U.S. preparing 'actions' in coming days against Venezuela: Pompeo to Fox News

originally posted by: ManFromEurope
Oil?
Oil!
It must be liberated, freed (from communism) and marketed!
Really, this took long enough. Time to bring capitalism and democrazy to the Venezuleans!
/s

I heard a couple of years ago that the Venezuelan moneyed class was going to shut down the socialist economy by withholding commerce. Apparently it worked.

originally posted by: CapitanArepa
a reply to: worldstarcountry

Hi I am in Venezuela and I can tell you middle class up would welcome a Invasion. What's left of of middle class anyway. The ones that are poor and dependent of social stuff coming from the Government have to eat from garbage. No Leadership has the balls to intervine in here because the backlash that would follow an intervention. In the other hand USA has to deal with this Government of Venezuela and bring it down or in short it will spread this type of "Cleptocracy" in South America. Supported by Cuba intelligence don't subestimate your foe. The so called President from Venezuela does not allow common Military to have Ammo, in fear of an overthrow. So a swift surprise attack would not have resictence at this point. The USA can ignore the whole situation put some sanction's but in the end you will have in some years your own socialist Gov and have the same problems Venezuela has now.

De a poquito a poquito Maduro les metió el Dedito

You are so lame lol, you can't even fight for your own country, that's why you are in this situation. I bet you are not on Venezuela anymore, you are like one of those that want to go the US and get welfare.

You don't care about your country, because if you did, you would not want an invasion to "get things right". You would arm yourself and get into a revolution. But HET, you are just wanting to be pampered and tell everything will be ok and you don't care about anything else. Your own words say it all

The USA, and other countries, were created through lots of blood and suffering, you want a free pass from what they gained through lots of decades of effort and who knows how much lives lost

Yo hablo espaniol, "De poquito a poquito, tu solo te fuiste traicionando a ti y a tu familia y pais. Dia con dia, poquito a poquito"

Shame, Shame, Shame

"Ten verguenza, lucha por ti mismo"

You would like to have been born US citizen and just don't care about Venezuelans lmfao

Edited to add:

Just to be clear. I am not a US citizen, but i find it terrible disgusting that you want US people to go fight and die on your own country just so that you can have your mcdonald's burger and your free ride. Don't you have any shame? Go fight yourself and stop it

a reply to: BoneSay

You are so lame lol, you can't even fight for your own country, that's why you are in this situation. I bet you are not on Venezuela anymore, you are like one of those that want to go the US and get welfare.

No thanks I will not go to USA I like that country but I have no need to go there because I already went there 3 times on vacation. I stay here on Venezuela right here where I am.

I am not calling big brother USA to intervine if they want to do that good for them. What I am saying is if the USA alliance does not act now it will find itself in the same position that we are now in some years.

It is easy to say grab a weapon and fight. I will not fight against Maduro because Civilians Don't overthrow Governments it is the Military who does. I never had a weapon in my life and don't think I need one either.

2014 -2016 People went out to the street tried to make Maduro to step down. Much where killed others went to prison and a lot of people left the country after that.

In other places has the Gov a non existent approval rating like here its steps down. But chavistas will never leave by themselves. They send death commando's and terrorize everyone.

You really think Civilians here are capable of organize themselves in to an all out Revolt and fight to the death. Let me tell you not much of us are. And those who tried are still being tortured by the Gov.

a reply to: BoneSay

No thanks I will not go to USA I like that country but I have no need to go there because I already went there 3 times on vacation. I stay here on Venezuela right here where I am.

originally posted by: CapitanArepa
a reply to: BoneSay

No thanks I will not go to USA I like that country but I have no need to go there because I already went there 3 times on vacation. I stay here on Venezuela right here where I am.

Right, so then stop asking for kids to die for you, have some shame

"Ohhh i hope they invade.. ohhhhh i wonder if we will have American food and cool things once they do.. ohhh i want to have Netflix and HBO for freeeeee.. and get a check for fooooood, and other things"

"Oof, yeets aways"

And people say i'm immature. Lmao

You.Fake

a reply to: BoneSay

I can live very well under the Venezuelan gob. in my particular case so I have no urge that USA invade us. What I am saying is that if the international community does not act now with Venezuela. Cuba together with Venezuela with aid from Russia Iran and China will subterfuge the whole Region and you will have your Madmax scenario at home just like we have now here.
And in the case the World's super Power I doubt there has to be one casualty's at all.
You attacking me without knowing me and my background saying all that things. Me having family nationality and the money from elsewhere I could have left much earlier. Still can do but I decided to stay. It's my personal sacrifice to stay here for some persons that can't leave.
And I have no need for first world Luxuries I have something of a Spartan livingstyle.

