What The F Am I?

originally posted by: WanderingMrM

originally posted by: kelbtalfenek
a reply to: WanderingMrM

Well either you're schizo, or you can see through the veil.

The veil? Do you mean the void?

The veil of false perception:

a reply to: Nothin

While it is true that are realitys are a constrct of our perceptions of it, doesn't it also make sense that what we percieve is infact that what is actually happening?

As in we'd best just deal with it?

a reply to: WanderingMrM

All souls have divine potential.

From what I have learned it is that about 10% of souls connected to human bodies living that have proven they are wise enough to leave this level of consciousness.

originally posted by: surfer_soul
a reply to: Nothin

While it is true that are realitys are a constrct of our perceptions of it, doesn't it also make sense that what we percieve is infact that what is actually happening?

As in we'd best just deal with it?

Very good questions!
Can you imagine that sometimes the answers, are not a good as the questions?

This pernicious, pervasive reality.
Toothaches! How can anyone deny the throbbing pain of a toothache?

We sit here, engaging in this exchange, this site, this life, this supposed reality.
Why do so, if it's not real?
Maybe we're only here for distraction and entertainment?

Like you and the OP: have more questions than answers.
(Am kinda suspicious of those whom have more answers than questions, LoL.)

Well, anyways, here goes nothing.

Have been examining beliefs of others, in the hope that it may shed light on any lingering beliefs, that may still be hiding here with me.
Was hoping to find others here, also willing to examine their own beliefs.


Question consensual-reality?

From the realm of science: we have PHD Theoretical Physicists, and Nobel laureates: Niels Bohr, and Werner Heisenberg, whom heartily questioned consensual-reality;

Now listen to Niels Bohr, the pioneer of 20th century physics:
An independent reality, in the ordinary physical sense, can neither be ascribed to the phenomena nor to the agencies of observation. [3]
Consider the words of Shankara, the famous Hindu philosopher: All things -- from Brahma the creator down to a single blade of grass -- are. . .simply appearances and not real. [4]
Compare with Werner Heisenberg, the inventor of quantum mechanics: If one wants to give an accurate description of the elementary particle. . .the only thing which can be written down as description is a probability function. But then one sees that not even the quality of being. . .belongs to what is described

Source: Quantum Mechanics, and reality


From the realm of Metaphysics: We have the ideas of Pardeep, (Thanks to JimNasium for the link)

RELATIVE TRUTH
Spiritual paradigm Being becoming Ocean (of energy) becoming waves Perspective as ego mind False

ABSOLUTE TRUTH Metaphysical paradigm Being dreaming becoming Movie 'appearing' on a screen Perspective as the Self
true Creation

Creation of a world within spirit or energy.
No creation The world of forms is imagined in indivisible consciousness. No world is ever created. No world truly exists as an objective reality independent of consciousness.

Transformation Modification of spirit or energy (one substance modifying and transforming into another) resulting in a world of constant change.

No transformation Any perceived transformations are only imagined as there is no material in indivisible consciousness for any substance to modify or transform into another. i.e. Steam to water to ice.

Space Physical space within which a world can exist

No space Since consciousness is a non-spatial spiritual reality, as in your dreams during sleep, space is imagined within your consciousness to perceive an objective world (life story).

(Sorry but that didn't transcribe well. Please view the table from the link provided, if so inclined.)
Link: Absolute vs. Relative Truth

From the realm of Philosophy, we have Descartes' 'Cogito Ergo Sum', ('Il Cogito', destroyer of Maya, or better known as the: "I think, therefore I am"), as described here by Jed McKenna:
Everything you need to know
(Sorry, but ain't nobody can get me to believe in nothin after that! LoL)

Und from the realm of pop-culture and other stuffs:

Albert Einstein Quotes. Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one.

Everything you can imagine is real. – Pablo Picasso

“I believe in everything until it's disproved. So I believe in fairies, the myths, dragons. It all exists, even if it's in your mind. Who's to say that dreams and nightmares aren't as real as the here and now?” ? John Lennon

“Reality is frequently inaccurate.” ? Douglas Adams, The Restaurant at the End of the Universe

“Deep in the human unconscious is a pervasive need for a logical universe that makes sense. But the real universe is always one step beyond logic.” ? Frank Herbert, Dune

originally posted by: surfer_soul
a reply to: WanderingMrM

You are not the messiah you’re a very naughty boy.

