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Why are They trying to make the New Russia into an an enemy of the United States?

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posted on Jul, 17 2018 @ 08:54 PM
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originally posted by: Taggart

Crimea a neighbour? Sure.. if you Pretend Ukraine does not exist.


That's their neighborhood, not ours. And if we do that kind of BS in our neighborhood ("we" do) AND theirs ("we" do), we're as over the top brazen brutal hypocrites as there has ever been in the history of Homo sapiens.


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posted on Jul, 17 2018 @ 08:54 PM
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originally posted by: Willtell
Putin isn’t perfect of course, by no means, but he IMO did some good in the ME.

Funny way to say a tyrant and murderer
But best not to be a critic of him
Critics end up dead



posted on Jul, 17 2018 @ 08:58 PM
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a reply to: SaturnFX

That's Obama. Obama did worse brutal imperialism in 8 years than Putin did his whole career. You hate Obama too, right? By the way Google was instrumental in triggering the Arab Spring, and the Syrian civil war; was damn near part of Obama's cabinet. And Kurzweil is their chief technological evangelist or whatever they call him (something like that). Your idol.




posted on Jul, 17 2018 @ 09:08 PM
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a reply to: Taggart

........."is this the new tactic defend Russia because your country is worse?? WOW - speechless"..........

Well maybe not who is worse - But who is any better?

No matter whose side your on, or think your on - The conspiracies, power struggles continue.

One thing I liked about the philosopher Friedrich Nietzche is how he would cut through the BS and tell it like it is
- History is, was, and maybe always will be a will to power - a power struggle.

Maybe it was easier to figure it out when it was us vs. them - Capitalists vs. Communists
- But thats all over - Ths Chinese effectively assimilated two econonomic systems, Socialism and Capitalism
and, like it or not did a dam good job of it - Whose econonmy has made the most progress in the last 30
years or so - America, Russia, or China ?

Turning Russia, because of a litlle political hanky-panky, which 'we' do all the time, into our enemy is insane
- The Chinese must love it - All the way to the bank!
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posted on Jul, 17 2018 @ 09:10 PM
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originally posted by: seeker1963
Ummmmm, why should I care what you have to say when you called me a "Coward, traitor and scum"? I support my Constitution and country I served in the military!



Any Soldier...American soldier that is, would be simply disgusted at the commander and chief selling out the US overtly and siding with those whom was responsible indirectly and in some cases directly with the deaths of soo many REAL US soldiers in Korea and Vietnam. I am not talking about Russia mind you, I am discussing Putin and his KGB style desire for a USSR revival under a slightly different branding.



posted on Jul, 17 2018 @ 09:12 PM
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originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
a reply to: SaturnFX

That's Obama. Obama did worse brutal imperialism in 8 years than Putin did his whole career. You hate Obama too, right? By the way Google was instrumental in triggering the Arab Spring, and the Syrian civil war; was damn near part of Obama's cabinet. And Kurzweil is their chief technological evangelist or whatever they call him (something like that). Your idol.


Obama made mistakes, but never sucked the ---- of Putin while giving the finger to America on live TV.

Kurzweil is awesome, but thats besides the point..you hate tech or something?
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posted on Jul, 17 2018 @ 09:24 PM
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a reply to: SaturnFX

He just worked to sell out the United States of America to globalist multinational corporatists. OOOOPS!


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posted on Jul, 17 2018 @ 09:24 PM
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originally posted by: ketsuko

originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

originally posted by: Willtell

Much better than the US who have destabilized the area since 911.


Since the 1950's. All "justified" to be the ones doing it before the USSR could.


If you want to go back that far, then you really need to start pointing fingers at the European nations who held the land and divvied it up.


That was the UK in particular, post WW1. After WW2 it became overwhelmingly the domain of American Imperialism (assuming "we're" not still pawns of the UK hrmmm...).
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posted on Jul, 17 2018 @ 09:26 PM
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a reply to: AlienView


I was shocked to hear that Russia is in such bad shape economically, that their Gross Domestic Product (GDP) is less than the country of ITALY. Is that true?



posted on Jul, 17 2018 @ 09:38 PM
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a reply to: SaturnFX

So its okay to go down on (Communist) China, just so long as not giving (no-longer-Communist) Russia a hand job?


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posted on Jul, 17 2018 @ 10:05 PM
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a reply to: SaturnFX

Nah, Obama just did it to the Middle Eastern nations of the world.
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posted on Jul, 17 2018 @ 10:12 PM
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originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
a reply to: SaturnFX

He just worked to sell out the United States of America to globalist multinational corporatists. OOOOPS!



you right now: "I am going to completely ignore the current POTUS siding with Putin against the USA on international TV in favor of moaning about conspiracy trash from the previous administration".



posted on Jul, 17 2018 @ 10:14 PM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: SaturnFX

Nah, Obama just did it to the Middle Eastern nations of the world.

Post vid showing Obama slamming the US while high-5ing (basically) a tyrannical dictator....or not because it doesn't exist and its ultimately a piss poor deflection at the topic at hand.



posted on Jul, 17 2018 @ 10:16 PM
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originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
a reply to: SaturnFX

So its okay to go down on (Communist) China, just so long as not giving (no-longer-Communist) Russia a hand job?


Both nations are to be brought to task.
I am happy enough with Trump playing hardball with China..it was one of my hopes as POTUS...also I have given props for now on how NK is turning out...so long as he doesn't go on air standing next to lil Kim talking about how America sucks and Kim seems soo passionate when he said he is the good guy.

Sorry...did you have a point?



posted on Jul, 17 2018 @ 11:40 PM
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originally posted by: SaturnFX

originally posted by: Willtell
Putin isn’t perfect of course, by no means, but he IMO did some good in the ME.

Funny way to say a tyrant and murderer
But best not to be a critic of him
Critics end up dead


All these leaders are murderers. Do you know how many people George Bush and Obama murdered with their drones?

What you have to understand is that in order to be a leader of a country you have to have the mentality of a serial killer.

That's the way of this world



posted on Jul, 18 2018 @ 04:43 AM
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The people that think Trump was elected to save them from the globalist cabal are in for a rude awakening. Why do you suppose that a lot of the same entities like Cambridge Analytica, Facebook, etc. that helped Obama get elected also were instrumental in Trump's election? The globalists wanted Trump to defeat Hillary. Why? Because it just indirectly fast-tracked their agenda. Look around you, everything that Trump stands for or at least pretends to represent, national sovereignty for example, is now taboo. It plays directly into their hands. Trump is the undertaker of for everything we once knew and loved about this country. Once America falls it is all systems go for the globalist agenda.

We've already lost, folks.




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