The mystery of Nibiru may be tied into this history of the Hebrews.

OK, please, at least hear me out on this!

As is the case with Nibiru many people claim that Israel (or the Hebrews) never really existed before making up a history in the 1400’s BC. Some go as far as to say they were not even enslaved in Egypt. Then some go further and deny more recent atrocities unrelated to this discussion. However the nation of Hibiru appears in documents dating back to 1800’s BC. In addition to both nations claiming a similar heritage, the name is shockingly close. Especially considering the dialects in the surrounding areas, and how words change once the years and from location to location. Event the Encyclopedia Britannica admits this connection.

Originally the term Hebrew had nothing to do with race or ethnic origin. It derived from Habiru, a variant spelling of Ḫapiru (Apiru), a designation of a class of people who made their living by hiring themselves out for various services. - Encyclopedia Britannica.

Back the enslavement by and exodus from Egypt for a moment. The Jewish texts indicate that the Israelites were enslaved and forced to build great monuments. Are there any great monuments in Egypt? There are many. Of course the Israelites who contributed to the writings indicate mud brick manufacturing and construction, however it is likely that they would have been used in other tasks over the 430 years they were there.

Some time after the exodus the Israelites settled in the land of the Canaanites to the south in a Manifest Destiny style of acquisition. It is well established that the Cannanites had a good trade relationship with the rest of the Babylonian empire, and it is conceivable that some of them may have escaped though Egypt or other locations. The tales of the Hebrews, or Habiru as they might have said.

OK, so what does an ancient tribe which may be (or be related to) the Hebrews have to do with Planet X destroying the Earth in Babylonian mythology?
According to some translations of cuneiform texts, Nibiru is a star which will move away form the earth and then will return some time later, possibly near the end of this stage in human civilization. Now in ancient culture all celestial objects are called stars. This is not lack of knowledge but just how the language worked. Many people suggest that Nibiru may be Jupiter, and there is some reasoning behind it; but what if the star association is actually symbolic? The Hebrew king David has a hexagram (or star symbol) associated with his rule, and his successor Solomon used it as well. David was alive in the 1000’s BC, and the first mention of Nibiru was in a tablet (or cylinder seal) which is a technology used around that time. What’s more is that the depiction of Nibiru is actually that of a hexagram or six sided star on the actual tablet and seal.

Now if you’re still reading this, consider this fact: Nibiru ( 𒉌𒁉𒊒 ) = Habiru ( 𒄩𒁉𒊒 ) = Hebrew ( עברי ) = People of Israel will be destroyed and then restored near the end of this age or the end of the world. This would be the same concept as that which the prophet Ezekiel foretold. Granted he was a couple hundred years removed from the events in question, given that our dating methods are accurate. It is possible that God may have spoken to others whose lives and writings did not make it into modern scripture.

does that mean zecharia sitchinmade up the hebrews and they dont really exist?

a reply to: fightzone58

LOL, more like he confused the ancient Jews with an alien planet or star.

a reply to: Theocracy4America

People of Israel will be destroyed and then restored near the end of this age

Already happened. 3 Million killed under Nazi Germany and the people then had Israel restored. their country returned.

No need to look for rogue planets with no gravity or mass.

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a reply to: Theocracy4America

Star and flag for starting a really good Wikipedia binge.

Hey Zeus never existed either. I tell Taco Bell my name is Hey Zeus then they ask how is that spelled so I tell them Jesus. When it's ready, they come up and say order for.. Jesus? Trying not to laugh but I act serious, look them in the eye and say smiling that no, it's Hey Zeus, it's spelled Jesus because it's Spanish.

We know the special powers and superhuman miracles were either made up, the power of charisma and suggestion, sleight of hand and illusion, or a combination of all three but no, the guy never even existed as a human being, even if he was full of it or later had stories made up about him.

How do we know? It's funny you should ask. Men have devoted their entire lives to hating and disproving it. Why? I don't know. There's always a silver lining, a grey truth in the middle, or an origin to stories (especially one of the most influential in the history of mankind) but not in this case. The truth is, Christianity is a money and pervert cult for the simple and ignorant with some basic moral and ethical teachings for the children. Who get molested by the pervert elders who raised them innocent and naive. The whole thing was made up by Roman weirdos that liked little boys, orgies, killings, and wine.

All hail Jupiter

a reply to: Theocracy4America


It's an interesting idea.

a reply to: Theocracy4America

Nice on connecting dots.
Ali iI have to add is this...

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The problem with the premise is that there is no mystery of Nibiru.

