National Solar Observatory, USPS office in Sunspot, NM evacuated for 'safety reasons'

a reply to: Zaphod58

Would this be something that is totally unknown to the public at large, or something that's out there, but just kept very unadvertised.

I appreciate your input btw. And I promise I'm not being a jerk or looking to back you into a corner or anything.
I have a crap load of respect for you. We haven't talked much. But I follow your posts lol

a reply to: BlueAjah

It was never open to the public, visitors may only go near there but not inside any of the facilities.
NSO is actually the one that is open to the public.

Like I said before the staffers are the key.

No one knows yet who has access to the APO.

Without providing any sources or evidences to say it's not involved,
many here seem not so thrilled to be on a conspiracy site

a reply to: Zaphod58

Well, I think this whole thing is much ado about nothing, BUT...

A simple public explanation like...'The observatory was scheduled to be closed and was not manned full time, there was a threat called in citing the post office as a target (which would necessitate FBI) and because the post office is on the observatory property the whole facility was locked down until further notice pending the outcome of an investigation.'

That would go a long way to un-doing some of the wild speculation going on presently!

Just sayin.

Hey flying clay, I didn't tick you off back a few pages ago did I? If I did, I apologise. I wasn't trying to grab any thunder or anything . Just letting you know we were on the same page. Thought wise.

a reply to: caterpillage

No worries, we're good.

originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
a reply to: Mactaddy

That's not what I meant by what I posted. Man, people take things way out of context here sometimes.

The Sun goes through cycles all the time. That's what I was referring to, not the longer term evolution of the sun.

It's fine that you have very little understanding of the subject. That being the case, you should gain some. I've viewed this website as bunch of egotistical skeptics waiting around to drop the hammer on the next open-minded individual, but this particular story has bested everyone so far.

Nobody really responded to my long-winded post about the coming Little (almost certain) or BIG (hopefully not) Ice age but why else would research involving the sun be shut down with such force? Wouldn't it stand to reason that the shutdown is related to the sun? Maybe that it also relates to the trillion dollar hysteria of climate change... This enigmatic forceful shutdown involved an FBI (or military) team and immediate shutdown of a 'research facility' run by a university. Where are the answers? And when and if they come, why has it taken weeks to come up with a cover story?

The only thing I can think of, which could be a national security issue related to the sun, is the Solar Minimum and the fact that it is not only real, but HERE. This site was federally controlled and many are not. I'd check out the solar observatories that aren't federally controlled and see what you drum up... other than the sun is entering a phase of complete inactivity and an ice age of unknown proportions is imminent. Not only is it imminent, it's here. Maybe that's their justification for HAARP. Microwaving our ionosphere is brilliant! Doing so on a scale X 6 and ramping up is magnificent governing. Microwaving our planet... how do morons get into a position to forward that as a good idea.

a reply to: Mactaddy

Boy, talk about lack of understanding!!

WOW!!

The density is STRONG tonight!

Tu-too-loo now!

a reply to: caterpillage

Some of it is known, other aspects are not publicly available.

a reply to: Zaphod58

Ok, in this case, would you say overall it went as expected? Or did it draw attention that other wise would have been best avoided if the aspect of it that is known, was just acknowledged outrite.

New facts from
www.chicagotribune.com...

I never liked the Sheriffs role in this. He was the only one was suggested FBI involvement, blackhawk helicopters, men crawling on the towers. But why was he there? Seems AURA did not call him. And the sure FBI didn't. When he arrived, there was nothing for him to do. So, how did?

Well

"He said a volunteer fire chief claimed the FBI had told him there had been a "credible threat" but would provide no details."

Guess who the volunteer fire chief is? Answer: the Director of APO! And these guy are best buds.

So APO, is the source of all these claims then. They called in the local sheriff, got him to play up speculation. Why? Bad blood between the observatories? Could be - until recently APO could rent houses at Sunspot, now they cannot. Bad finances at APO? Someone at APO in trouble with the feds instead and trying to blow the case away?

Now, with all the pressure, the sheriff is going loony.

"They wouldn't give us any details," House said. "I've got ideas, but I don't want to put them out there. That's how bad press or rumors get started, and it'll cause paranoia, or I might satisfy everybody's mind and I might be totally off base."

This will come out. Someone will be arrested for something and this will be pinned back to someone who works at APO.

a reply to: caterpillage

It drew some attention, more because of where it was. But, obviously, they got away with the op since no one has figured out what they were doing.

a reply to: SheilaD

The FBI is involved. The NM congressman called the FBI, who told him there is an ongoing investigation.

a reply to: Zaphod58

Absolutely on that. You mentioned earlier how it's kind of fun watching it all unfold, and I would totally agree.

a reply to: BlueAjah

Pearce? Unlikely.

The volunteer fire chief is the director of APO. He called the sheriff. Someone at APO has done something seriously bad, and this whole charade is a smoke screen for that. If I'm right, this has to come out soon.

Page 108...
Been several days and no sleep. Got the flu and a very bad respiratory virus from the local airport... ( cough cough ) I'm withering awayyyy... (cough cough cough )

I may not make it. Tell the FBI to scrub the observatory clean in every acreage before the grand reopening (coooouuughh cough cough). Tell them (cough cough)....
It's not mundane but mainstream to find J. Edgar Hoover's ballerina slippers on a mountain top in 2018....
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Seriously I do wish to know what equipment or paperwork was found to bring the observatory to a grinding halt. But dragging it out just adds more fuel to a fire that didn't need attention. If that's the case. these guy's have had me glued to ADS-B and a paid subscription ( had it a year and worth it ) to Flightradar24 gold.

I get closing the Post Office as it services only the observatory( and it vacated ). Since the observatory belongs to the university now, why no State Police presence.

Note to all: still a fascinating thread. Let's see what happens.

Edit:
WTFrack!
a reply to: caterpillage

"It drew some attention, more because of where it was. But, obviously, they got away with the op since no one has figured out what they were doing."

What did I MISS???

a reply to: SheilaD

A very nice finding..
Ever since I started looking into this whole situation,
I found APO's location bizarre and its lack of transparency on research subjects quite obscure.

To say observatories are out of fundings since beginning of this year,
they're obviously still being used, operational to watch the skies.

NSO and APO are linked, not competing one another.
They're only a mile away, an easy drive back and forth.

A scariest thought just crossed my mind, hope all those sky researchers are safe and doing well.

a reply to: Zaphod58

Could you postulate at all on why it would have been where it was? Cause, where it was is pretty mundane in itself.
I've done a ton of research into the Dunn, the facility in general, it's history, why it came to be.
But honestly, I can't come up with a why on why it would be special. Other than really good science on the sun.

I've looked at how the sun can be a calibration point for telemetry, how it can affect communications, I've learned what it looks like on it's surface. Not to mention all the sunspot cme doom crap.
But I just don't see what the importance of the latest fiasco was caused by.

a reply to: Dumbdowned

APO is not open to the public, but they do allow visits by approved scientists, engineers, etc.
Astrophysical Research Consortium (ARC) owns and manages APO.
Apache Point Observatory

Sunspot is managed by Association of Universities for Research in Astronomy (AURA) Consortium. NMSU operates Sunspot.
Sunspot Observatory

They are about a mile or 2 apart.

AURA closed the Sunspot observatory for security reasons.
APO, run by ARC, was not closed. There were a dozen cars at a time seen at APO during this time period.
So... I still do not see the connection.

a reply to: Bigburgh

You didn't miss anything. I think you need a good strong hot toddy. Whiskey will fix what ails you!