Trump: “Tariffs are the greatest.” Also farmers need $12 billion in aid because of tariffs.

One wonder's how the Chinese people feel about not getting the things they love, and it seems some here see no impact. Take soy bean, we are not talking phones here. The US produces over 50% of the world supply, China loves our soy beans and in the last 10 years has had a massive increase in imports from a steady 400 mil to 1.5 bil, massive imports...so who is going to fill that gap? Does the Chinese population agree to go without their soy bean or will they push back against their own Government to come to a agreement?

a reply to: Xtrozero

You'll blow a few fuses by asking some to think logically like that, lol.

The administration’s plan, which has yet to be formally released, would reportedly be aimed at stabilizing the agricultural industry through three programs:

1. Direct financial assistance for farmers.

2. A purchase and distribution program, where the government buys up surplus agricultural products and redistributes them for low-income food assistance.

3. A trade promotion program.

I don't have a problem with any of that. Help farmers keep their farms rather than have them taken by the banks. Buy the excess food and give it to needy Americans. If the Chinese or anyone else doesn't want to buy the food, fine.

Let them eat steel.

Or even better, let them close down their steel plants and turn them into farms. They would be doing their environment a favor.

originally posted by: manuelram16
Second Thread on the 12 billion, #3 in 1,2,3.....

If the Chinese are anything, it's patient...

originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
a reply to: MiddleInsite

You do realize Obamacare was the most Fascist legislation that ever happened in the US?

Yeah and now he’s crying because the good guys aren’t fixing it fast enough. Hold your horses cowboy this stuff takes time. In the meantime enjoy the booming economy and lower taxes!

a reply to: VictorVonDoom

Buy the excess food and give it to needy Americans.

Great idea....won't happen.

Is this bailout for actual farmers or is this for the giant Agro-Corps?

Because if this is for billion dollar corporations, I'm going to be not pleased.

originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: manuelram16
Second Thread on the 12 billion, #3 in 1,2,3.....

If the Chinese are anything, it's patient...

Maybe in the good ole days, but today, I'll have to disagree with you on that. Todays kids in China on the east coast don't know what work is. They know what US lolly pops are though.

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

Forced taxation.

No choice.

FASCIST!

Communism does that too.

a reply to: carewemust

a reply to: Whatthedoctorordered

They wait it out until we dont have the money to do it anymore, then guess what?

They can’t wait that long. You see that’s the point here, we are in a much better position to “wait it out” than they are. That’s precisely why we will win.

I’m not for bailing out large corporations. They should have to bite the bullet. If they can’t handle the pressure then they should sell to those that can.

The last thing that will happen is the farm equipment grind to a halt. Food is in short supply around many parts of the world. It will sell.

If the big corporations have to make 329 MILLION instead of 381 MILLION in profit then I say boo hoo cry me a river.

a reply to: Southern Guardian


They can’t wait that long. You see that’s the point here, we are in a much better position to “wait it out” than they are. That’s precisely why we will win.

I’m not for bailing out large corporations. They should have to bite the bullet. If they can’t handle the pressure then they should sell to those that can.

The last thing that will happen is the farm equipment grind to a halt. Food is in short supply around many parts of the world. It will sell.

If the big corporations have to make 329 MILLION instead of 381 MILLION in profit then I say boo hoo cry me a river.

a reply to: The GUT

I can wait another 2 years without beef or American dairy. I'm not picky. Canada has a well established pork industry especially where I live. Long live the pig!!

originally posted by: watchitburn
Is this bailout for actual farmers or is this for the giant Agro-Corps?

Because if this is for billion dollar corporations, I'm going to be not pleased.

Knowing Trumps past mega tax break for the rich; what do you think?

Thanks Obama.

a reply to: Southern Guardian

What, negotiating doesnt produce immediate results? Have you ever negotiated anything outside of a flea market?

originally posted by: caterpillage
Well, better to give money to American farmers than on funding foreign wars right????

What makes you think they are going to stop funding foreign wars?

originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: watchitburn
Is this bailout for actual farmers or is this for the giant Agro-Corps?

Because if this is for billion dollar corporations, I'm going to be not pleased.

Knowing Trumps past mega tax break for the rich; what do you think?

Have you thanked a rich person lately...

a reply to: Southern Guardian

I wonder if this is mostly about farmers that sell on a global market?? I live in a farming community, work on farm trucks all the time, and the only thing any of them have talked about having a hard time with, is hay. Not as bad as last year though. Last year they were pooling funds together to make runs out of state for it.

originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: The GUT

I can wait another 2 years without beef or American dairy. I'm not picky. Canada has a well established pork industry especially where I live. Long live the pig!!

There ya' go, I like that spirit. That's how I feel from my side too!

The playing field does need to be leveled a bit. Most of the former Presidents bitched about it but did nothing and kicked the can down the road. So now we got a guy who's willing to address it and knows how to make deals.

Also part of the tariff strategy: Anyone who understands geopolitics knows that China is our biggest threat by far. Trump has addressed that threat and frankly it was now or never because China is positioning to be the superpower.

But back to simple economics: We may have to suck it up a bit but we're going to see the U.S. regain a significant amount of manufacturing capabilities as just one benefit on the horizon. I know a lot of farmers and they'll be fine 'cause growers gonna grow, but I think helping out our farmers--in such a small way really--is a good example of proper use of subsidy.