Will the wall stop illegals?

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Allaroundyou

If cheaper and more effective means are available, then why haven't they ever been used?

Fact is,, the wall would be a permanent solution and that terrifies the Uniparty in DC.

Err here is a cheap and fare more effective solution.

Just make it impossible for Illegals to claim welfare and slap massive fines on businesses that hire them and draconian prison sentences on people that hire them.

If there is no money for them to come for, they wont come.

If the wall won't work, then why are you so scared of it?

originally posted by: Unruhestifter

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Allaroundyou

If cheaper and more effective means are available, then why haven't they ever been used?

Fact is,, the wall would be a permanent solution and that terrifies the Uniparty in DC.

Err here is a cheap and fare more effective solution.

Just make it impossible for Illegals to claim welfare and slap massive fines on businesses that hire them and draconian prison sentences on people that hire them.

If there is no money for them to come for, they wont come.

why cant we do that too? along with the wall?

And not that im a star and flag whore (ps whore me)

But the fact that NO ONE has aknowledged what i said speaks volumes........

Numbers and math bad!

a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

Wrong person sorry. The reply was meant for Unruhestifter

a reply to: Unruhestifter

Why not go the whole hog, get some brown shirts, and have your very own Night of the Long Knives? LoL

You dont think people will find a way of making monies, yes lets just marginalize and pigeonhole the poor sods even more.

4 letter word them all to death eh?

Well done Mr. Garrison, problem solved.

a reply to: andy06shake

Britain's fence costing millions at the port of Calais in France is doing a good job keeping that rabble off the ferries.
Would you let those thousands of men into the UK, they are refusing to claim asylum in France because they want to enter Britain illegally.
I wouldn't let them in.
I support the US defending its border just like the UK does. Our border force are actually on French soil keeping the criminals out. Big ass fences paid for by Britain. I support current UK policy, and support the US doing similar.

Let's make all walls illegal throughout the entire country. After all, they don't work, right?

originally posted by: toms54
Let's make all walls illegal throughout the entire country. After all, they don't work, right?

fences make good neighbors

a reply to: JAGStorm



Total nonsense as I have said it at least 10 billion times.

To stop this “illegal migrations” and its ever growing “stupid nagging”..

United States should be brave for once and offer the same livelihood to the entire American continent ” both south and north”, in this way there won’t be any illegal migrants.

Remove those damn walls/borders and let the people move around in “natural way”. Even animals moves freely without any restrictions, why shouldn’t humans do the same?

originally posted by: toms54
If the wall won't work, then why are you so scared of it?

Nobody's scared of the wall. I'm personally scared for our future, because of the number of people who think it'll be effective. It'll be as useful as tits on a fish. There will still be tunnels, boats, planes, and work visas. They will still get here.

The true solution is to make it easier, faster, and cheaper for someone to become a legal citizen.

a reply to: Qboneqwell that all sounds good "but" call me selfish or what ever you want to call me, I'm already supporting welfare and feeding my family on $22.30...are you willing to cut your wages or better yet just let somebody else have your job at minimum wage.
Opening the borders looks like one more mouth to have to feed. Or worse yet why should they keep me around when they have snowflakes willing to work for $2.50......
Quality, value, styles, service, selection, convenience, economy savings, performance, experience, hospitality, low rates, friendly service, name brands, easy terms, affordable prices, money-back guarantee, free installation.
Free admission, free appraisal, free alterations, free delivery, free estimates, free home trial, and free parking.
No cash? No problem. No kidding, no fuss, no muss, no risk, no obligation, no red tape, no down payment, no entry fee, no hidden charges, no purchase necessary, no one will call on you, no payments of interest till September.
Limited time only though so act now, order today, send no money, offer good while supplies last, two to a customer, each item sold separately, batteries not included, mileage may vary, all sales are final, allow 6 weeks for delivery, some items not available, some assembly required, some restrictions may apply
Come on in for a free demonstration and a free consultation with our friendly professional staff.

a reply to: LordAhriman

If nobody's scared of the wall, the true solution is to make it bigger, stronger, higher, and more costly to try to cross.

originally posted by: Starhooker
a reply to: mysterioustranger

Until the cartel moves in next door to you. I'm sure they feel the same as you. At least lettuce would still be cheap.

Ok...before you jump in my face...I know prob more about security issues than you can ever guess. But, I have a Security Clearance to consider...and with that, train, prepare and are kept abreast of things we've not threaded about here...and never will.

If everyone knew of the threats, possibilities, probabilities and those thwarted EVERY DAY...the world would be surprised because by nature, security and public panic...they don't get in the mainstream of reporting.

Merry Christmas

M.S.
Deptment of Homeland Security/F.E.M.A./C.E.R.T.
1st Responder/EMT-Advanced Disaster Life Support
E.R.T.-Emergency Response Team/Search and Rescue
Region 2, South, Wayne County, Mich, U.S.A.

originally posted by: Starhooker
a reply to: mysterioustranger

I wish everyone had your ideals. I really do. But they don't. Most don't. And it sucks. But that's the reality of this world. Do you lock your doors at home? Be the change you want to see and leave your front door open all the time. Do you dare?

*See my reply above. My ideals aren't the issue, as aren't with my team, co-responders or command.

If we did...we couldnt be there for you, our own families, neighbors and others.

Concluding with the obvious...yes, we lock doors, yes our neighbors are both Muslim and Hispanic. Yes, I have a daily carry C.C.W...and YES..if you need me? You have my #.

#911

To all:

About what you don't know

M.S.M...combined with all the Alt. Media...both real and "fake" news (which may or may NOT be the truth)...skews the reality of the REAL truths.

The real truths are somewhere in the middle...and yet people take sides, right or wrong, real or fake.

If all of it, from everywhere, worldwide...were laid out in front of all...it'd scare the pants off of you.

It does us...and we're your responders...

Stay safe, read from all sources to make your lives safer with info and views from all available sources. Seemingly "fake"...or real. We never know...

Peace

a reply to: mysterioustranger

Cool I have a secruity clearance too, I wasnt DHS, but I was a Marine Deployed in Iraq for over 4 tours......and then in various security details when i rotated out....


And I can tell you this, those walls we had outside our FOB did a damn good job of keeping people out we didnt want......

And like I also stated before, just on finances alone, we have 18.5 billion a year at least starting in 2016 that its costing in healthcare ALONE for illegals, and thats JUST who we KNOW about, and not counting the cost for everything else.....

If we kept out just 20 percent of that, in health care cost alone that wall would pay for itself within 2 years, (again not counting other expenses illegals cost us, thats just in HEALTH CARE)

Those funds can then be redirected to other sources, you know like the VA, benefits, paying our military more, increasing issues with healthcare coverage, the sky is the limit......

So dont tell me its not worth it, the numbers alone dont back up your claim that its not worth it and dont try and throw your credentials at me, because honestly they mean jack sh!t if you cant do the math..........

a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

135 billion a year.




www.washingtonexaminer.com...

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

135 billion a year.

www.washingtonexaminer.com...

Thank you bud

So at stopping ONLY 20 percent of those coming through, we would save 27 BILLION a year.......

yeah conversation over....

a reply to: JAGStorm

will it stop every single one, no of course not but it will certainly be better than chain link, barbed wire, and cameras.


Also as mentioned it just might be more effective than what we have and congress has no interest in fixing problems.

a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

135 billion is more than the entire annual budget of the UK's National Health Service.
I know smaller nations, only a 6th the population in the UK, but just giving perspective of how much money that actually is.