Oh come on, how naughty could I have been?

Also do you mean I'm the other side of the coin?

originally posted by: ManyMasks
a reply to: WanderingMrM

will i meet the beautiful shiny black skinned flowing woman from the void again?

Um... I'd stay away from her if I was you!

a reply to: WanderingMrM

Why? And a source would be great....

a reply to: dfnj2015

That's how Jung visited the spiritual realm.

originally posted by: Nothin

originally posted by: schuyler

originally posted by: Nothin

originally posted by: WanderingMrM
This question has been on my mind countless times, through the 26 years of my current life and yet I still can not piece it together!

Who or What am I?

Also please don't just say "Find Jesus"...

I want a proper explanation as to what is happening, believe it or not I have a suspicion that I might be being trained/prepared for something. However, that would be an overstatement and way too egotistical!

Does anyone have any clue what I am or why this is happening to me?

Does anybody truly know 'who or what' they are?
If not: then how could they tell you what you are?

Do you think the universe cares about what you want?

There's a lot of evidence that the universe is indifferent to our existence, but OP was not asking the universe. Should we just stop inquiring because the universe doesn't care? I guess we can all go home now.

The 'universe doesn't care about what you want' phrase, was not about the original self-inquiry, but in reference to the: ..."...I want a proper explanation..."... part.

Would have been clearer if the two phrases were separated into different quotes, and my comments were below the intended parts. Sorry for causing any confusion.

The point remains. Don't we all want an explanation? I know I do, but I'm not epecting "the universe" to provide it, nor was he. Sorry for causing any confusion.

originally posted by: WanderingMrM
Who or What am I?

A troll. If you are God you would not be asking.

If you have experienced daemons, i assume you can speak Latin. If yes, what have they told you ? Like the fact that they are in complete control of world events.

Also a daemon knows what the angel prison feels like and why the film Constantine with (keanu Reeves) is so damn close to the truth, as to why all you hear in the Lake of Fire, is the wind and the flames, even though every sinner is screaming in pain.
i assume visions / dreams have told you why ?

originally posted by: WanderingMrM

originally posted by: ManyMasks
a reply to: WanderingMrM

will i meet the beautiful shiny black skinned flowing woman from the void again?

Um... I'd stay away from her if I was you!

Coward.....

ManyMask seems to have more balls than you mate.

Oh, so many visions, yet afraid of a incubbus / female daemon / banshee (female Raphah) / witch / drow (lol), etc.

With such a Grand OP opening post, yet running away from a female negative entity.

Some of us are damned to know what hell feels like, hence the Gospel of Jesus Christ is vital to ones survival; others, are full of the maggot filled excrement that Jesus left behind, when He removed all good spirit from Sheol on the Day He rose from His Tomb.

originally posted by: schuyler

originally posted by: Nothin

originally posted by: schuyler

originally posted by: Nothin

originally posted by: WanderingMrM
This question has been on my mind countless times, through the 26 years of my current life and yet I still can not piece it together!

Who or What am I?

Also please don't just say "Find Jesus"...

I want a proper explanation as to what is happening, believe it or not I have a suspicion that I might be being trained/prepared for something. However, that would be an overstatement and way too egotistical!

Does anyone have any clue what I am or why this is happening to me?

Does anybody truly know 'who or what' they are?
If not: then how could they tell you what you are?

Do you think the universe cares about what you want?

There's a lot of evidence that the universe is indifferent to our existence, but OP was not asking the universe. Should we just stop inquiring because the universe doesn't care? I guess we can all go home now.

The 'universe doesn't care about what you want' phrase, was not about the original self-inquiry, but in reference to the: ..."...I want a proper explanation..."... part.

Would have been clearer if the two phrases were separated into different quotes, and my comments were below the intended parts. Sorry for causing any confusion.

The point remains. Don't we all want an explanation? I know I do, but I'm not epecting "the universe" to provide it, nor was he. Sorry for causing any confusion.

By all means: continue your inquiring, if you feel it.

Don't think that we all want an explanation, for various reasons.
Some folks think they've already got everything all figured-out, and are not shy in telling others what's what.
Personally don't want any explanations, as alluded-to earlier in this thread.

