Meanwhile, at the Mall...

a reply to: NthOther

I plan on stalking her until she is 16. Then she'll get some real freedom .

Shortly after I teach her to drive with the stick shift. ( she'll probably be the only one in her class )

I don't get you guys at all

I will probably get reprimanded here again but oh well

This is the world you built for us, you allowed tv and other things to be like that and show people are 'cool' dressing up like this and doing all idiotic things. You are the ones in control and let it happen then complain that it happens?

If you think trying to control what we wear or how we talk or walk or think will fix things you are wrong, fix it where you allowed it to go wrong, not the ones affected

I am not US citizen so my situation is different, i don't dress like that but i do like shorts and tops and other stuff too that you may also consider the same as on this post, so sad so crazy

To be honest, if you were trying to control me i would wear it just to make you go crazy, not because i like it much

Some of the comments here are almost offensive, like that one saying "men like some mystery" or something, oh that's awesome, but i don't remember me going out there working hard on finding a guy, that sounds like a dumb girl going out trying to find a good husband because otherwise how will she be able to have a good life?

Anyway i think when i was 14/15 i did had some clothes like that and i did not care at all what people thought of me or how i dressed but i stopped doing that 2 years ago, i don't care really for things like that or showing off.

And old mans looking at me that has happened since i remember, when i was 12 or so, it is not the clothes but even if i were dressed nice and refined or whatever they will look, for different reasons but still will look

You discuss the problem in a wrong way, the real problem is somewhere else but just by reading some of the comments here it is clear to me no one knows what's going on but still thinks they know how to prevent it or fix it, in the wrong way

Anyway continue you conversation, sorry to interrupt

a reply to: WarriorMH

Ah the voice of naivete.

You think I personally have a say in what they broadcast on TV or decide is trendy fashion? You think I allow them to do this? You need to get more experience of the world.

The only way I can attempt to control this is by teaching my own child what is and is not acceptable, but then, you say this is me being "too controlling" because you consider the messages of larger society to be more acceptable than that of your own parents.

This is what I've learned in my years of life:

You can only control yourself, but you can and should have influence on your family and friends. I should attempt to raise my son to understand why certain aspects of pop-culture are perhaps not things he ought to embrace ... things like giant ear plugs or excessive body modification. If I had a daughter, I'd be explaining to her why it's maybe best not to let all your private bits hang out for everyone to see.

See. I can't affect the large culture, but by convincing people around me, one at a time, I might be able to slowly over time become part of a movement that will make those things you see on TV a bit less acceptable so that then you feel less like you need to act like a MTV reality star in your life in order to feel like a normal person.

a reply to: WarriorMH

Who is "you"?

I was brainwashed by the damn TV just like you. I figured out what it was when I was 10, haven't watched it for 30 years since.

Never blamed my parents for it.

originally posted by: NthOther
So (through no fault of my own, mind you), I've found myself at the mall, where 90% of teenage girls apparently now dress like f# hookers.

It has been quite a while since I've been here, obviously.

Now, I know the trick. She leaves the house looking like a nun, gets to the mall and she's transformed into Traci Lords. In my day, that would only work if the parents weren't around. And it happened quite often, so what's the big deal, you ask?

The f# parents are with these little tramps. They brought their 14-year-old daughters here with their ass cheeks hanging out of their... shorts? I don't even know wtf to say. If you let your kid out of the house looking like a slut you need a psych eval, possibly a visit from CPS and most certainly an ass beating.

And it's not just a handful, Democrats. There's misguided underage promiscuous teens everywhere at the mall for you to groom.

Anyway, I'm thoroughly disgusted for the day. And never going to the mall again. Gonna go home and take a damn shower.

/rant

Florida, mid 90's, belly shirts, damn near Daisy Duke shorts, sheer or netting-style tops over sports bras/bikini tops. I myself wore it all. Not to garner attention, though, it's a f#ing miserably hot & humid climate down there. It was appropriate for staying cooler for us teeny boppers back then, nobody bitched, not even the old folks.

Thank your lucky stars belly chains aren't back in fashion at the moment. At least, I don't think they are. They were a HUGE jewelry deal back then.

a reply to: Nyiah

Belly chains are f# sexy.

On adults.

