Man Returns to Abduction Site - Gets a “Historical Marker”

More legitimization of the phenomenon:

“What is certain about the night of Oct. 11, 1973, is this: When Charles Hickson and Calvin Parker Jr. arrived at the sheriff's department in Pascagoula, Mississippi, they were frantic. They told authorities they had just been abducted by aliens. Each had a puncture wound in one arm. Police tried to catch them in a lie, but it didn't work. Both men later passed polygraph tests.”

m.greenwichtime.com...

I’m going to irritate some people with this... but maybe “To The Stars” and the whole “tic-tac” incident really forced some hands - now we have a monument to “Alien Abduction”.

Come a long way on this subject in a last few years...

Not sure how I feel about this.

It's a fascinating case with no easy answers - certainly in the Top Ten cases, that's for sure, but when our own Rendlesham Forest (arguably the Number One case if we disregard the Roswell farce) had its own 'monument' resurrected, it seemed a bit... well, look at this thing...





No idea who those two are, but it's all a bit... "tragic"... and a bit "tawdry"...





Not to mention crisp and fag packets strewn around the place.

Ufology is a *cough* serious business, not a bloody picnic.

a reply to: ConfusedBrit

This is one of those illogical and truly bizarre cases that epitomizes “high strangeness”. Monument or not, I would contest that if there is truly a physical — and subject to a physical reality based on linear time — aspect to the ‘phenomenon’ this is a case that crossed that threshold.

I am fairly confident Hickinson and Parker didn’t hit up the parking lot of a Grateful Dead show and manage to find themselves in a shared hallucination; the story is so strange and bizarre that it strains credulity to believe a middle-aged day laborer and poorly-educated 18-year old could manage such a tale for any amount of time. And it seems Parker has changed his story (although the change is the only rational aspect to the case — I lied about a bunch of dumb stuff at 18-19 and I’d likely have lied in this instance if it made things easier) but Hickinson was steadfast and — as far I know — never wavered in the insistence it was a physical intrusion.

Whatever the case maybe concerning Parker’s change in story, it seems a logical explanation; the ensuing decades have provided the empirical evidence it wasn’t a cash grab.

@OP: Maybe more legitimacy to the fact this is an intractable ‘problem’ when trying to understand its nature based on our history of experiences (yeah, I know, “what other history is there to base an understanding from?” This an entirely different thread...)? I think legitimacy for TTSA went out the window when they solicited donations for shares in the company.

a reply to: Cravens

I hear you about TTSA but it kind of creates a weird catch 22/conundrum:

I have some ideas for how to zero in on UAPs but those ideas would require thousands of dollars I’d not more to fund - millions at larger scale with compensated bright minds in the rooms helping. I don’t have that scratch.

So TTSA goes the VC/crowd funding/public route to get the money to do the things I want to d (or not / but things they want to do for research) and then have to pay back “investors” as they billed it as an “investment” and not a donation.

So on the one hand they were trying and on the other hand they had to turn a profit because they said they would.

Alternately, someone like Bigelow can spend millions of his own dollars, get an answer - and then tell us jack about it.

Neither is a win for the UFO community - but it’s proof that “disclosure” comes down to money and resources.

So how do we get money and resources involved without money corrupting or influencing the outcome?

MUFON May have been that - but then Bigelow effectively bought them in his quest for truth. Which is kind of ironic!

As a formed multiple event abductee.... this has always resonated with me over my lifetime.....www.youtube.com...

Lots of people have been abducted....and have been waiting for vindication.

a reply to: EnigmaChaser

Fair enough. It’s a tough sell legitimizing any aspect of the research, public or private funded, save for a blind trust — even then someone/something would dog it without fail or merit.

I’m firm believer that as our tools of measurement become more refined science will peel back more layers to the phenomenon, but it is becoming more and more apparent — at least to me — that the phenomenon is rooted and springs forth in storytelling and the physical reality of the phenomenon is a byproduct of waking consciousness.

I’ll leave my pet theory there.

originally posted by: EnigmaChaser
More legitimization of the phenomenon:

“What is certain about the night of Oct. 11, 1973, is this: When Charles Hickson and Calvin Parker Jr. arrived at the sheriff's department in Pascagoula, Mississippi, they were frantic. They told authorities they had just been abducted by aliens. Each had a puncture wound in one arm. Police tried to catch them in a lie, but it didn't work. Both men later passed polygraph tests.”

m.greenwichtime.com...

I’m going to irritate some people with this... but maybe “To The Stars” and the whole “tic-tac” incident really forced some hands - now we have a monument to “Alien Abduction”.

Come a long way on this subject in a last few years...

So the part i don't quite understand about this episode is (and i'm taking directly from the link you provided):

At first, sheriff's investigators thought the men had just been drunk. Or lying. After interviewing the men, they left the room with a recorder secretly taping, hoping to catch the pair dropping the act once they left. But they didn't. They kept on talking about what they had seen and how scared they were.

But then later...

He told the media he had passed out at the beginning of the whole affair and couldn't remember what happened.

Surely the police, who were looking to debunk their story, would have looked at this contradiction and picked them up on it..

"We did everything we knew to try to break their stories," Jackson County Sheriff's Capt. Glen Ryder told The Post in 1975. "If they were lying to me, they should be in Hollywood."

Not saying this episode didn't happen or that their version isn't compelling, now and back then, just not sure how Parker could have run with 2 very different versions.

If he was passed out during the episode then they can't have discussed what happened in the original sheriff's interview and after whilst they left the recorders running. It would have only been Hickson saying what he saw/happened, not both.

Any thoughts on this discrepancy?

"Not that I would have shown up, but it would have been nice to be invited."