originally posted by: CapitanArepa
a reply to: BoneSay

I can live very well under the Venezuelan gob. in my particular case so I have no urge that USA invade us. What I am saying is that if the international community does not act now with Venezuela. Cuba together with Venezuela with aid from Russia Iran and China will subterfuge the whole Region and you will have your Madmax scenario at home just like we have now here.
And in the case the World's super Power I doubt there has to be one casualty's at all.
You attacking me without knowing me and my background saying all that things. Me having family nationality and the money from elsewhere I could have left much earlier. Still can do but I decided to stay. It's my personal sacrifice to stay here for some persons that can't leave.
And I have no need for first world Luxuries I have something of a Spartan livingstyle.

I'm Russian, guy, lmfao. You don't get it at all. You are unable to care for yourself because you want to. I can say for sure the US has made lots of things bad in the world, lots of them actually and the US government and their people are two different things, but sometimes lots of US people act just like the government and hurt people around them, that happens

You are not understanding your situation, you want to live a differnet life but you expect other people to get it to you. You said you hope they invade and you don't know what that means

Go and fight for your family then

I went to study middle school in the US, have lots of friends from middle school that are 18 already and some 19 now, and some of them will go into army.

You know what, i don't want them to go die for you and freedom that you think you will gain for you and your family. You go fight for it. I don't want my friends to die for you when you have not done a thing and expect them to die instead of going to college or have a family, i don't want to.

Why do you want them to die for you? Go fight your own war

In Cuba and in Russia, and the US and other countries they did it themselves, no care about their lives, just giving their families and everyone else a better life, and you say "hope they invade". You don't care, you want an easy way out

Go fight and then if you die you did, with honor and being proud, or not and then you go back to family. Don't run away like you said

You know what, i made a same mistake as i usually do. Once i start typing crazy fast and just writing what's on my mind i go back to not writing well and making lots of grammar mistakes, i apologize for that

But otherwise i stand by what i said. I don't want my friends to die for a war you don't want your own family or you to die for.

If you want to fight and Russia/Cuba and other countries see you dying with all your heart on the line, then i'm very sure we would all go there and die next to you. But you don't you only ask us to die for you

a reply to: BoneSay

You still not getting it? Sorry for my bad English then. Myself not wanting a War and I have no need to go outside to overthrow this gob because it's not affecting me directly in any way. Others yes very much I see their pain everyday. I feel bad for them when ever I see a kid eating from the garbage. And this pain I see here everyday will spread that's what I expect. And that's why I say you can stop Maduro now but in like 8 years you will not be able to stop him. I expect Populist Leaders to rise everywhere also in the USA.

In the same way like I feel sorry for the people here, can't the ones with the might to end this suffering not come to the same conclusion?

Besides if I would suggest an Invasion of Venezuela. It is crime here I can go up to 20 years to prison for thar. Do you know how Prisons in Venezuela are? To have to go there is like a death sentence. Do you think I have the valor to do something like that?
Now gn8

originally posted by: CapitanArepa
a reply to: BoneSay

You still not getting it? Sorry for my bad English then. Myself not wanting a War and I have no need to go outside to overthrow this gob because it's not affecting me directly in any way. Others yes very much I see their pain everyday. I feel bad for them when ever I see a kid eating from the garbage. And this pain I see here everyday will spread that's what I expect. And that's why I say you can stop Maduro now but in like 8 years you will not be able to stop him. I expect Populist Leaders to rise everywhere also in the USA.

In the same way like I feel sorry for the people here, can't the ones with the might to end this suffering not come to the same conclusion?

Besides if I would suggest an Invasion of Venezuela. It is crime here I can go up to 20 years to prison for thar. Do you know how Prisons in Venezuela are? To have to go there is like a death sentence. Do you think I have the valor to do something like that?

Now gn8

Lmfao, you don't get it at all. Time to stop now

You are already on the ground, no will to survive




You are one of those, no one told you about the third option LMFAO

I still think you fake

So sad so crazy

Spasibo

originally posted by: Trueman

originally posted by: DIEGLOKE2

originally posted by: Trueman

originally posted by: DIEGLOKE2

originally posted by: Trueman
a reply to: worldstarcountry


We've been waiting for this for a long time. We had to do it even before Maduro, when Chavez was there.

