On: The Mechanics of Politics

truth is, democracy is not an option, democracy is inevitable.

There is Democracy in Principle, aka as a form of government in which an informed and united populace work together as equals by agreeing to live together and provide for each other. Yet, EVERY government is a democracy... because EVERY form of government relies upon the popuace, though the more sinister of them use the populace as a MECHANISM, a tool to manufacture consent. This is Democracy in Action and it takes many forms; as many forms as there are states of balance between people.

Therefore, Do Not Say, that we do not live in a democracy. wherever there is a sciety, there is a democracy... and it is each citizens utmost duty to work together to uphold this maxim for the benefit of all, that we may safeguard mankind through our infancy and not let things like ancestral trauma and literally "invasive" corruption to rule us any longer.

It is in this spirit i would like to challenge the notion that words on the internet can solve nothing, by inviting you, each of you, to discuss with me and each other here. Now, I know we are all just people /on the internet with various levels of "real" connection. Not to downplay the importance of intellectual communication as we share here but to be perfectly frank, I have barely met any of you who will be reading these words, amd im not the best at keeping contact with those i have. I regret both of those very much.

And yet it just goes to show how important dialogue is in defining interactions between people. Now, i dont mean Dialogue in the strict sense of conversation, but rather, dialogue as highlights the more... unspoken, aspects of interaction, the narrative subtext, aka the defining nature of theb interation itself. theres no conversation i love more than one which explores the unique nature of the situation, tone, and climate of our interaction, and working together as conscious beings to decide whether to follow the mind and world generated script, or create something new in its place. Imagine reading a book where the characters analyzed themselves and their world, seemingly able to hear the thoughts of the author as he penned their story.

I'm sure the North Korean people, collectively embrace their democracy. Growing grass as a vegetable simply screams out, "freedom"!

Please understand this... those of us in the United States; we do not live in a Democracy. Not at all...

We live in a Constitutional Republic. There are significant differences.

All true democracies, eventually fall to socialism/collectivism/communism.

For instance, if we elected our President by popular vote, California/New York/Illinois would effectively rule the executive branch. The Electoral College gives all states equal footing. That is why the liberals are so damned desperate to eliminate it...

Our Constitution is brilliantly written... changing any letter of it in the name of "democracy", should be a mortal sin.

EDIT TO ADD: Anyone demanding the Constitution be changed... they should be swiftly, and forcefully kicked in the junk. Twice.

a reply to: LucidWarrior

Modern democracy is a farce:



People think they are expressing their own views but it's regurgitated propaganda:



The news has been cancelled.

a reply to: madmac5150

How do you feel about the Patriot Act?

a reply to: madmac5150

Voting on representatives is both intellectually lazy and dishonest. The Constitution IS brilliantly writtn... But i think our Founding Fathers would be horrified at the #ing Noose which the People have turned it into and hung themselves with.

Besides, you seem to be operating under the assumption that Im referring to the meaning of Democracy which looks like people stubbornly refusing to sway their opinions based on any sort of reason and communication and therefore needing people to mediate for them and then want to whine about corruption in politics.

a reply to: dfnj2015

pardon the crude expression, but "No #, Sherlock."

Fom my OP "EVERY government is a democracy... because EVERY form of government relies upon the popuace, though the more sinister of them use the populace as a MECHANISM, a tool to manufacture consent.

Democracy is any form or level of (non) government because any such necessarily relies upon the majority to become enacted.

originally posted by: LucidWarrior
a reply to: dfnj2015

pardon the crude expression, but "No #, Sherlock."

Fom my OP "EVERY government is a democracy... because EVERY form of government relies upon the popuace, though the more sinister of them use the populace as a MECHANISM, a tool to manufacture consent".

Actually, I think we have a one-party centralized communist style type government in this country. The billionaires pay the lobbyists to encourage the politicians to pass laws creating cartels and monopolies in exchange for campaign financing. We have communism in this country it's just that it's not the kind of communism that is in the worker's favor. What we have is CORPORATE COMMUNISM.

All the pricing fixing of products, services, and wages are in the favor of the corporate shareholders, that is, the billionaires. The American people are just screwed every which way. Game over man. George Carlin said best:



It's never going to get better. The system is rigged. Politics is a complete waste of time.

a reply to: dfnj2015

politics is NOT a complete waste of tim, Politics is lterally the nature of interaction between people.War, peace, unity, subjugation... all different facets of Politics.

Ill go ahead and use the ageold counter to your argument. It doesnt matter how many laws they pass, the majority has to be onboard or at least shepherded. or else there would be nothing to govern. So saying that theres nothing the american poeple can do is so back asswards im liable to question either your motive or intelligence.

this is to the both of ya:

the worst kind of democracy is tyranny, because this means the populace has, by fear, laziness or otherwise, disbanded and left the rule of their country to the hands of the few.

Do you want to know the real reason why america is so "corrupt"? its because the People have tacitly accepted the fact that politics is something seperate to the self, and that politicians, though inevitably corrupt, must be constrained rather than controlled. we vote on the laws they pass amongst themselves. and we wonder why spending is so high, why self interest is so rampant.

only question is, did this kind of entitlement-laziness relationship emerge from corporatism, or preceed it?