Recent UFO Encounters With Navy Pilots Occurred Constantly Across Multiple Squadrons

Something I had wondered after the reports from the Navy about encounters that could not be explained in a normal fashion was had other Squadrons or Naval personnel reported the same thing ? Evidently the AN/APG-79 Radar was the secret to initally tracking these whatever things..

A source with knowledge of the events has made it clear to The War Zone that presence of the mysterious objects in the restricted training airspace off America's east coast was so pervasive that it was largely common knowledge among local flying units. They noted that the majority of the Super Hornet squadrons equipped with AN/APG-79 Active Electronically Scanned Array (AESA) radars—you can read all about this technology and how it was key in detecting these objects in our exclusive piece on the subject—at the time were having the same experiences, as well as the crews flying the new E-2D Hawkeye with its incredibly powerful AN/APY-9 radar suite. It literally became such a common and near everyday occurrence that Naval Aviators and Naval Flight Officers from the base would talk about it informally with regularity.

Pretty normal for the pilots who saw something to talk about such things with trusted friends but once safety is compromised then the paperwork begins

Beyond filing an official safety report after one of the jets almost hit one of the unidentified objects—described eerily as a translucent sphere with a cube structure suspended inside of it—Notices To Airman (NOTAMs) were posted regarding the dangers potentially posed by unknown aerial vehicles flying in the same military operating areas that aircraft from NAS Oceana frequented for training. This action was taken by the base's command leadership as they couldn't figure out how else to address the bizarre issue and its perceived threat to their aircrews' safety.

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The sightings continued beyond 2015

The fact that these types of events could have been so pervasive, yet kept so hushed-up outside of Navy tactical aircraft aircrew circles, is telling in itself and provides good evidence as to why the Navy had to officially change is procedures for its personnel reporting such strange incidents.

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In a major breakthrough in what could be the most fascinating story of our time, five U.S. Navy F/A-18 Super Hornet crewmen have recounted a number of incredibly strange encounters with unidentified flying objects off the East Coast of the United States. Two of the pilots went on the record. The surreal craft they encountered had performance that defies known propulsion and aerodynamic capabilities, and are described as looking like something akin to special effects you would have seen in a sci-fi movie circa the late 1980s. The pilots' accounts also point to a major sensor upgrade on their aircraft that made the presence of these craft even detectable at all.

What's even more important is that these events took place as recently as 2015, over a decade after the now famous Nimitz incident with the so-called 'Tic Tac' craft occurred. This is all coming to light—at least officially—just weeks after the U.S. Navy said it is changing its procedures for its service members reporting unexplained phenomenon in their operating environments.

The first article (actually all the articles) show many links which should keep those who might be interested reading for a few hours; enjoy

I heard of an East coast UFO sighting in 2016, the craft was a sphere shape.

Near the outer banks of North Carolina.

An Arleigh Burke was in the area during the sighting.

Fourth Kind, mass abduction event purported.

a reply to: 727Sky

These stories remind me of those told by pilots during and after World War 2, who witnessed mysterious aerial phenomena.

Here's one account:

One night in November 1944, a Bristol Beaufighter crew—pilot Edward Schlueter, radar observer Donald J. Meiers, and intelligence officer Fred Ringwald—was flying along the Rhine north of Strasbourg. They described seeing “eight to 10 bright orange lights off the left wing…flying through the air at high speed.” Neither the airborne radar nor ground control registered anything nearby. “Schlueter turned toward the lights and they disappeared,” the report continued. “Later they appeared farther away. The display continued for several minutes and then disappeared.”

Reports kept coming in. The objects flew alongside aircraft at 200 mph; they were red, or orange, or green; they appeared singly or with as many as 10 others in formation; and they often out-maneuvered the airplanes they were chasing. They never showed up on radar.

“The pilots were very professional. They gave the report, talked about the lights, but didn’t speculate about them.” Still, the pilots found the sightings unnerving. “Scared #less” was how a 415th pilot described feeling to Keith Chester, author of Strange Company: Military Encounters With UFO’s in World War II.

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These "bogies" were seen by American, British, German and Japanese crews. Pilots named them FOO FIGHTERS back then and they exhibited the same type of flight characteristics as the TIC TAC UFOs seen by today's Navy pilots.

They were known, however, for their high rate of speed and agility, being much faster than any known aircraft at the time as well as being extremely manuverable, often exhibiting highly unconventional abilities such as instantaneous acceleration and deacceleration, rapid climbing and descent, and hovering in place.

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a reply to: shawmanfromny

And yet there are still those who claim, "Nothing to really see here but swamp gas, Venus, or an airliner with it's lights turned on".

Cool post!