Harte

a reply to: Theocracy4America

Looking through Sacred texts the Habiru are found as a force attacking egypt from palestine.

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originally posted by: Harte
The problem with the premise is that there is no mystery of Nibiru.

Harte

Au contraire with enough sparkles I can make anything mysterious!

originally posted by: llama
a reply to: Theocracy4America

Looking through Sacred texts the Habiru are found as a force attacking egypt from palestine.

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The Merneptah Stele—also known as the Israel Stele or the Victory Stele of Merneptah—is an inscription by the ancient Egyptian king Merneptah (reign: 1213 to 1203 BC) discovered by Flinders Petrie in 1896 at Thebes, and now housed in the Egyptian Museum in Cairo.

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You've gotten ahold of some bad sources.

Back the enslavement by and exodus from Egypt for a moment. The Jewish texts indicate that the Israelites were enslaved and forced to build great monuments.

What they complain about is having to build in the city, Pi-Ramesses - or, rather, the military fort there which was on the outskirts of Egypt.

OK, so what does an ancient tribe which may be (or be related to) the Hebrews have to do with Planet X destroying the Earth in Babylonian mythology?

This particular idea doesn't exist in any Babylonian myth. Or Sumerian or any other Myth.

According to some translations of cuneiform texts, Nibiru is a star which will move away form the earth and then will return some time later, possibly near the end of this stage in human civilization.

The only translations where this exists is documents by people who can't actually read cuneiform. Heiser, who CAN read cuneiform, has a list of all the places where the name, "Nibiru" shows up. There's 17 references

Now... I encourage anyone who's skeptical of this to use the cuneiform online dictionary and look at the writings themselves and hack out a translation. You can do it (with some difficulty) but an hour's worth of translating work will show you that Heiser is correct.

Now in ancient culture all celestial objects are called stars. This is not lack of knowledge but just how the language worked. Many people suggest that Nibiru may be Jupiter, and there is some reasoning behind it; but what if the star association is actually symbolic? The Hebrew king David has a hexagram (or star symbol) associated with his rule, and his successor Solomon used it as well. David was alive in the 1000’s BC, and the first mention of Nibiru was in a tablet (or cylinder seal) which is a technology used around that time. What’s more is that the depiction of Nibiru is actually that of a hexagram or six sided star on the actual tablet and seal.

There's a difference in a tablet and in a cylinder seal. The oldest mention is, I believe on Astrolabe B and dates to around 800 BC. Enuma Elish is surprisingly younger, at around 600 BC. So this is quite some time after the Habiru and almost 600 years after Pi-Ramesses (1200 BC)

Now if you’re still reading this, consider this fact: Nibiru ( 𒉌𒁉𒊒 ) = Habiru ( 𒄩𒁉𒊒 ) = Hebrew ( עברי ) = People of Israel will be destroyed and then restored near the end of this age or the end of the world.

Do you have a source for this? I ask, because it contradicts everything I've read.

In any case, the Enuma Elish makes it very clear that "Nibiru" is a title for Marduk and not a planet. You may check out any scholarly translation of the tablet (check Wikipedia's resources) and see for yourself. And you can cross-check with images of the tablets and then check with cuneiform dictionaries.

In any case, there wasn't much significant slavery of Hebrews in Egypt. They had no need for slaves; the peasants of Egypt essentially served as slaves and there wasn't a risk of them running off (as with foreign slaves) or big revolts and so forth.

a reply to: Byrd

Great answer I'd forgotten how late the attested uses is/are.

Its amazing that Sitchin's amateurish comments are still considered to be valid after being debunked so thoroughly and for so long!

a reply to: r0xor

We know the special powers and superhuman miracles were either made up, the power of charisma and suggestion, sleight of hand and illusion, or a combination of all three but no, the guy never even existed as a human being, even if he was full of it or later had stories made up about him.

I'm sorry, but your arrogance is astounding.

How can you definitively say that there never ever was (or was not) miraculous happenings? Did you watch Derren Brown and fall for his mentalist satanic nonsense?

Just because miracles can be faked doesn't mean that a genuine miracle has never occurred. It even states, several places in scripture, that fake miracles do occur, and that we should be on our guard against belief in their apparent power!

People like you never seem to see past the end of your own nose, and are too arrogant to conceive that maybe - just maybe - the world is a little more mysterious than you'd give it creit for.

There are more things in Heaven & Earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy.."

Shakespeare. ('Nuff said?)

a reply to: Theocracy4America

In any case, the Enuma Elish makes it very clear that "Nibiru" is a title for Marduk and not a planet.

-Quote from Byrd

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