CULTURAL APPROPRIATION ideology is political and intellectual poison

a reply to: Malak777
The claim of 'cultural appropriation' is nothing more than a way to accuse someone of racism and/or to virtue signal to other races that you're 'a friend' to their oppressed existence.

Anyone who actually preaches this garbage gets an eye roll and goes down a notch in my book.

a reply to: Samanth9956

72 posts in less than 24 hours...all 72 of them.

Interesting.

Troll much?

Last I knew, america was the great melting pot.

Doesnt that mean to embrace other cultures as our own?
Why is that suddenly a problem?

Just to clear something up that I wrote. I said that Moses and Joseph are not Hebrew names as such. Moses is pretty obvious as an Egyptian name. The similarity between Hotep and Joseph is a source of speculation. Somehow the name seems to be both Egyptian and Hebrew. Was Joseph called Joseph before he was taken to Egypt or did they give him the name Hotep, from which the Hebrews appropriated the name Joseph?

Hotep (ḥtp) is an Egyptian word that roughly translates as "to be at peace". ... Hotep is regularly found in the names of ancient Egyptian figures such as Hotepsekhemwy (ḥr ḥtp-sḫm.wj "the two powers are at peace"), the first ruler of Egypt's Second Dynasty.

Obviously the time the Hebrews spent in Egypt was a defining experience as was the later Babylonian captivity. Exposure means appropriation eventually. We borrow what suits us from those we are exposed to. I make House Music that came from Frankie Knuckles, a Chicago African American and I am a Caucasian person in Britain. I have appropriated culture from Frankie Knuckles and spend most of my time engaged in an activity that came from his brain. Should African America be proud that they are influencing the West this way? Is that not a good thing that helps to bring cohesion to multicultural societies? I think it is a very good and healthy thing that has enriched my life. Chicago is having an influence on Cornwall in Britain. Is that not a very amazing thing?


Franie Knuckles ( a huge influence on modern electronic music globally and universally).

I'm surprised that the woke folk haven't started screaming bloody murder about the fusion food trend. Last I checked, it was still the hot thing to do.

What is fusion except appropriating the cuisines of two or more countries/ethnicities and fusing them together into some kind of frankenfood, usually very tasty frankenfood, but a fused lovechild of the two nonetheless.

originally posted by: dfnj2015
a reply to: Malak777

I have no idea what you are talking about.

Read it again. Other members understand so it appears.

Politics is not a waste of time. Civilization and society depend exclusively on keeping politics BALANCED.

If I could do it I would bring liberalism back into the mainstream as the right depends on its counter weight or it too will go insane. They all go insane eventually. The Aztecs went culturally insane because of isolation in the jungle. Cultural appropriation is LIFE.

Liberalism's big mistake and fall has come from its own descent into extremes of ideology. That is a dangerous place to be. Politically it needs to rebalance and find its own answer to populism now or it will die. I am wanting to return to a kind of mainstream liberalism that will not make an enemy of me, but a friend. I am sure it will be instantly obvious when that happens.

a reply to: Malak777

I think of politics as a giant pendulum that swings back and forth. There has been a huge push on to the left particularly in the culture, and that will absolutely evince an equally huge swing back to the right sooner or later.

The swings seem extreme when they happen but they should keep things relatively balanced on the total.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Malak777

I think of politics as a giant pendulum that swings back and forth. There has been a huge push on to the left particularly in the culture, and that will absolutely evince an equally huge swing back to the right sooner or later.

The swings seem extreme when they happen but they should keep things relatively balanced on the total.

Yes, I totally agree with you.

a reply to: Malak777

Anyone who seriously considers "Cultural Appropriation" to be a "bad thing" is probably a "mental midget".

I agree with you, in case that wasnt clear.

Its becoming more and more obvious who the real racists and cultural xenophobes are, and its not the patriotic right wing conservatives.

originally posted by: 3n19m470
a reply to: Malak777

Anyone who seriously considers "Cultural Appropriation" to be a "bad thing" is probably a "mental midget".

I agree with you, in case that wasnt clear.

