World's largest neuromorphic supercomputer is switched on

originally posted by: verschickter
a reply to: InTheLight
Bring that argument into transgender discussion. Heads will explode.

I would expect the transgender population to make the distinction between transgender to transduck. Quack.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: InTheLight

Depends on how well you emulate a Duck, nevermind the purpose behind the emulation.

Probably help if your name was Donald or Daffy also.

Perhaps I might add the label 'The dame's gone Daffy'.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: CriticalStinker

Well if it looks like a Duck and quack like one.........it's a Duck.

Well if we treat it like a Duck.... Than it will get the same poor treatment we give each other.

Actually, let me re-frame that. As long as we don't give them the right to vote, we'll probably treat them grand haha.

a reply to: InTheLight

Well, labels are an interesting subject all on there own.

The world would be rather a dangerous place without such all the same.

Never mind rather hard to understand in any kind of meaningful manner.

originally posted by: GBP/JPY
a reply to: SprocketUK

Good one....they'll never come close to the human brain....it has supernatural gates that perform 5 different functions like magic choosing which function when needed, so the optimization is beyond comprehension, and it's that optimization science can't imagine without making a computer the size of the universe....hello Bible

This is another of those technology is confused for magic things.

a reply to: CriticalStinker

If its smart it will understand the futility of the vote, never mind the shortcomings of say the two-party system where our alleged systems of democratic rule are concerned, that's a given.

a reply to: CriticalStinker

I think I´ll rewatch that movie tonight. Some fodder for thought is always good. Sadly I can´t find the english original version on AmazonPrime.

Does having DNA or being carbon based make our consciousness more important?

I´d say not, at that point. Maybe it will start with animal rights and as time progresses and people can relate more to them?

Maybe we´ll introduce a system completely different from the "human - animal - plant - object" system we now use. I mean, we begin to acknowledge that animals are more intelligent as we think.

In the end, we´re just animals, we just don´t call us like that because we see ourselfes on a higher level. Might be that we need to discard this way of thinking and develop some kind of "awareness score".

That awareness score would then grant better rights to humans, animals and artifical intelligence. I lately ask myself, looking into plant intelligence (yes, they can solve problems!), where do we stop?

Vegetarians will freak out. The truth is, if we use consciousness in the terms of being aware that even plants are intelligent, this brings us a huge dilemma. So then we can eat dirt to not feel guilty consuming other intelligent beings for food.

We would have to kill ourselfes, but so would animals do. In the end, we reach the starting point when we admit we are cruel being that eat other intelligent creatures... the vegetarians can begin to enjoy that angus beef steak, too.

Funnily, it would somehow bring us closer together as a species.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: CriticalStinker

If its smart it will understand the futility of the vote, never mind the shortcomings of say the two-party system where our alleged systems of democratic rule are concerned, that's a given.

Some of us do and we're not even super intelligent AI

a reply to: CriticalStinker

Amen to that brother!

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: InTheLight

Well, labels are an interesting subject all on there own.

The world would be rather a dangerous place without such all the same.

Never mind rather hard to understand in any kind of meaningful manner.

Although if we keep in mind that AI is now equivalent to a pre-schooler, I doubt this supercomputer will gain much ground in the long term because we humans are very complex and our brains are the real universal supercomputers; let's tap into that. And as for it becoming conscious, that will never happen because it will never be sentient (never say never?).

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a reply to: InTheLight
Is a duck without gender in english?

In German a duck is a female duck. And erpel is a male duck. Although that sounds silly, it´s like that.
I now stop the quackery...

a reply to: verschickter

The truth is, if we use consciousness in the terms of being aware that even plants are intelligent, this brings us a huge dilemma. So then we can eat dirt to not feel guilty consuming other intelligent beings for food

And further down the rabbit hole we go.

If you can see my avatar, you could probably venture a guess on why these topics interest me.

Many a journey I have gone on finding "truths".

The only one I've found so far is it all depends on perception.



This is a long documentary on how plants communicate. It's a PBS NOVA series, some of the highest quality documentary work right up there with BBC. (Take this in the context I only speak English, I'm sure there are an incredible amount of other Documentary outlets)

a reply to: CriticalStinker
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a reply to: InTheLight

Well, things are only impossible until they are not.

Let's just say our brains have very biological shortcomings that we may be able to augment via technology sooner than we imagine.

Consider that we already augment our mental and data recollection somewhat simply by carrying what amounts to a supercomputer in our pocket.

Next step is to put it in our head either physically or via some other means.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: InTheLight

Well, things are only impossible until they are not.

Let's just say our brains have very biological shortcomings that we may be able to augment sooner than we imagine.

Consider that we already augment our mental and data recollection somewhat simply by carrying what amounts to a supercomputer in our pocket.

Next step is to put it in our head either physically or via some other means.

Would that be so bad? As I age, I could sure use some assistance in retrieving data from my memory banks.

a reply to: InTheLight

Bad is beside the point.

We simply do not create tools we do not use.

It's going to happen anyway, that being the integration of man and machine, and we will allow it to happen, we won't go kicking and screaming, but willingly, because the benefits will far outweigh the dangers.

a reply to: andy06shake

There are arguably more natural ways we can mitigate the limitations of the brain.

I remember reading years back of the advent of synthetic blood.

Red blood cells have on the surface hemoglobin, this is what carries oxygen through our body. The downside is the mass as a whole is not carrying it such as a balloon would.

The synthetic blood hypothetically could carry massive amounts more comparably in mass.

The climax result I heard back in the day is a syringe full could enable you to hold your breath for an hour.

The ramifications could be the next round of evolution.

For one, we put off lactic when muscles don't get enough oxygen, forcing us to slow down our pace. This would mean that we could exercise to further extents causing a physical evolution.

The question would be the impact on the mind. Such as we yawn when we are tired, this is actually a result of decreased levels of oxygen to the brain from more relaxed breathing, hence why we associate it with tiredness.

Would increased oxygen create over time more brain function?

originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: andy06shake

There are arguably more natural ways we can mitigate the limitations of the brain.

I remember reading years back of the advent of synthetic blood.

Red blood cells have on the surface hemoglobin, this is what carries oxygen through our body. The downside is the mass as a whole is not carrying it such as a balloon would.

The synthetic blood hypothetically could carry massive amounts more comparably in mass.

The climax result I heard back in the day is a syringe full could enable you to hold your breath for an hour.

The ramifications could be the next round of evolution.

For one, we put off lactic when muscles don't get enough oxygen, forcing us to slow down our pace. This would mean that we could exercise to further extents causing a physical evolution.

The question would be the impact on the mind. Such as we yawn when we are tired, this is actually a result of decreased levels of oxygen to the brain from more relaxed breathing, hence why we associate it with tiredness.

Would increased oxygen create over time more brain function?

I also read that the new fountain of youth is a transfusion of a young person's blood into one's body. Any merit, I wonder?

a reply to: CriticalStinker

"Would increased oxygen create over time more brain function?"

I honestly don't know, i do know that a constant accumulation of oxidized proteins takes place during our aging process and is linked to aging.

So there could be other ramifications where increased oxygen consumption/exposure is concerned.

a reply to: InTheLight

Vampires at it again?