Implant Removal Subjects Discuss After-Effects

I originally posted this link in my debate with onlyinmydreams but it is still a very interesting read, so I thought I would post it here.

Anyone have any abduction/implant experiences and are comfortable in sharing, please do!

The first set of "implant" surgeries took place on August 19, 1995 at Dr. Roger Leir's podiatry clinic in Thousand Oaks, California. The subjects were Pat Parrinello, a 47 year old male from Houston, Texas, and Mary Jones (a pseudonym) 52, also from Texas. Both individuals were investigated by Derrel Sims and referred to Dr. Roger Leir for surgery, based on their past UFO encounters and X-rays which confirmed anomalous objects in their bodies. Pat's object was removed from the back of his left hand, and Mary's objects excised from her left big toe. All services were performed free of charge.

A second set of implant surgeries took place on May 18, 1996. Two women from this second group came forward for this follow-up study. Dorothy O'Hara, a 61 year old female from Palm Springs, California, and Alice Leavy, 40, from Newberry Park, California, each had similar objects removed from their left lower leg. [A man in this second group who had a metallic object removed from the tissue below his lower left jaw did not participate in this follow-up study. -- ed.]

Another woman, Licia Davidson, 37, who has had numerous UFO encounters, had a crystalline-like object removed from her foot in January of 1997.

www.cfree.org...

The two women who had "biological" type implants removed [apparently non-metallic, organic objects], experienced strikingly similar post surgical changes, involving shooting pains and reddening of the incision scar for a short period of time.

I wouldn't put much stock into this swift report. There are alot of medical problems that can develop post-surgery. An infection of the surgical area would not be uncommon, particularly in a non-sterile Podiatry office. Blaming it on the implant is convenient, but may not necessarily reflect medical reality.

I'm also curious about these organic implants.. I'm sure it is possible, but what is their composition?

Originally posted by MKULTRA

The two women who had "biological" type implants removed [apparently non-metallic, organic objects], experienced strikingly similar post surgical changes, involving shooting pains and reddening of the incision scar for a short period of time.

I wouldn't put much stock into this swift report. There are alot of medical problems that can develop post-surgery. An infection of the surgical area would not be uncommon, particularly in a non-sterile Podiatry office. Blaming it on the implant is convenient, but may not necessarily reflect medical reality.

I'm also curious about these organic implants.. I'm sure it is possible, but what is their composition?

and also, how come each person has the implant in the left part of their body. Is that of any importants?

Good question! I know that there are neurological left-handers, it is a genetic phenomenon, and these folks tend to have bilaterally-reversed brain function. It is actually referred to as, "Sinistrality"- deriving from the left hand being associated with the devil.

Perhaps these are truly the mark of the devil.....

The third patient, a man in his mid-30s, presented a very different situation. He does not believe he has had alien encounters. Instead, he believes an object was inserted into the flesh of his neck below his left jaw during dental surgery for the removal of a molar several years ago.

At the time, he was employed by a Department of Defense subcontractor, and the dentist was recommended to him by his employer. No evidence was offered as to why the dentist or the employer would be involved in placing an implant in this man. However, he said that immediately after the dental surgery, he began hearing two distinct voices in his head. He had himself examined and tested by several different specialists in an effort to rid himself of the annoying voices, but to no avail. Finally, he underwent MRI and x-ray scans, which clearly revealed the presence of a foreign object in the tissue below his left jaw.

The operation to remove this object was much more difficult than the other two surgeries. A device called a flouroscan was used to locate the object during the surgery. Despite clear x-rays, Dr. Leir said that without the flouroscan it would have been extremely difficult to remove the object, which was at least one-half inch below the surface of the man's neck and shrouded in fatty tissue. From the moment of the first incision, the surgeons took 31 minutes to finally remove the object.

This writer was allowed a brief look at the object. It appeared metallic, silver-gray in color and shaped like a tiny flat disc, approximately 3 millimeters in diameter.

The physicians noted that there had been no scar on the man's face indicating the penetration of such an object from the outside. It is therefore possible that the object was inserted from inside the mouth.

The man had received a local anesthetic and was able to leave the clinic shortly after the conclusion of his surgery. However, his operation had obviously been a physical and emotional ordeal for him, and he declined to answer questions.

I pulled this off of the same site that DR linked. It is possible that his oral surgeon accidentally left a surgical device in his jaw. If this were the case, these voices heard in a conversation could be indicative of a formal thought disorder. The department of defense reference was interesting.

Originally posted by MKULTRA

Good question! I know that there are neurological left-handers, it is a genetic phenomenon, and these folks tend to have bilaterally-reversed brain function. It is actually referred to as, "Sinistrality"- deriving from the left hand being associated with the devil.

Perhaps these are truly the mark of the devil.....

So would it be safe to assume that whoever/whatever is putting these stuff in these people are not good... things?

So would it be safe to assume that whoever/whatever is putting these stuff in these people are not good... things?

Well, these things could be purely accidental. There just isn't enough evidence about the objects themselves to say one way or the other. Who knows what they really are, and how they got there?

I think that beyond the abduction aspect, these are medically interesting cases. A thorough clinical work-up should be done on ANY foreign bodies taken out of the body, particularly to test for toxicity.

Are they really alien implant experiencers, or are they victims of some form of bizarre illuminati experiment with bio-engines? Or something completely different?

I don't know how fair or right this is of me to discuss someone elses experience..but I'll do so without giving away too much info.

Someone very close to me who came down with throat cancer..was found to have some sort of implant in their neck which showed through on the X-ray or scan..they did not want it removed at first, but several years later decided to have it removed and tested to see what it was/is. It was sent out and tested and all the doctor told them was that it was very unusual and could not have gotten there without being placed via surgery..
This person was severely ill for a long time and was full of radiation *according to the doctor* but after the object was removed, they felt almost completely well...

That's pretty much all I can say..I feel bad for talking about someone kind of behind their back *although I'm sure they wouldn't mind me telling their story*

This person has had a close encounter of the first kind or whatever it's called..so we think that this could be how it was placed inside their neck and *possibly* how they came down with cancer?? We just don't know.

If you have any questions..I'll certainly try to answer the best I can.
Magestica

I envision a future where aliens do not implant experimental neurological devices, but qualified doctors implant cognitively enhancing computer chips in various parts of the brain.

I think it is less than 20 years away. I'll get one if I can verify that there are no autonomous mind control routines present in the chip or triggerable by the supplier.

But dragonrider has convinced me that any such technology supplied to qualifed doctors would indeed be purpose-built to control my free will.

Maybe I won't get one.