Maduro is so ignorant that he not even understands the meaning of this measures. I see invasion as the only way.

You American do like trampling other country's with your jack boots....

That's the only language Maduro understands. That's what he does to his own people.

So yeah, let's go clean the house. It wouldn't take more than 48 hours, his generals will surrender or run to other countries with fake IDs. The big party after that will last more.

Yeah cause US "liberation" is always so easy and successful.

No one WANTS or NEEDS American "liberation".

Cheap talk/ big mouth/ultra BS. Tell that to all the people starving in Venezuela.

Your the one with the big mouth demanding a war.

A coward calls for war and expects other people to fight it.

Chicken hawk, cluck cluck cluck.

Good Luck Guise.

originally posted by: Lysergic

Good Luck Guise.

:/

Mentos and Coke Bottle Rocket? ..

a reply to: incoserv

They kill protesters, and the government put the military in charge of food distribution and it's a big black market now.

It's the people that are unhappy, but the government uses military force to suppress them.

a reply to: worldstarcountry

For a former Director of Central Intelligence Pompeo doesn't seem to know how to keep his mouth shut. More fodder for the Anti-America crowd. Brilliant.

There's a lot of propaganda and bias surrounding Venezuela by the U.S. I recommend watching Abbey Martin. Her channel "empire files" is on YouTube. She actually goes to Venezuela and talks to the people there, gets a history of the country and both sides of the story. Something you rarely see. Here's a video of her friend talking about the things John Oliver got wrong about Venezuela.



I believe her work in Venezuela came to a hault with Trump's sanctions. No ability for wire transfer to continue real journalism.

So the beating of the war drums to go and take direct action against, for all intents and purposes, a third world country, namely Venezuela. This under the pretext of helping the very people of that country, all the while, looking at the natural resources that could be plundered, violating both international and domestic laws.


While there are those that are thinking that this is a good idea, the problem is that this is not a good idea, it is a bad idea, and one that will have consequences that no one wants. The first problem is that like many central and south American countries, they do not have tight border controls, that means that the fighting does not stay in one location, namely the country, but tends to shift, with one side or the other making different border crossings.


The next would be the very people, how does one deal with them, if they are running or even trying to escape. Is the US prepared to deal with an influx of legitimate refugee’s from another country, fleeing a war that was started by the US? We often think about going to war, by no one ever thinks of the after, the clean-up, that would come with such.


Another aspect would be how the public views such, and right now I do not think that the public would be so willing to support another conflict in another part of the world, where the military is sent and possibly die, to solve a problem that is not the US’s.


The facts are is that this is the internal problems of Venezuela, and ultimately, as much as its population is suffering, it would be up to them to solve and take matters into their own hands. The government of Venezuela is backed and supported by its military, and it will have to be the people, and that military that makes the change.

If we look back, then what is seen in history would dictate that this is a bad idea. Anyone remember the refugee's from El Salvador? The US policy was to support right wing dictatorships, and in the 1980's the people were caught in a bloody civil war, that resulted in the US admitting thousands of refugee's from that area of the world. The end result, we all have seen now. Are we ready to go through that again? And the aftermath of those policies.

But that's the intended result, isn't it?

Drown them so much that they can't help but ask for help and rebel against their own government, then everyone can go "help"

But without the sanctions, would it be the same" I wonder

Like on Iran, i saw on the news a guy claiming "ohh they are dying of hunger! the sanctions are working! how pitiful they have to beg for food and money!" well guy, you have already said you are killing them on purpose, how is this even legal or good?

a reply to: BoneSay

In any case, their is mass propoganda regarding Venezuela.

This means that you need a lot of research before debating the issue.

Yet, a lot of fools come in here ready to say "invade Venezuela". As my favorite journalist showed, abbey Martin, there is two sides to this story. Many are pro government and corporations minipulate the food market to create propaganda.

It's far deeper than people think. Sanctions aren't good. Proof that trump wants to continue the over-reach of empire to push agendas.

Just look at the hypocrisy in North Korea. Trump is talking about lifting sanctions before denuclearization. And he also complimented the guy. Giving praise to a mass murdering torturing dictator.

All in all, my message is that you have to look at outside sources for some differing opinions. A lot of propaganda out there.

originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

I said years ago that we need to go back to American isolationism.

Hostiles 2017.


DH Lawrence.


The essencial american soul is hard,isolate stoic and a killer,

It has never yet waivered.


Back to basics my Freinds.


Fox.