Notre Dame on fire in Paris

a reply to: djz3ro

It was a few years back though not a few days howeever....Today she was sentenced. But yes, it was because of a planned terror attack.

a reply to: vinifalou

Symbolic of the torching of Christendom and Western Civilization. Kind of Apocalyptic in a way.

Many will mourn her passing; many more will secretly celebrate.

Wiki

Let's be honest. If something happened at the Kaabah around Mecca during the annual pilgrimage like this, people would be suspicious too that it was some kind of arson or attack even if there was reason to believe it could easily be an accident.

originally posted by: JBurns
a reply to: kerrichin

In the UK they have even jailed folks for reporting on mass sex crimes committed by refugees who see women as their personal property

No, in the U.K. Stephen Yaxley Lennon was jailed after admitting he risked the case against a bunch of pedophiles by breaking the law to further his own agenda. And that has nothing to do with the likely accidental fire we see here...

a reply to: RetsuUnohana

But this thread isnt about that. Thats the point. This is about a fire to an historic irreplaceable structure.
Has zero to do with the population makeup of France. Go spread your arab hate somewhere else please.

originally posted by: ketsuko
Let's be honest. If something happened at the Kaabah around Mecca during the annual pilgrimage like this, people would be suspicious too that it was some kind of arson or attack even if there was reason to believe it could easily be an accident.

Let's be really honest, no they wouldn't, it would likely be presumed accidental and investigated to find the truth. This paranoia doesn't run both ways...

a reply to: vinifalou

WOW..........so much history and art. They say millions visit every year. I feel for the people of France. Think about owning a restaurant or small tourist business near here. You are watching your livelihood going up in flames. Sad very sad.

originally posted by: matafuchs
a reply to: djz3ro

It was a few years back though not a few days howeever....Today she was sentenced. But yes, it was because of a planned terror attack.

So that's likely a coincidence. A few days would actually be suspicious.

a reply to: loam

Why would that matter as to cause?
I mean thats horrible if true but intentional or accident doesn't effect the response time does it?

originally posted by: djz3ro

originally posted by: ketsuko
Let's be honest. If something happened at the Kaabah around Mecca during the annual pilgrimage like this, people would be suspicious too that it was some kind of arson or attack even if there was reason to believe it could easily be an accident.

Let's be really honest, no they wouldn't, it would likely be presumed accidental and investigated to find the truth. This paranoia doesn't run both ways...

In terms of ATS, Ket's right, most people on here would be suspicious of intent. I don't know if she was referring to ATS alone or not, though.

a reply to: Nyiah

ATS - We'd be having a discussion similar to this one.

originally posted by: ketsuko
Let's be honest. If something happened at the Kaabah around Mecca during the annual pilgrimage like this, people would be suspicious too that it was some kind of arson or attack even if there was reason to believe it could easily be an accident.

If it were found that certain people were involved, it might have an effect on the EU elections next month. I see a cover up taking place. This is suspicious to me, especially with the 16 bronze statues just removed a few days ago.

a reply to: olaru12

smile through the tears

if this was intentional, may their souls feel the hollow.

i'm inclined to speculate that this was due to error rather than intent until proven otherwise.

sadly, if the roof bracings and trusses fail, there is a possibility that the flying buttresses will

impose a loading to the upper walls between reveals. add heat and the traditional bondings

will fail. it may end up sawtoothed.

sad.

f.

originally posted by: djz3ro

originally posted by: ketsuko
Let's be honest. If something happened at the Kaabah around Mecca during the annual pilgrimage like this, people would be suspicious too that it was some kind of arson or attack even if there was reason to believe it could easily be an accident.

Let's be really honest, no they wouldn't, it would likely be presumed accidental and investigated to find the truth. This paranoia doesn't run both ways...

And no one has even brought up a possibility of anything untoward in the regular coverage either. So far, this is just likely a construction incident. They won't really know until they investigate, and even then, we may not really know or believe them because this is ATS. Look at how people treat 9/11 even today.

originally posted by: kerrichin

originally posted by: JBurns
a reply to: kerrichin

No doubt about it... especially in Europe, attacks by muslim refugees on christians and others are frequently covered up and swept under the rug

In the UK they have even jailed folks for reporting on mass sex crimes committed by refugees who see women as their personal property

Seems a pretty extreme and fast growing fire for an accident

You mean, as opposed to all the other accidental fires that occur all over the world on a daily basis?

I can't find anything to verify there was an attempted attack 3 days ago. However, a woman was arrested 3 YRS ago trying to blow up the Notre Dame cathedral and was SENTENCED 3 days ago.

I find that just as suspicious. A fire ruins the Cathedral 3 days after being sentenced!

*** In response to Sublimecraft.

a reply to: RetsuUnohana

They remove and replace artifacts and relics depending on the time of the year. They were most likely removing some statues and relics to make way for Easter related ones.

a reply to: LightSpeedDriver

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.