Adult women. Have to clarify nowadays, of course. "Guys" could be wearing them now too, I suppose.

originally posted by: NthOther
a reply to: WarriorMH

Who is "you"?

I was brainwashed by the damn TV just like you. I figured out what it was when I was 10, haven't watched it for 30 years since.

Never blamed my parents for it.

I don't even have a tv, i watch whatever i want on netflix or other places

You as in everyone that are thinking something is wrong with us, current generation or how someone said the other day "generation z"

I don't blame anyone for my choices, i find it weird that we are blamed for being born in a world where people from previous generations made all the available choices

I have a few only, i chose to live alone and do my own thing, i don't live with my parents and i take care of myself, i don't dress like the way described here, but also i find it offensive the "we vs you" thing, i did not have a choice i was born in this world.

Other people had a choice to avoid this world but they did nothing because they did not care until they had a daughter and now it's a problem they care about.

originally posted by: NthOther
a reply to: Nyiah

Belly chains are f# sexy.

On adults.

Adult women. Have to clarify nowadays, of course. "Guys" could be wearing them now too, I suppose.

Same thing could be said for anklets for the guys with a foot fetish. At the end of the day, it's just a jewelry belt without the pant loops. I used mine with full coverage clothing, too.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: WarriorMH

Ah the voice of naivete.

You think I personally have a say in what they broadcast on TV or decide is trendy fashion? You think I allow them to do this? You need to get more experience of the world.

The only way I can attempt to control this is by teaching my own child what is and is not acceptable, but then, you say this is me being "too controlling" because you consider the messages of larger society to be more acceptable than that of your own parents.

This is what I've learned in my years of life:

You can only control yourself, but you can and should have influence on your family and friends. I should attempt to raise my son to understand why certain aspects of pop-culture are perhaps not things he ought to embrace ... things like giant ear plugs or excessive body modification. If I had a daughter, I'd be explaining to her why it's maybe best not to let all your private bits hang out for everyone to see.

See. I can't affect the large culture, but by convincing people around me, one at a time, I might be able to slowly over time become part of a movement that will make those things you see on TV a bit less acceptable so that then you feel less like you need to act like a MTV reality star in your life in order to feel like a normal person.

As a society it should be possible to change things, it happens in other ways, i see all the hashtags and people being fired because of saying the wrong things. The same used to happen before the internet, right? i thought that public opinion was worth something in the US and it could change things for the better, maybe i'm dumb but oh well

I control myself, maybe my parents did a good job at that, well i was raised by my grandfather so i picked up his way of living and stuff so i don't feel attached very much to other things

I don't have a TV or watch MTV, who does that lmao, there's a lot of stuff going on in netflix and other sites, TV is boring

You already contradicted everything, you can affect your family and close ones, if everyone does similar then a global change happens, no one did enough. So past generation caused this world to be because of no interest until they had kids and they were worried? Before that, they did not care if the neighbor had a kid with the t*ts out

a reply to: WarriorMH

I contradicted nothing.

If I influence a small group - my family, then so be it. Until and unless that small group grows to a critical mass capable of influencing the other 350 million or so individuals who are doing likewise in this country, what we see in pop-culture has little responsiveness to me personally and my small family group.

That sort of change doesn't happen overnight and it often takes generations.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: WarriorMH

I contradicted nothing.

If I influence a small group - my family, then so be it. Until and unless that small group grows to a critical mass capable of influencing the other 350 million or so individuals who are doing likewise in this country, what we see in pop-culture has little responsiveness to me personally and my small family group.

That sort of change doesn't happen overnight and it often takes generations.

How many generations? I can see people here complaining and they have grand children 12 or 15 or so, I'm 17, how many generations it takes? Maybe it doesn't matter anyway

If every generation had done something to prevent it then who knows but complaining about it just because now affects you directly i don't think that's right, because it was happening before and no one cares unless they are affected so it just keeps growing

I don't know anything i'm just saying, i'm sorry if i offended you i did not meant to, i'm just like this most times, i'm sorry

I don't think i have anything else to say now, i know it will continue to go on forever and there is no point

Spasibo

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Sayra

a reply to: WarriorMH

"Learn", you say????

LOL!!

I think from your posts here it is very clear who should be the one "learning".

a reply to: WarriorMH


A summary of your post:

"Everything is your fault- or someone else's fault but mine, anyway.

