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originally posted by: Annee
If you can't understand the need for hormone blockers prior to puberty.
There is no point.
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: Dae
originally posted by: Annee
a reply to: Boadicea
Since you don't accept transgender.
You choose to believe what you want.
There really is no point in discussion with you.
Really? This is about kids, nothing against peaceful law abiding trans people, reckon the same for Boadicea.
Just leave the kids alone, with messing with their biology - this is their hormones and growth and entry into adult hood.
Obviously.
If you can't understand the need for hormone blockers prior to puberty.
There is no point.
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: Dae
originally posted by: Annee
a reply to: Boadicea
Since you don't accept transgender.
You choose to believe what you want.
There really is no point in discussion with you.
Really? This is about kids, nothing against peaceful law abiding trans people, reckon the same for Boadicea.
Just leave the kids alone, with messing with their biology - this is their hormones and growth and entry into adult hood.
Obviously.
If you can't understand the need for hormone blockers prior to puberty.
There is no point.
originally posted by: dawnstar
a reply to: Annee
and how can you be sure that this isn't more of a matter of a dad who wants his son to be more boyish, and mom just enjoying her son's company and help in the kitchen. and a boy who just enjoys doing things with mom, like helping cook and such as much as he enjoys going fishing with dad and shooting hoops?
at least with me, you are right, I don't understand that much when it comes to this topic. to me, the only thing I can think of as being worse than feeling the need to mutilate your body to be something you aren't, would be having two parents at odds with each other because they both don't like what you are!
originally posted by: Annee
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Both you and I have also discussed the twin boy experiment of nurture vs nature. Remember that one? I believe he eventually committed suicide.
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1970s: How effective was the change surgery? What were the outcomes for transgender people?
The first report comes from Dr. Harry Benjamin, a strong advocate for cross-gender hormone therapy and gender-reassignment surgery, who operated a private clinic for transsexuals. According to an article in the Journal of Gay & Lesbian Mental Health, “By 1972, Benjamin had diagnosed, treated, and befriended at least a thousand of the ten thousand Americans known to be transsexual.”
Dr. Benjamin’s trusted colleague, endocrinologist Charles Ihlenfeld administered hormone therapy to some 500 transgender people over a period of six years at Benjamin’s clinic—until he became concerned about the outcomes. “There is too much unhappiness among people who have the surgery,” he said. “Too many of them end as suicides. 80% who want to change their sex shouldn’t do it.” But even for the 20% he thought might be good candidates for it, sex change is by no means a solution to life’s problems. He thinks of it more as a kind of reprieve. “It buys maybe 10 or 15 years of a happier life,” he said, “and it’s worth it for that.”
But then, Ihlenfeld himself never had a sex change. I did, and I disagree with him on that last point: The reprieve is not worth it. After I had a reprieve of seven or eight years, then what? I was worse off than before. I looked like a woman—my legal documents identified me as a woman—yet I found that at the end of the “reprieve” I wanted to be a man every bit as passionately as I had once yearned to be a woman. Recovery was difficult.
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originally posted by: Annee
a reply to: Boadicea
If you don't understand the need for hormone blockers prior to puberty -- you know nothing about transgender.
Are there dark sides. Yes -- in everything.
If you don't understand the need for hormone blockers prior to puberty -- you know nothing about transgender.
originally posted by: UKTruth
originally posted by: Annee
a reply to: Boadicea
If you don't understand the need for hormone blockers prior to puberty -- you know nothing about transgender.
Are there dark sides. Yes -- in everything.
Thank you for demonstrating the sickness of transgender activism with your post.
spiked: Are children being unnecessarily transitioned?
Withers: Yes, a lot of them. You cannot tell in advance who is going to benefit from transitioning and who is going to be damaged. About 95 to 100 per cent of people who start on puberty blockers end up transitioning fully. Once you are on the railway it is very difficult to get off it.
But when puberty blockers are withheld, we know that 80 per cent of children start identifying with their biological sex again. So it is clear that we are unnecessarily transitioning children.
The other way is to work on the mind, to ask what caused a patient to identify as trans. But now trans activists are attempting to control our profession, without any proper clinical evidence or understanding of what we do. They have introduced something called the Memorandum of Understanding. It basically conflates the therapy you would give to a person who says they are trans with gay conversion therapy. It could lead to therapists being struck off.
At the end of the therapeutic process, a patient might, for instance, come to understand that he identifies as a woman because his father let him down so badly that he is averse to anything male about himself. If, in therapy, he managed to work through that and reconcile himself with his masculinity, it could now be said that his therapist had practised conversion therapy on him.
More than 10,000 adverse event reports filed with the FDA reflect the experiences of women who’ve taken Lupron. The reports describe everything from brittle bones to faulty joints.
originally posted by: radarloveguy
a reply to: TheJesuit
Not sure what to make of your reply ...
I thought I was very clear.
Please repeat English Comprehension 101
.... then re-read what I wrote .
ps ... not gonna miss next time