Mars Pipes

Thought I'd make a new topic for this. It's fairly unusual. We'll have to see what these things really are when we get closer images, but danged if they don't look like partially-buried pipes of some kind. They could be some kind of stratification. We'll see.
mars.jpl.nasa.gov...

And since it was taken with the Hazcam, we have a 3-D image of them (cross-eyed) which shows that they're probably not rover tracks.

Be nice to get some closer views. There are some odd rocks around this area. Maybe that's why the rover backtracked to look at this area again.

a reply to: Blue Shift

interesting. I often wonder on these images as to the relative size of what we are seeing. I am unaware of how close or visually how big things are so going to take a look into that.....

Initially though I thought maybe wind blown rocks dragged the dirt like in Death Valley in the US, but they clearly start and stop abruptly if so, and only in that one spot, so that thought doesn't really hold up. Then why wouldn't there be more of such drag marks?

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Hard to tell the distance between the marks and the mars vehicle...it could look further away than thought..this may be just an area that was sampled off of the machine...hard to get perspective in this picture

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Could be pipes but they look more like reinforcing rods to me.

It looks like one of the Mars rovers peeled out right there.

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: Blue Shift

Could be pipes but they look more like reinforcing rods to me.

Rebar from an abandoned concrete building or road project?

a reply to: Blue Shift

hmm - you can tell from the rocks and terrain and tracks from the picture that these are relatively small. not tiny, but small

outside of that, they almost look fake or CGI'ed.

NASA playing trix - they must be bored with Mars already...

originally posted by: ausername

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: Blue Shift

Could be pipes but they look more like reinforcing rods to me.

Rebar from an abandoned concrete building or road project?

It should search nearby for some ankle wraps and Tylenol bottles

originally posted by: chrismarco
a reply to: Blue Shift

Hard to tell the distance between the marks and the mars vehicle...it could look further away than thought..this may be just an area that was sampled off of the machine...hard to get perspective in this picture

Yeah, that's an issue because of the fish-eye effect. I don't think they're big. Six feet away or so, possibly. In the lower portion of the original image you can see rover tracks. Maybe it got close enough and reached out and dug around these things. I don't remember seeing them before, though.

a reply to: Blue Shift

Cool and Gortex AND Ausername make a very interesting and probably correct observation which if correct could mean only one of two thing's.

The Mars image is actually somewhere on earth and they forgot to clean up the area which I doubt.

The Mars image is showing evidence of something artificial which open's up a whole lot of possibility ranging from former advanced civilization having touched the face of mars to remains of an artificial object that has crashed onto the surface of mars.

OR incredibly unlikely but not impossible they could be a freakish natural formation of some kind which I doubt but it has to be said that sometime's nature does amazing thing's.

Seems obvious to me what made those tracks:

a reply to: gortex

like rebar? I would think the pics wouldn't be that close up, so maybe "beams" is a better term? But for what then? What would Beams be for if not for a House or structure of sorts. Maybe pipes like sewage tunnels or transport maybe under the base top soil, like underground and the wind uncovered them.......

originally posted by: Blue Shift
And since it was taken with the Hazcam, we have a 3-D image of them (cross-eyed) which shows that they're probably not rover tracks.

Wasn't the photo taken with the Navcam?

And yes, it looks like those are marks made by the rover, as the darker colour of the ground makes me think of disturbed ground.

I believe it is an area that the rover has already visited.

If you look at this image

mars.nasa.gov...

taken a couple of hours before you can see that it is closer to some of the features in the OP image. I've pointed them out here:



So they're tracks from the rover itself.

originally posted by: ArMaP
Wasn't the photo taken with the Navcam?

Yes, my error.

And yes, it looks like those are marks made by the rover, as the darker colour of the ground makes me think of disturbed ground.

That's what it looks like. Although the stereo image sure make it look like they're elevated above the bottom of the little pit. I wonder if these were dug up the last time the rover was in this area around Sol 1995. I don't recall seeing any photos of them, but I'll look around.

originally posted by: OneBigMonkeyToo
I believe it is an area that the rover has already visited.

If you look at this image

mars.nasa.gov...

taken a couple of hours before you can see that it is closer to some of the features in the OP image. I've pointed them out here:

So they're tracks from the rover itself.

In the enlarged picture in the link in the foreground you can see the rover tracks. These don't seem to have anyway of matching the rovers tracks. They may have driven over the area or used their scooper but that exposed the lines I don't think they made them.Possibly.

a reply to: seattlerat

Ha Sand Crawler watch out for the Harkonen.

a reply to: OneBigMonkeyToo

So the rover performed the first burnout on Mars!!?


Hell yeah! Check that off the to-do list for humanity!

They appear to be partially exposed double train rails to me