Thelema -am I reading it wrong

I have a question for all you so called Occult experts...What is the correct way to read Thelema?Im sure It's a codex of sorts, but im not 100% sure Would anyone care to shed some LIGHT? -- just wondering

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a reply to: DpatC

What do you mean by , correct way to read?

As in, how to interpret?

Codex means, it’s a book.

Thelema is a philosophy that many people have written about. The word thelema is greek for “will”

They tend to put their personal wants and needs before things like social norms, traditions, and taboos. A phrase commonly associated with this type of thinking is “do as thou wilt” which has lately become recently, “do as thou wilt, though none be hurt” which is more asscoiated with new age teachers and modern pagans.


What exactly are you asking?

a reply to: DpatC

The axiom or underlying tenant of Thelema law equates to ""Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law".

Essentially a "Nothing is true, everything is permitted" type reasoning is at play.

I tend to agree with the ideology to a degree.

a reply to: DpatC

I think the thelema movement was started in the british colleges amongst the children of the upper class. It seems to be most popular with those who are in academic circles. Something akin to skull and bones with none of the officialness. The order of the golden dawn had been around for a while before crowley entered their ranks and forced his way to the top. (A very interesting story). They were all about fringe amateur egyptology in their own right. A lot of what they wrote about came from poor translations of ancient Egyptian artifacts.

a reply to: DpatC

Thelema is the Sicilian Italian home in Italy where in 1920 Crowley lived and practiced sorcery in the Thelema Abbey.

"Thel-E-ma", Italy (Sicily)

a reply to: Woodcarver

I honestly don't know... IN many ways it reminds me of the city of God by Augustine of Hippo !

originally posted by: DpatC
a reply to: Woodcarver

I honestly don't know... IN many ways it reminds me of the city of God by Augustine of Hippo !

what books are you reading?

originally posted by: mysterioustranger
a reply to: DpatC

Thelema is the Sicilian Italian home in Italy where in 1920 Crowley lived and practiced sorcery in the Thelema Abbey.

"Thel-E-ma", Italy (Sicily)

The city was cefalu

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: DpatC
a reply to: Woodcarver

I honestly don't know... IN many ways it reminds me of the city of God by Augustine of Hippo !

what books are you reading?

In no particular order

Three books of Occult philosophy - by Henry Cornelius Agrippa
A history and a case for God - Karen Armstrong
The Bible, freemasonary Edition - author Unknown!
The Books of Enoch - Ethiopic, slavonic, and hewvrew edits
Zero the biography of a dangerous Idea by Charls Selfie
Fourth Book of Occult Philosophy - Henry Cornelius Agrippa
The Last Pagans of Iraq: by Ibn Wahshiyya
My name is Lilith - Monette Chilson
My Name is Innana - Monette Chilson

And thats just for starters - You could say I read alot

With your eyes closed. Just use your occult powers or imaginary third eye.

The third eye isn't imaginary.
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originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: mysterioustranger
a reply to: DpatC

Thelema is the Sicilian Italian home in Italy where in 1920 Crowley lived and practiced sorcery in the Thelema Abbey.

"Thel-E-ma", Italy (Sicily)

The city was cefalu

Yep....and he lived and practiced sorcery in the Thelema Abbey. Boarded up now..the locals in town are hesitant to give directions to it. So many thrill seekers break in, paint symbols on walls and do rituals.

At least up to a couple yrs ago...

originally posted by: DpatC
The third eye isn't imaginary.
please watch the following video before replying

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Those are well known parlor tricks. I hope you don’t treat videos like these as proof that super powers are real.

originally posted by: DpatC

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: DpatC
a reply to: Woodcarver

I honestly don't know... IN many ways it reminds me of the city of God by Augustine of Hippo !

what books are you reading?

In no particular order

Three books of Occult philosophy - by Henry Cornelius Agrippa
A history and a case for God - Karen Armstrong
The Bible, freemasonary Edition - author Unknown!
The Books of Enoch - Ethiopic, slavonic, and hewvrew edits
Zero the biography of a dangerous Idea by Charls Selfie
Fourth Book of Occult Philosophy - Henry Cornelius Agrippa
The Last Pagans of Iraq: by Ibn Wahshiyya
My name is Lilith - Monette Chilson
My Name is Innana - Monette Chilson

And thats just for starters - You could say I read alot

Reading these books should be enough to show you that they are just made up ideas. That none of these people had a grip on reality, and were happy to write about their fantasies as though they were factual. They are the david wilcox and linda moultan howe of those days.

a reply to: DpatC

As asked, what do you mean correct way to read Themelma? Are you only planning on reading? Its a Cerimonal Magic beleif system. Do you want to read or practice this?

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: DpatC

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: DpatC
a reply to: Woodcarver

I honestly don't know... IN many ways it reminds me of the city of God by Augustine of Hippo !

what books are you reading?

In no particular order

Three books of Occult philosophy - by Henry Cornelius Agrippa
A history and a case for God - Karen Armstrong
The Bible, freemasonary Edition - author Unknown!
The Books of Enoch - Ethiopic, slavonic, and hewvrew edits
Zero the biography of a dangerous Idea by Charls Selfie
Fourth Book of Occult Philosophy - Henry Cornelius Agrippa
The Last Pagans of Iraq: by Ibn Wahshiyya
My name is Lilith - Monette Chilson
My Name is Innana - Monette Chilson

And thats just for starters - You could say I read alot

Reading these books should be enough to show you that they are just made up ideas. That none of these people had a grip on reality, and were happy to write about their fantasies as though they were factual. They are the david wilcox and linda moultan howe of those days.

Far out - I take it that you have never read any of the books that I mentioned? Howvever I forgot one - the picatrix or to give it It's arabic name Ghāyat al-Ḥakīm Just saying

originally posted by: Noinden
a reply to: DpatC

As asked, what do you mean correct way to read Themelma? Are you only planning on reading? Its a Cerimonal Magic beleif system. Do you want to read or practice this?

I need to gain a Understanding of it. It seems allegorical to the education I am currently receiving. I apolagise as I cannot go into deatil on this

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: DpatC

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: DpatC
a reply to: Woodcarver

I honestly don't know... IN many ways it reminds me of the city of God by Augustine of Hippo !

what books are you reading?

In no particular order

Three books of Occult philosophy - by Henry Cornelius Agrippa
A history and a case for God - Karen Armstrong
The Bible, freemasonary Edition - author Unknown!
The Books of Enoch - Ethiopic, slavonic, and hewvrew edits
Zero the biography of a dangerous Idea by Charls Selfie
Fourth Book of Occult Philosophy - Henry Cornelius Agrippa
The Last Pagans of Iraq: by Ibn Wahshiyya
My name is Lilith - Monette Chilson
My Name is Innana - Monette Chilson

And thats just for starters - You could say I read alot

Reading these books should be enough to show you that they are just made up ideas. That none of these people had a grip on reality, and were happy to write about their fantasies as though they were factual. They are the david wilcox and linda moultan howe of those days.

So are you telling me that a concept of Zero is not a dangerous Idea?

a reply to: DpatC

Oy .. .thats going to take time. I was a member of the OTO years ago, but it did nothing for me in the end, so rather than pay to remain part of that group, I decided to go with something else.

Basically to gain an understanding of it, you will need to practice it to some extent.