear and his report is correct, then GK did know BL prior to their first interview.

Dank Net also says that would have known Bob from a piece he did on Desert Blast (see 28:22 in the Dank Net video)

I found this piece from Wired back in 1994, where they interview Bob about Desert Blast. According to this, he is definitely the creator of DB. So I would think that GK would have known that when he did this piece, but doesn't mention Bob at all.

Desert Blast is the brainchild of Bob Lazar - by day a freelance scientist and businessman - and Jim Tagliani, who pays the bills by installing and programming computers for Indian bingo parlors. As one DB adage goes: Bob builds it; Jim tries it out.

So, if he is John Lear and he is correct in saying that GK went with Bob on 29 Mar 1989 then they did know each other prior to their first interview, with GK seemingly saying 25 years later that Bob was only a stand-in recommended by John Lear.

I'm not so sure on the Desert Blast piece, not sure that really shows they knew each other prior to the 29 Mar 1989 filming.

a reply to: The GUT

Hiya back, though I've been reading you when you pop up. Always do.

Re Lazar and that vid... for sure... the guy and whole thing is SHADY! Shady from day one. Reeks of an op or plain ol' snow job... and the least reason is the claim of exotic tech being hidden away.

It's just not exactly "Proof" of anything ... only highly indicative.

Heck, maybe I'm the one that has to re-watch. It happens.

originally posted by: dfnj2015
a reply to: shawmanfromny

This video is awful. It's a just a character assassination. I don't really care about who Bob Lazar married. It's pure BS.

All Dank Net does is give a bunch of opinions. It's pure spin like propaganda. Meaningless tripe. This video is pure BS. The problem with Dank Net is was determine to support his own BS opinions.

Worse piece of crap video ever.

It's worse than spin and propaganda. It's going to get Dank Net sued. There are some very leading insinuations he makes with regards to Lazar's wife being murdered and Lazar having something to do with it.

a reply to: Diaspar

Good research, Diaspar and, yes, that was the John Lear here at ATS back in the day.

originally posted by: 1point92AU

originally posted by: dfnj2015
a reply to: shawmanfromny

This video is awful. It's a just a character assassination. I don't really care about who Bob Lazar married. It's pure BS.

All Dank Net does is give a bunch of opinions. It's pure spin like propaganda. Meaningless tripe. This video is pure BS. The problem with Dank Net is was determine to support his own BS opinions.

Worse piece of crap video ever.

It's going to get Dank Net sued.

Never happen. It's speculation noting somewhat suspicious circumstances and stated as so. Besides, I'm betting Lazar doesn't really want anyone taking any harder look at his past than has and is being done.

originally posted by: Baddogma
a reply to: The GUT

Hiya back, though I've been reading you when you pop up. Always do.

Synchronicity is a weird and wonderful thing!

originally posted by: mirageman
The whole case ultimately hinges on what proof is there that Bob Lazar worked on ET spacecraft at Area 51.

If you believe Bob. You believe the above is true. If you believe the above is true then what is the proof?

It does not hinge on proof any longer. When a story like this drags on for 30 years you end up with 3 groups. Believers, deniers, and the "not sure" groups. So much misinformation and disinformation has been spread for so long we have diluted and polluted story lines.

Ultimately neither side can prove or disprove Lazar's story. So it actually comes down to the more philosophical question being if a person believes in ET life or not. Lazar just happens to be one of many story lines out there that's been floating around for decades.

Arguing about whether Lazar is telling the truth or not will never yield a resolution. Ever.

Even the definition of "proof" has become so subjective these days that actual proof itself is no longer believed. We are at a point in time where 100 of us could collectively witness an ET event i.e. a craft descends from the sky, lands, and 2 ETs hop out, then board and take back off and half the group would claim it's a project Blue Beam scenario while the other half would be ET believers and both groups would argue for years about the first hand eye witness proof they each took part in.

UFOlogy has devolved into insanity along with any other topic worthy of discussion.

a reply to: 1point92AU

And you've hit on EXACTLY why some of us who are generally believers have a hard time with some of the folk who have been associated with disinformation.

It's not a problem so much with the overall thesis but some of the players. Funny I just sent you a pm about this topic and came here and saw the above post.

originally posted by: The GUT

originally posted by: 1point92AU

originally posted by: dfnj2015
a reply to: shawmanfromny

This video is awful. It's a just a character assassination. I don't really care about who Bob Lazar married. It's pure BS.

All Dank Net does is give a bunch of opinions. It's pure spin like propaganda. Meaningless tripe. This video is pure BS. The problem with Dank Net is was determine to support his own BS opinions.

Worse piece of crap video ever.

It's going to get Dank Net sued.

Never happen. It's speculation noting somewhat suspicious circumstances and stated as so. Besides, I'm betting Lazar doesn't really want anyone taking any harder look at his past than has and is being done.

None of what Dank Net talks about is new news. That's info that has been in the public realm for years so if people here are just seeing or hearing this for the first time then I would question the level of research they've done regarding Lazar to begin with.

Regarding my estimation Dank Net will be sued I still hold to that. Just because you plaster disclaimers all over your video doesn't exonerate you or mean you won't or can't get sued for making false and misleading insinuations about an event. Dank Net's video is purely speculation and he goes to great lengths to intentionally slander Lazar. Not to mention he specifically names George Knapp, John Lear, Joe Rogan, the retired police who administered the polygraph, and Gene Huff. Dank Net is insinuating there was a collective conspiracy by a group of people.

This has all the feels of a class action defamation lawsuit written all over it.

a reply to: 1point92AU

None of what Dank Net talks about is new news. That's info that has been in the public realm for years

and then you said

Dank Net's video is purely speculation

So which is it?
And why does it matter so much to you since according to you...

Arguing about whether Lazar is telling the truth or not will never yield a resolution. Ever.

and

UFOlogy has devolved into insanity along with any other topic worthy of discussion.

Sorry, but you really aren't making any sense

a reply to: Diaspar

You need better reading comprehension skills. You're disconnecting my connected dots and taking different statements from me regarding different topics in different posts and responding to them as if I said them lineally when I did not.

Don't misquote me and make insinuations that aren't true. If you want to debate something then stick to a single topic each time.