Do You Disagree With Mr. President ?

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: infolurker
a reply to: Blue_Jay33

I think Obama said it right:

LOL, that's exactly what Trump wants.

I think you misunderstand. Trump's actions speak far louder than his rhetoric. He has sought to block legal entry several times and in different ways.

Immigration policy of Donald Trump From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

a reply to: Blue_Jay33





[Verse 1]
There is freedom within, there is freedom without
Try to catch a deluge in a paper cup
There's a battle ahead, many battles are lost
But you'll never see the end of the road while you're traveling with me

[Chorus]
Hey now, hey now, don't dream it's over
Hey now, hey now, when the world comes in
They come, they come to build a wall between us
We know they won't win

[Verse 2]
Now I'm towing my car, there's a hole in the roof
My possessions are causing me suspicion but there's no proof
In the paper today, tales of war and of waste
But you turn right over to the TV page

[Chorus]
Hey now, hey now, don't dream it's over
Hey now, hey now, when the world comes in
They come, they come to build a wall between us
We know they won't win

[Verse 3]
Now I'm walking again to the beat of a drum
And I'm counting the steps to the door of your heart
Only shadows ahead, barely clearing the roof
Get to know the feeling of liberation and release

[Chorus]
Hey now, hey now, don't dream it's over
Hey now, hey now, when the world comes in
They come, they come to build a wall between us
You know they won't win

[Outro]
Don't let them win
Hey now, hey now
Hey now, hey now
Hey now, hey now
Don't let them win
They come, they come
Don't let them win
Hey now, hey now (yeah)
Hey now, hey now

originally posted by: Blue_Jay33

originally posted by: Admitted
Except he never says anything about a wall. Just changing laws, which everyone wants.

What do you do when you try something and it fails to solve the problem, you try another solution, I am not going to doubt that Clinton & Obama didn't at least try a little bit to stop this.

Have a look at this video of the wall replacing a simple X barricade to stop it.

Yeah, look at all that empty desert.

They should probably build some dams, too, to hold back the flood waters.

originally posted by: projectvxn
Keeping America safe shouldn't be a political football. But power matters more than country.

For a country that is supposed to be the most militarily powerful in the world, you sure talk scared.

originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: Blue_Jay33

Very pertinent. Cheers.

(and an NZ band, I worked with them once back when they were "The Mullanes", before Crowded House, too).

a reply to: chr0naut

His base wants secure borders. He is trying to get secure borders. I already know your delusions about immigration (a guy who lives on a friggin island) Here in the real world, we have more than crustaceans invading our borders. Enforcing our laws just seems like a right, not a privilege.

a reply to: chr0naut

For a country that is supposed to be the most militarily powerful in the world, you sure talk scared.

Nice try.

originally posted by: projectvxn
a reply to: chr0naut

For a country that is supposed to be the most militarily powerful in the world, you sure talk scared.

Nice try.

Oh, that reminds me, I could go fishing!

Thanks.

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: chr0naut

His base wants secure borders. He is trying to get secure borders. I already know your delusions about immigration (a guy who lives on a friggin island) Here in the real world, we have more than crustaceans invading our borders. Enforcing our laws just seems like a right, not a privilege.

You could hide in the basement, too.

a reply to: Blue_Jay33

Border security is what the dems want and allways have.

The propaganda coming from the right tries to make people believe that this isn't true or that the dems suddenly changed their minds because of trump.

Here is a pdf of what bill clinton wanted to do assets.documentcloud.org...

The only thing that comes close to a "wall" for the dems was the 2006 secure fence act that called for 700 miles of fence.
www.govtrack.us...

And that fence act passed.

a reply to: thedigirati

The dems already said yes for 1.6 billion dollars for border security.

Trump was the one that said no.

originally posted by: Admitted
Except he never says anything about a wall. Just changing laws, which everyone wants.

Which laws does everyone want changed?

a reply to: Alien Abduct

read it here.

assets.documentcloud.org...

[MOD NOTE: link is a PDF file]

a reply to: Blue_Jay33

its against the law to enter a border illegally.
i would say most of us would agree.
but there is too much fear and paranoia. the weak against the weakest. kind of sad. most of these 'illegals' are just people, no monsters.

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originally posted by: scraedtosleep
a reply to: Blue_Jay33

Border security is what the dems want and allways have.

The propaganda coming from the right tries to make people believe that this isn't true or that the dems suddenly changed their minds because of trump.

Here is a pdf of what bill clinton wanted to do assets.documentcloud.org...

The only thing that comes close to a "wall" for the dems was the 2006 secure fence act that called for 700 miles of fence.
www.govtrack.us...

And that fence act passed.

why? Why did that pass? What good would a barrier do?