Fox & Friends Poll Designed to Discredit Medicare for All Explodes in Their Face

Looks like Fox & Friends ran a poll about Medicare for all in the face of the Koch funded report recently out.



Seems that 73% of respondents, (i.e. people who watch Fox) thought (even with the derogatory wording) that Medicare for All was worth the expense.

Hmmm --- a watershed moment perhaps.

www.commondreams.org...

From the article:

As Common Dreams reported, right-wing Daily Caller editor Virginia Kruta attended a rally last week featuring a speech by democratic socialist congressional candidate Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

In an appearance on Fox News, Kruta recounted the "truly terrifying" experience of hearing Ocasio-Cortez advocate policies that "everybody wants, especially if you're a parent."

Personally, I think the same demographic would favor cutting military spending, infrastruture spending, and perhaps even fossil fuel reductions via massive green energy spending.



But - Maybe .... it's the Russians.

a reply to: FyreByrd


How much does America spend on "healthcare" now? $33 Trillion over 10 years might be a bargain?

Edit: I see in 2015, it was $3.2 Trillion.
Source: www.forbes.com...

theintercept.com...

But what the Associated Press headline fails to announce is a much more sanguine update: The report, by Senior Research Strategist Charles Blahous, found that under Sanders’s plan, overall health costs would go down, and wages would go up.

The study, which came out of the Koch-funded research center, was initially provided to the AP with a cost estimate that exceeded previous ones by an incredible $3 trillion — a massive error that was found and corrected by Sanders’s staff when approached by AP for comment.

Blahous’s paper, titled “The Costs of a National Single-Payer Healthcare System,” estimates total national health expenditures. Even though his cost-saving estimates are more conservative than others, he acknowledges that Sanders’s “Medicare for All” plan would yield a $482 billion reduction in health care spending, and over $1.5 trillion in administrative savings, for a total of $2 trillion less in overall health care expenditures between 2022 and 2031, compared to current spending.

Open the link and read the article if you dare to be open minded.

a reply to: FyreByrd

President Trump should join Democrats on the "Medicare for All" bandwagon. That would be VERY SMART!

a reply to: FyreByrd

I agree with Bernie with this issue and college.

Our country is expected to compete with countries that "provide" (not free-tax) this for their citizens and many will provide it for US citizens as well.

Our system is broken. It will become apparent soon.

a reply to: FyreByrd

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According to Nielsen Live +7-day data, in 2017 CNN’s median age was 60, while the median age of the Fox News and MSNBC viewer was 65.

FOX News viewers likely spit their dentures thinking the poll was asking whether the programs those retirees get their prescriptions and doc visits through were worth the expense.

Honestly, I don't give a rat's ass how many Americans support it... I'm not paying for your damn healthcare. I'll cover my own responsibilities, as I always have, please feel free to do the same.

a reply to: FyreByrd

I don't know much about American politics due to my constant shrugging of shoulders All I know though is that I live in the UK and I am so thankful the the NHS (whatever the foreign media try to portray it as) I have had need to go to hospital, go to the Doctors, go to the Dentist.. have my eyes tested and my mum died of cancer when I was young.. the care I have received from them has always been outstanding, I will forever be very apposed to any government here who ever tries to get rid of it in place of private healthcare. The UK's problem is generally management of the service, we have a healthcare system that is envied throughout the world (in fact we even have Americans coming here to be treated because it's cheaper, even privately) but in principle the service is truly amazing.

Again, I never understand the argument of not treating people because they can't afford treatment. A person in pain is a person in pain just from a humanitarian perspective in this day age no one should be untreated when they are poorly. While we all pay for the NHS through national Insurance it is based on income and is such a small amount you don't notice it out your wage packet. Knowing if I ever need to be treated I have a world class health service who will do their best to make me better.

originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: FyreByrd

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According to Nielsen Live +7-day data, in 2017 CNN’s median age was 60, while the median age of the Fox News and MSNBC viewer was 65.

FOX News viewers likely spit their dentures thinking the poll was asking whether the programs those retirees get their prescriptions and doc visits through were worth the expense.

Honestly, I don't give a rat's ass how many Americans support it... I'm not paying for your damn healthcare. I'll cover my own responsibilities, as I always have, please feel free to do the same.

Being rather selfish and self serving, are you? What happens if you become disabled, loose your job and to soon to qualify for Medicare and you need surgery that overall, costs 40 50 thousand dollars. It could happen. Life is unpredictable and you could find yourself in circumstances similar to this. It could happen. Luck COULD bite you in the arse.