Has the OP abandoned us?

originally posted by: WanderingMrM

Also please don't just say "Find Jesus"...

I want a proper explanation as to what is happening, believe it or not I have a suspicion that I might be being trained/prepared for something.

I think some are Watched for Spiritual maturity-advancement here by as my friend would say higher-ups... As you continue to mature and keep control of that ego (avoiding feeling special) and remembering "the cake is a lie" you may begin to unlock many of the secrets kept from the general masses related to objective reality and maybe some Angels and or E.T.

I have always felt if some do become more "active" with abilities that can mimic God like abilities they are also potentially inheriting some major responsibilities...
Responsibilities that may involve guiding/protecting those masses still unaware and in maturity phases or courses you may have completed and ascended beyond.

Or you are a alien and or GOD incarnated being prepared for your responsibilities.

Either way my advice would be to do your best to resonate on higher Spiritual frequencies and hopefully continue to illuminate many lost in darkness and don't let your energy be manipulated by those outer ones you speak of for their negative or malevolent gain.

NAMASTE*******

a reply to: WanderingMrM

Ps
This website may be part of the process 😎🤔😉

WanderingMrM , what is your blood type?
Supposedly indigo children or starseed have indefinable blood type.

Great question. I have been searching for the same thing for 20 years of my life and just want to share what I found. Hopefully what follows helps you on your journey:

WHO ARE YOU?

People will try to answer this for you in all kinds of ways and some will say that not even you can answer it. While that might be true let me say this. Picture yourself at sea tossed and turned by all these opinions of who you are. With every storm that comes in life you try harder and harder to find you place in this vast ocean we call reality only to find little answers. One the storms calm and the chaos of the ocean resides until your heart is silent and you feel the vastness of all you are and recognize for the first time you are the ocean itself. Sound ridiculous, let me put it to you this way.

He who looks outside dreams. He who looks inside awakens.

Prepare yourself. The Bible is about to come into play but not what you think or Christianity. I want to show you just how infused, inseparable and indistinguishable you are from God for a moment like a wave on the ocean.

The Bible tells us that God knew us before we were born (Jeremiah 1:5), knit us together in our mother’s womb (Psalm 139:13), made our human bodies his sacred temple (1 Corinthians 3:16), set up the kingdom of heaven therein (Luke 17:21 kjv) where Jesus Christ sits (Ephesians 1:20), as the Word (John 1), which is very near us (Deuteronomy 30:14), apart from which we could do nothing (John 15:5), including, read, write, talk, know, understand, think, or reason.

Truly the created and the creator are one and we are all in this together. Once you realize you are a part of God like a piece in a giant jigsaw puzzle we call humanity and that he is a part of you reality takes on a whole new form and meaning. You are in God and God is in you right from the get go.

WHAT YOU ARE?

This can be tough but I will do my best. You where born with a divided mind in a world of endless polarity of good against evil, light against darkness, right verse wrong and on and on it goes. Our natural tendency is to choose one side over the other like light over dark or dark over light. But the result of this free will between these two opposing forces is always the same. Division within ourselves and the rest of humanity and cause all kinds of conflict and wars and even death and suicide. Look at the moon and tell me which side of it is the true light. Neither right? The moon is a dead star that is only a reflection of the true light which is the sun. Jesus said "Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the way that leads to destruction and many are those that go by it. but narrow is the way that leads to life and few there be that find it." To illustrate this point perfectly go grab a quarter and hold it out in front of you. Notice the polarity between heads and tails and tell me which side is the wide side heads or tails. Both right? Either way you choose you lose. But if thats the case what other option have we.

Does it not take 3 dimensions to have one coin? And for the first time we turn the coin on its edge and notice the 3rd side and narrow gate Jesus mentioned. It is found inside the illusion of duality. Confirmation of God playing both side of the coin can be found in the Bile. Isaiah 45:7:

I form the light and create darkness, I make peace and create evil. I the Lord do all these things.

Once you realize all this "Even the dark will not be dark to you. The sun will shine like the day. Fo darkness is as light to God" The psalms tell us.

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Lots more I could say but apologize that this post got so long. Best of luck and feel free to hit me up with any questions or if you want clarification on anything.

a reply to: MagicKey

Good first post.
The allure of duality indeed.

