The US is a corporate subsidiary of the Crown

a reply to: paraphi

Control or influence over a country is not as simple as being its lender, or controlling its money supply. The central banks would not have the enormous income they have without the people in the government waging wars and various methods of spending up a storm, putting several or all developed countries into enormous debt.

Look at your history. The First Bank of the United States consisted of 80% or so of foreign shareholders. The land and property Of the US started out being owned by foreign people. Americans *were* foreign people. At what point did the land belong to the "Americans"? Was it confiscated?

Anyway if the First Bank of the United States was dependent on foreign establishments, I doubt much changed. Even Morgan was said to be a foreign agent as were Jekyll Island meeting members.

I do remember seeing a documentary a few years ago about a document they found in a basement of an old bank in the city of London that was supposed to prove that the US was still paying taxes to the crown in return for the illusion that they gained independence.

I do not believe that is the case, or even if it was, it no longer applies.

I think the whole bowing thing is just being courteous, that plus everyone loves the Queen, she is a lovely human being who has been around for a very long time and has a natural ability to bring the best out in people and make them smile.

a reply to: TheConstruKctionofLight

Link is broken

a reply to: woogleuk

Not being facetious but do you know the Queen personally?
I don't, she could be a total tyrant with a sweet smile for all I know.

a reply to: nOraKat

www.indiatimes.com... 642.html

Try again this should work...sorry

a reply to: CornishCeltGuy

Ah..that darling "smile"

www.sxolsout.org.uk...

The Queen's holdings in Rio Tinto Zinc (RTZ) was first brought to public attention by a leak from a source at the Bank of England to Andrew Morton, who wrote the authorized biography of Diana. Philip Beresford, author of 'The Book of the British Rich', written in conjunction with the Sunday Times of London, found the Queen tends to invest in "blue chip'' stocks, including Rio Tinto Zinc, General Electric Company of Great Britain, Imperial Chemical Industries, Royal Dutch Shell, and British Petroleum. Among those acting as royal cut-outs and nominees are S.G. Warburg's subsidiary Rowe & Pitman, Barings and Cazanove.

Forbes magazine also reported the Queen is a major RTZ shareholder, as is the Bank of England. Charles Higham, co-author of Elizabeth and Philip, also states the Queen is a major stockholder in RTZ, which, with her old friends at Anglo-American, controls 12% of the world's precious, strategic, and base metals and minerals. In 1976, the U.S. Senate Foreign Relations Committee found that an international cartel, of which RTZ was a major partner, had been formed in 1971 to fix the world's uranium prices. A federal grand jury found corroborating evidence of RTZ's role.

To protect RTZ's directors and their richest shareholder, the Queen, Lord Denning and the Law Lords quashed Westinghouse's ability to take depositions in the United Kingdom. On June 16, 1976, in hearings in the U.S. House Interstate and Foreign Commerce Subcommittee Jerry McAfee, chairman of Gulf Oil admitted that the cartel in which RTZ was his partner had criminally conspired to falsely increase the price of uranium on world markets.

en.wikipedia.org...

Labour and human rights Activist groups have also expressed concern regarding Rio Tinto's operations in Papua New Guinea, which they allege were one catalyst of the Bougainville separatist crisis.[99] The British antipoverty charity War on Want has also criticised Rio Tinto for its complicity in the serious human rights violations which have occurred near the mines it operates in Indonesia and Papua New Guinea.[100] On 31 January 2010, Rio Tinto locked out nearly 600 workers from a mine in Boron, California, USA.[101] Rio Tinto was also accused of planning and funding the murder of RTI activist Shehla Masood in Bhopal, India.

Apparently, she was protesting illegal diamond mining done by Rio Tinto in connivance with government officers. The case was, however, solved and no connection to Rio Tinto was established, though popular opinion still perceives them as the possible culprit.[102][103][104][105]

a reply to: TheConstruKctionofLight

Yes. I beleive the English crown is still holding the reins of power world wide. The cover story is too good.

Its just my gut feeling. All royalty still is in power but in a new system and power structure we know next to nothing about TRULY.

Seems like a concensus was reached after the American and French revolutions and infighting stopped. A second revolution was put off in the US when the constitution was written behind closed doors and our republic was forged with a debt to be RE-paid by its OWNERS to their former masters/ as closer equals.

They probably made a caste system with some lateral movement into positions of power over the cattle (us). Adminiatrators (Our unelected leaders) get compensated to adminsiter the royal's holdings.

We were wild and untamed. Old money from Europe took us over via the banks.

a reply to: TheConstruKctionofLight

Nope you get a 404.

Try using the link button to post it - square w arrow pointing diagonally to the upper right.

a reply to: tadaman

I think the real power is held behind the scenes. So did Buckminster Fuller -

"Great battles ensued—waged under the flags of England, France, and Spain—to determine who would become supreme master of the world's high-seas line of supply. These great nations were simply the operating fronts of behind-the-scenes, vastly ambitious individuals who had become so effectively powerful because of their ability to remain invisible while operating behind the national scenery. Always their victories were in the name of some powerful sovereign-ruled country. The real power structures were always the invisible ones behind the visible sovereign powers."

"world-power-stature individuals who vied for supreme mastery of the world's high seas lines of supply also operated invisibly through monarchs and nations over whom they had sufficient influence. Through such behind-the-throne influence the influenced nation's resources could be politically maneuvered into paying for the building and operation of the navies and armies that would seek to establish and protect their respective privately owned enterprises."

- Quotes from Buckminster Fuller, Critical Path

a reply to: nOraKat

Its still the same deal - people using/owning governments to further their private enterprises and agendas.

a reply to: tadaman

I always though there was something to the story in some of these sovereign movement sites. We're numbered through social security or tax file numbers and used as collateral for further loans. The taxation on the sheep goes towards this never payable sovereign debt.

A lot of people say Govts print their own money - and when they loan to say Greece they get to loot National treasures, toll roads and give to their mates etc.

Now if it was so simple about printing your own money - LOL

Its usually some interests of the Rothschild that are on these Boards. So there must be some form of collateral for Govts to keep printing and expanding the money base.


Who holds these IOU's

a reply to: nOraKat

www.indiatimes.com... 642.html

Strange

This definitely works in google 1st result takes you there

www.indiatimes.com... These Are The 13 Families In The World That Apparently Control Everything - From Politics To Terrorism

a reply to: TheConstruKctionofLight

India Times is 'Unavailable to Europe'?

a reply to: TheConstruKctionofLight

Basic economics. Printing money that is not connected with economic growth will create inflation. This is because the value of money will fall. It's a silly idea to "just print money". It does not work.

a reply to: TheConstruKctionofLight

Here I found your link:

Families In The World That Apparently Control Everything


Not sure about that list.

The big dogs are prob in Switzerland - Link

All these families have an international presence.

a reply to: TheConstruKctionofLight

The Crown in the crossfire again - Prince Charles protecting pedophile priests

"Prince Charles backtracking on sex abuse priest support - some are above the Law"
www.abovetopsecret.com...