The AN/APG 79 radar is a version of Actively Scanned Electronic Array system. Here’s the wiki:

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I’m trying to wrap my head around this setup as I’ve never heard of it. One thing that caught my eye was the “phased array” component of the wiki post.

Phased array:

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What I’m gleaning from the OP and the wiki page is that the “phase array” in question can emit many different frequencies, register an object on multiple frequencies and then piece them together to form a single image - could someone please correct me if I’m wrong about how I interpret that?

What makes this interesting to me is that I recall Lazar mentioning things coming in/out of phase (I think it was Lazar) so perhaps our enhancements in radar detection finally caught up to the UAP phenomenon to a degree that we see them much more easily/frequently.

Maybe someone with much better knowledge of radar systems could chime in? It appears the radar in questions wasn’t fully operational in 2007 but is now and has been for a few years... which loosely coincides with the uptick in sightings.

Lastly - maybe the area in the NE that this vast number of radar IDs occur has something to do with the massive “fresh water lake” under the NE Atlantic?

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Good post OP!

The Navy Pilots said not only numerous squadrons in their area were encountering them and talking about it, but other squadrons up and down the coast were as well.

What blows my mind about this whole thing is this...

If I were to fly a personal plane, or a drone or something into military controlled airspace.. their alarms would go off, Id be getting radio'd messages to stand down and exit the airspace, everyone on the ships and in the jets would know, if I didnt leave Id be escorted out, and if I still didnt leave they shoot me down.

The fact that somehow these things were in the airspace, without verifying themselves, and this wasn't a major issue that brought the admiral out of his chair... and generals, and the secretary of defense immediately contacted, and the president immediately briefed.. is mind-blowing.

We get news snippets and media coverage when people fly their propeller parachutes into the wrong area.. or when people fly their 12 inch drones over a fence...

How was this not a MUCH bigger deal to the pilots, radar specialists, the training officers, and the entire command structure...

would unidentified, possibly foreign craft in our military airspace cause a sh**show of alarms and chaos?

originally posted by: Lucidparadox
The Navy Pilots said not only numerous squadrons in their area were encountering them and talking about it, but other squadrons up and down the coast were as well.

What blows my mind about this whole thing is this...

If I were to fly a personal plane, or a drone or something into military controlled airspace.. their alarms would go off, Id be getting radio'd messages to stand down and exit the airspace, everyone on the ships and in the jets would know, if I didnt leave Id be escorted out, and if I still didnt leave they shoot me down.

The fact that somehow these things were in the airspace, without verifying themselves, and this wasn't a major issue that brought the admiral out of his chair... and generals, and the secretary of defense immediately contacted, and the president immediately briefed.. is mind-blowing.

We get news snippets and media coverage when people fly their propeller parachutes into the wrong area.. or when people fly their 12 inch drones over a fence...

How was this not a MUCH bigger deal to the pilots, radar specialists, the training officers, and the entire command structure...

would unidentified, possibly foreign craft in our military airspace cause a sh**show of alarms and chaos?

I 100% agree. I’m not a pilot but isn’t it/wasn’t it true that if you started reporting seeing UAPs or publicly discussing them that was a big no no and could earn you some materials repercussions if you were a commercial/professional/military aviator?

Makes me think TPTB knew about this all along but just now has to start taking it seriously as our tech caught up to being able to track them and now too many people are aware of the phenomenon (tic-tac case aside) to keep a lid on it.

I'm hoping that Zaphod (from the Aircraft forums) chimes in here with his take on the technology behind the AN/APG-79 radar and why it would all of a sudden allow us to detect these things, along with his opinion on what they are.

a reply to: 727Sky

I am a baby boomer who has lived in Norfolk Va all my life and my late father was in the Navy for 24 years. Oceana air Base is located in Virginia Beach and my house is right on the Norfolk/ VaBch border. Military aircraft flying overhead is common...yet I had never heard of these encounters until recently. It just goes to show you that secrets CAN be kept.

The PAVE PAWS phased-array radar system on Cape Cod , Otis AFB, was the first in the world, and has been operational since the 80's. The AN/FPS-115 PAVE PAWS Radar has no moving parts (other than an azimuth mount platform) and can steer electron beams in an x/y configuration. It can be used to track spacecraft as well from the ground.

One can only imagine the things that this equipment has detected.

a reply to: charlyv
AN/SPY is better.
But also subject to spoofing and anomalous propagation. But not as much so as earlier systems, perhaps.

a reply to: Phage

I am sure it is Phage, but this was being built back when I was in the Navy. It was a hush-hush brick back then, but today, I can only wonder at what it has evolved into.

a reply to: charlyv

Zaph?
*looks over shoulder*

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: charlyv

Zaph?
*looks over shoulder*

Yea, I was sure he was going to chime in and was in my head... I did catch it before you I think