PS: It did happen to me. Fortunately, I was able to continue me employer insurance at my own expense for 2 years after I was laid off in Jan. 2009 and had to have my thyroid removed for cancer during that period. Sheat happens.

open borders and free stuff for everybody yay

most logical plan on the planet NOTTTTT

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: FyreByrd

President Trump should join Democrats on the "Medicare for All" bandwagon. That would be VERY SMART!

Trump join with the socialist on anything; you think that would be VERY SMART? Yeah, let's have health care like those communist Canadians; so smart!!

originally posted by: atsgrounded
a reply to: FyreByrd

I agree with Bernie with this issue and college.

Our country is expected to compete with countries that "provide" (not free-tax) this for their citizens and many will provide it for US citizens as well.

Our system is broken. It will become apparent soon.

Look at the boon to smallish business - no need to provide health care (beyond the added business part of medicare) no Worker's Comp insurance. Those two alone would increase the viability of small business in this country.

originally posted by: atsgrounded
a reply to: FyreByrd

I agree with Bernie with this issue and college.

Our country is expected to compete with countries that "provide" (not free-tax) this for their citizens and many will provide it for US citizens as well.

Our system is broken. It will become apparent soon.

Look at the boon to smallish business - no need to provide health care (beyond the added business part of medicare) no Worker's Comp insurance. Those two alone would increase the viability of small business in this country.

originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: FyreByrd
Honestly, I don't give a rat's ass how many Americans support it... I'm not paying for your damn healthcare. I'll cover my own responsibilities, as I always have, please feel free to do the same.

I won't do the same because I do care about yours. And if you ended up unemployed and lost all of your assets through some incredibly bad luck, I'd be happy knowing you can still go to the doctor to remove that stone where your heart should be.

Double postsies

a reply to: burdman30ott6

If you belong/buy into any sort of insurance you are doing exactly what you don't want to do. Private insurance is privatized socialism.

Honestly, I don't give a rat's ass how many Americans support it... I'm not paying for your damn healthcare. I'll cover my own responsibilities, as I always have, please feel free to do the same.

Do you have home insurance?

originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: FyreByrd

www.adweek.com...

According to Nielsen Live +7-day data, in 2017 CNN’s median age was 60, while the median age of the Fox News and MSNBC viewer was 65.

FOX News viewers likely spit their dentures thinking the poll was asking whether the programs those retirees get their prescriptions and doc visits through were worth the expense.

Honestly, I don't give a rat's ass how many Americans support it... I'm not paying for your damn healthcare. I'll cover my own responsibilities, as I always have, please feel free to do the same.

As is often said, to the truly self-centered 1 of 310,000,000 (if you are a US citizen):

a reply to: FyreByrd

I content single payer would cause a boom to the econ that would be second only to post WW II. Everyone who feels (is) trapped in a corp job who stays for the med bens can start their own business. It would be earth shaking.

Look at the boon to smallish business - no need to provide health care (beyond the added business part of medicare) no Worker's Comp insurance. Those two alone would increase the viability of small business in this country.

Big but----The corps will not give up this HUGE control over there workers. It will have to be taken at the ballot box. It will not be given.

originally posted by: atsgrounded
a reply to: burdman30ott6

If you belong/buy into any sort of insurance you are dong exactly what you don't want to do. Private insurance is privatized socialism.

Honestly, I don't give a rat's ass how many Americans support it... I'm not paying for your damn healthcare. I'll cover my own responsibilities, as I always have, please feel free to do the same.

Interesting, and valid, way of putting it. Thank you!!!!

originally posted by: CharlesT

originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: FyreByrd

www.adweek.com...

According to Nielsen Live +7-day data, in 2017 CNN’s median age was 60, while the median age of the Fox News and MSNBC viewer was 65.

FOX News viewers likely spit their dentures thinking the poll was asking whether the programs those retirees get their prescriptions and doc visits through were worth the expense.

Honestly, I don't give a rat's ass how many Americans support it... I'm not paying for your damn healthcare. I'll cover my own responsibilities, as I always have, please feel free to do the same.

Being rather selfish and self serving, are you? What happens if you become disabled, loose your job and to soon to qualify for Medicare and you need surgery that overall, costs 40 50 thousand dollars. It could happen. Life is unpredictable and you could find yourself in circumstances similar to this. It could happen. Luck COULD bite you in the arse.

I dont play the what if game.....have money set aside for medical through my retirement account and other places......point is, we shouldnt be forced to pay for other people's health care. right now I have a liability policy and it only covers catastrophic, it is very affordable, and covers me in the event of prolonged illness, everything else is out of pokcet......I dont want to change my plan , nor be taxed more than I already am to pay for someone I dont even know.

a reply to: FyreByrd

if we have free medicare for all (using the term free loosely) that means we have very strict border control and immigration policy right?