Is Santa Claus Real. . . . .

a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1

Negative reinforcement, Santa represents.

Misbehave you, no presents will receive.

a reply to: DBCowboy

As good a time as any, that's when their brains are the most pliable. Though I would simply teach them what is really important, their relationships with other people and how they treat them.

originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
a reply to: DBCowboy

As good a time as any, that's when their brains are the most pliable. Though I would simply teach them what is really important, their relationships with other people and how they treat them.

I'm only a parent of 2 boys, and by no means a expert, but good luck with that!


lolz.

a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1

See, that's the thing. Three year olds are not properly human. It's a brain development thing. They can't reason properly. Logic holds no sway.

Teenagers are worse.

Probably because they know Santa is a lie.

a reply to: Phage

A.k.a. materialism. If the reward for good behavior is a new TV then that puts the value on material things and not the action.

And again, what parent gets their child nothing for Christmas anyways? The "punishment" is not followed through with the vast majority of the time so the negative reinforcement is barely even there the majority of the time.

a reply to: Phage

Which is why religion and nationalism work so well.

a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1

If the reward for good behavior is a new TV then that puts the value on material things and not the action.

You never took Psch 101? You don't understand negative reinforcement?

a reply to: DBCowboy

So materialism is more valuable than altruism? Values are instilled at a young age, altruism is a set of values. What better time is there to teach altruism other than when they are young?

a reply to: Phage

Mark Twain once said; (paraphrase)

"When a child turns 12 place them in a barrel with just a hole in it for food. When the child turns 16, plug the damned hole."

a reply to: Phage

So the negative reinforcement being not getting a TV? What exactly is the value of the action put on other than the TV?

a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
I have yet to meet a nationalistic or religious 3 year old. Though I have seen videos of 3 year old parrots.

That is not reasoning. You cannot reason with a 3 year old.

originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
a reply to: DBCowboy

So materialism is more valuable than altruism? Values are instilled at a young age, altruism is a set of values. What better time is there to teach autism other than when they are young?

Dude, good luck. You gonna teach your kid to be altruistic at three?


It's not the teacher so much as it is a student willing and able to learn.

a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1

So the negative reinforcement being not getting a TV?

No. The negative reinforcement is receiving no response to undesirable (whatever that means) behavior.

a reply to: DBCowboy

If you don't think it's possible then it's not going to be. I believe it is possibly therefore I will do it.

a reply to: Phage

And the positive reinforcement is the TV. Materialism.

a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1

Positive reinforcement can also be ice cream.
I've relied upon negative reinforcement more often than positive. It seems to be working. My daughter is a good person, if I do say so myself.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Phage

Mark Twain once said; (paraphrase)

"When a child turns 12 place them in a barrel with just a hole in it for food. When the child turns 16, plug the damned hole."

Instructions unclear. Havn't removed the plug in 4 years.

a reply to: Phage

Do you get your kids ice cream for Christmas?

The fact still remains, if a kid gets nothing for Christmas they are devastated, that is a clear sign of materialism. It has helped to facilitate the rampant consumerism in our society, I'm not sure how that can be debated.

originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
a reply to: DBCowboy

If you don't think it's possible then it's not going to be. I believe it is possibly therefore I will do it.

lolz

Never had kids.

*chuckles*

a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1

Do you get your kids ice cream for Christmas?

One kid. Nope.

if a kid gets nothing for Christmas they are devastated, that is a clear sign of materialism.

Or it is a clear sign that they screwed up royally. Or it is a clear sign that there are things that are more important (like eating).

It has helped to facilitate the rampant consumerism in our society, I'm not sure how that can be debated.

Well, that's a fact. But it's not Santa's fault. Or Christmas. Or the solstice.