You allowed stuff on TV, and I cannot think for myself. You allowed it to be on TV, and I watched that TV and believe and buy everything I watch...,so the state of affairs is your fault. I cannot and will not think for myself or accept any responsibility. For anything."

sounds about right for today's youth.

Do we need to give you a blue ribbon for Participation?

a reply to: WarriorMH

So now ... it's our fault it is happening, but we should just give up anyhow because it will continue happening.

Who is the contradiction?

You chide us for letting it happen as if we have the power to stop it, but then you tell us to just give up because it cannot be stopped.

Either we deserve to be chided because the power is ours or you should hold your tongue because it is, as you say, futile to resist, pop-culture is the Borg. And if that is so, then blaming us for what it is is likewise futile and only displays your own silliness.

If something is inexorable, then you can't blame others for it. They are as powerless as you perceive yourself to be.

originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
a reply to: WarriorMH

"Learn", you say????

LOL!!

I think from your posts here it is very clear who should be the one "learning".

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Your hate is showing up lmao, go back to rant about dumb things, if you only came here to insult me it just show how poor soul you are

a reply to: NthOther

So (through no fault of my own, mind you), I've found myself at the mall, where 90% of teenage girls apparently now dress like f# hookers.

They have dressed that way for very long time. Possibly the only new trend is the emergence of tatooes.
Woman of all ages love getting them on their arms and necks backs, and ass cheeks.
Not sure what is motivating the trend.
Mabey we will see soon woman dressed only in tatooes walking the shopping malls.

originally posted by: WarriorMH

originally posted by: NthOther
a reply to: WarriorMH

Who is "you"?

I was brainwashed by the damn TV just like you. I figured out what it was when I was 10, haven't watched it for 30 years since.

Never blamed my parents for it.

i find it weird that we are blamed for being born in a world where people from previous generations made all the available choices

i did not have a choice i was born in this world.

Other people had a choice to avoid this world but they did nothing because they did not care until they had a daughter and now it's a problem they care about.

Guess what? None of us had a choice about being born either! I promise- technology hasn't advanced that far. NONE of us asked to be here.

Similarly, every single one us was born into a world where the previous generation made all the available choices.

You might want to read that sentence a few times. It should be obvious to you that yours is not the first generation to be born into a world where the people before you were the ones who made all the "available choices" (because, YOU WERE NOT HERE YET- THE PEOPLE ALREADY HERE ARE THE ONES WHO HAD TO MAKE THE CHOICES).

Maybe it's the language barrier, but I don't understand this sentence that you wrote: "other people had a choice to avoid this world but they did nothing because they did not care..."

Again, none of us get a say in being born, so.....

a reply to: WarriorMH

Well... I feel like I've lived this before in all you just said. Happened last night when I asked my daughter to help me wish the supper dishes.

Apparently we are equal beings in this house although she has no job or life outside the house but doesn't feel she should have to do anything that I particularly ask her to. In fact, the other day I said, "thank you", to her when she cleaned up her couch area. And I got in trouble for saying thank you to her.

The similarity I am pointing out is 17 year olds (-/+) have all the answers but none of the lived wisdom.

But, I do not mean that with any disrespect. I will only say that there is no "debating" or "arguing" or "discussing" with you. But, somehow it makes me feel I am living normal right now through these teen years.

Thanks for the validation.

originally posted by: KansasGirl
a reply to: WarriorMH


A summary of your post:

"Everything is your fault- or someone else's fault but mine, anyway.

You allowed stuff on TV, and I cannot think for myself. You allowed it to be on TV, and I watched that TV and believe and buy everything I watch...,so the state of affairs is your fault. I cannot and will not think for myself or accept any responsibility. For anything."

sounds about right for today's youth.

Do we need to give you a blue ribbon for Participation?

i don't think you read my post without bias

i said I don't have a tv, these issues are not mine, i dont have this problem but i can see how it could happen. And you trying to push the blame to the younger generations about something you don't like about them, how does that look like?

Why so defensive? does it affect you in some way?

a reply to: AthlonSavage

Mabey we will see soon woman dressed only in tatooes walking the shopping malls.

Apparently they do in Vegas.. thats what I was told anyhow, by someone who holidays there frequently.
You couldn’t pay me to go to Vegas...😒.. not my idea of a good time.