Welcome to ATS.

They like it when new members make an intro thread.
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originally posted by: WanderingMrM
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3. Prophetic dreams.
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10. Experienced events in a dream only to find them as headlines in a newspaper the very next morning (both possible as the causer and not preventing them).
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A recent edition of The New Encyclopædia Britannica admitted: “Even in so-called modern times, in a day when objective evidence is highly valued, there are few people who would not, if pressed, admit to cherishing secretly one or two irrational beliefs or superstitions.”

The book Lest Ill Luck Befall Thee observes that superstition was developed in an effort “to pry into the future.” So today, just as throughout history, common folk and world leaders alike consult fortune-tellers and others who profess magical powers (including the power of prediction/art of prediction). For example, superstition was part of the religion of those who inhabited the land of Canaan prior to the Israelites. The Bible says that it was the custom of the Canaanites to employ divination, practice magic, rely on omens or sorcery, bind others with spells, consult spirit mediums and professional foretellers of events, and inquire of the dead.—Deuteronomy 18:9-12.

The ancient Greeks too were noted for superstitions connected with their religion. They believed in oracles, divination, and magic, much as the Canaanites did. The Babylonians would look into the liver of an animal, believing it would reveal the course of action they should take. (Ezekiel 21:21) They were also noted for their gambling and would look for help from what the Bible refers to as “the god of Good Luck.” (Isaiah 65:11)

Professor Stuart A. Vyse says: “Superstition and belief in the paranormal are well-integrated features of our culture . . . because our contemporary world has heightened our sense of uncertainty.”

Can superstitions harm you? Some might dismiss this notion or minimize the danger. Still, in his book Believing in Magic—The Psychology of Superstition, Professor Stuart A. Vyse warns: “Superstition could lead to diminished quality of life if one spends large sums of money on psychics, fortunetellers, numerologists, or Tarot-card readers, or if one’s superstitious rituals help to maintain problem gambling.” Allowing superstition to rule our lives can have far more serious consequences.

A dangerous source:

At Acts 16:16-19, the sacred record reports that “a certain servant girl” in the ancient city of Philippi furnished her masters with much gain by her “art of prediction.” The account plainly says, however, that the source of her predictions was, not the almighty Creator, but “a demon of divination.” Hence, when the apostle Paul expelled the demon, the servant girl lost her powers of prediction.

When we understand that such predictions come from a demonic source, we see why God’s Law to Israel stated: “There should not be found in you . . . anyone who employs divination, a practicer of magic or anyone who looks for omens or a sorcerer, or one who binds others with a spell or anyone who consults a spirit medium or a professional foreteller of events . . . For everybody doing these things is something detestable to Jehovah.” (Deuteronomy 18:10-12) In fact, the Law made such practices a capital offense.—Leviticus 19:31; 20:6.

It may surprise you to learn that evil forces are behind many seemingly harmless superstitious practices. Yet, the Bible says that Satan ‘transforms himself into an angel of light.’ (2 Corinthians 11:14) Satan and the demons under his control can make dangerous practices appear harmless, even beneficial. At times, they may fabricate portents and make them come true, deceiving onlookers into thinking that such omens are from God. (Compare Matthew 7:21-23; 2 Thessalonians 2:9-12.) This explains why some predictions made by those claiming special powers at times come true.

Of course, many, if not most, who claim special powers are fakes, mere charlatans, out to bilk money from the unwary. But whether fakes or otherwise, they are all effectively used by Satan to turn people against Jehovah, blinding them to “the glorious good news.”—2 Corinthians 4:3, 4:

3 If, in fact, the good news we declare is veiled, it is veiled among those who are perishing, 4 among whom the god of this system of things* [Or “this age.” See Glossary.] has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, so that the illumination* [Or “light.”] of the glorious good news about the Christ, who is the image of God, might not shine through.

originally posted by: Nothin
a reply to: MagicKey

Good first post.
The allure of duality indeed.

Welcome to ATS.

They like it when new members make an intro thread.
Follow this link: reading the ATS thread, that even has a direct link to start your intro thread!

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This first post is extra, extra XXX deep - HEY! WTF am I. Who am I. What am I. Why am I. Am I?