Its becoming more and more obvious who the real racists and cultural xenophobes are, and its not the patriotic right wing conservatives.

Cultural appropriation is another Marxist tool in the tool box to attack white people! How many times do you ever see it coming up when it is someone other than white for "appropriating" someones culture?


White people can't be proud of their own heritage nor celebrate it, yet those who love pointing their finger screaming "RACIST", lose their damned minds over white people doing something as simple as opening a taco stand? You know the same as you put it "mental midgets" who have made protesting a national past time so that they can be seen angrily marching in the streets raging while screaming "Love not hate", "Diversity is our strength"?


Honk Honk

a reply to: Samanth9956

What part of you is a good idea? I think by calling him racist you miss the entire premise of his post and the point he was trying to make. Also by labeling people, you open yourself up to being labeled. Thats how that works ya see. That and the very word racist is used by people with weak minds and no understanding of what the actual word implies. It has lost meaning and action since its been used repeatedly by most whom do not understand the concept of culturalism and tribalism....those are not racism. I direct you to Dr Seuss and the star bellied sneeches as a fine example, what the sneeches experienced was not racism, rather it was a cultural issue. Problem is we are all the same, and I despise everyone equally.

Be careful with labels, you might not like being labeled. Its a ridiculous process that dumbs down the animals who take flight to it. And lets be honest, humans are animals. Evidence of that is everywhere.

a reply to: Bluntone22

IN the past you'd have to assimilate when you immigrate. They dont do that now and it shows. They want all the benefit of America without having to conform to a new culture. Then they lazily force their own cultural taboos and the like which doesn't vibe generally with the original citizens of this country. Its manners really, now and days most of them dont display any courtesy to the country they would propose to immigrate. They dont assimilate to better produce as a citizen of a system here long before they arrived. Thats just rude.

Learning from and sharing with other cultures is a fact of life, not a moral crime. These SJWs simply do not like reality.

Trump and Melania are as American as the Statue of Liberty yet they both are only recently appropriated from Slovenia and Germany.

Melania is a foreigner. She's as American as the Nile River.

Man...

Cultural Appropriation is used by the Left as a baseball bat to smack everyone with, especially white folks.

If you are not an American Indian and you wear a head dress, you are downplaying the original intent and thereby degrading or marginalizing the minority faction. (just an example of one definition)

It is the biggest bunch of stupidity I have ever seen.

Keep in mind that these are the same people that cry themselves to sleep at night about inclusiveness. A modicum of critical thought should clearly tell a reasonable individual that identitarian politics, intersectionality and the promotion of cultural appropriation theory are the antithesis of inclusivity.

I also like to demand when coming across these types in person that they promptly remove their pants since the practice of wearing pants was appropriated from nomadic central Asian cultures.

a reply to: ketsuko

The debate on the superior style of BBQ is pretty hot indeed, I think the folks of Memphis may be annoyed that I appropriate their dry rub and KC style sauce for my pulled pork...even though I live in the Carolina area. I must be a monster for internal US regional cultural appropriation.

Further on topic, the main thing that comes to mind is the instance of the museum with the Kimono display, where actual women from Japan encouraged others to try the garment and appreciate it. While the non-Japanese protested what they were doing was cultural appropriation. Heck the Japanese Kimono industry is trying to spread the garment worldwide, because not only do they enjoy spreading the culture, they also enjoy the money brought in by purchase of the garment. They've largely been unsuccessful in their endeavor, because horror of horrors, an American of any other heritage other than Japanese is viewed as a monster trying to bastardize the Japanese culture.

Makes my dang head hurt thinking of what the mindset has to be behind this.

a reply to: Hypntick

Shame too because kimonos are comfy garments. I own one I wore for a costumed LARP.

a reply to: ketsuko

My wife wore one to our wedding, as we had a traditional Japanese style wedding, because we really enjoyed the way the ceremony went. So we're super duper cultural appropriators, because of course we're both about as white as you can get. If you appreciate something and give it the respect it deserves, heck finding new ways to do something (fusion cooking) that doesn't undermine the original, I fail to see a problem.

That's just my privilege showing I'm sure...

Most everything is.