Christian Leaders To Jeff Sessions: The Bible Does Not Justify Separating Families

originally posted by: RowanBean

originally posted by: Alien Abduct

originally posted by: RowanBean
a reply to: Alien Abduct

Oh it wasn't you. It was the other poster who said the citizens of other countries are responsible for their countries.

My apologies.

Could you explain in detail how your Jewish citizens example is relevant to this discussion?

The other poster said that the asylum seekers or whoever tries to enter this country illegally are responsible for their countries being that way. That poster also said why don't they protest the human right violations in their countries.
Hence why I brought up Jews as an example because they fought and lost.

Ah I see. Well I think that your example is a horrible comparison to the situation occurring south of the American border and I would even say that it borderlines on disrespect to those millions that died.

That being said I understand the spirit of your argument, as fatuous as it is.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: RowanBean

Nobody likes a loser.

True, sad and funny at the same time. Good timing hahahaha!

originally posted by: Alien Abduct

originally posted by: RowanBean

originally posted by: Alien Abduct

originally posted by: RowanBean
a reply to: Alien Abduct

Oh it wasn't you. It was the other poster who said the citizens of other countries are responsible for their countries.

My apologies.

Could you explain in detail how your Jewish citizens example is relevant to this discussion?

The other poster said that the asylum seekers or whoever tries to enter this country illegally are responsible for their countries being that way. That poster also said why don't they protest the human right violations in their countries.
Hence why I brought up Jews as an example because they fought and lost.

Ah I see. Well I think that your example is a horrible comparison to the situation occurring south of the American border and I would even say that it borderlines on disrespect to those millions that died.

That being said I understand the spirit of your argument, as fatuous as it is.

At least you understand the spirit of my argument. Basically the other poster said the citizens of whatever countries they live in are at fault.
Too many families in South America have their lives at risk, including their children, despite fighting. What else can they do, really? If it was you with your children in a s#hole of a country what would you do? Stay put, try to fight, or get out of there and go elsewhere?

Total fake news. This is just pure propaganda. Some of the pictures are actually staged too.

www.infowars.com...

This is just more media manufactured anti-Trump propaganda. They probably don't want you to look at the IG report. You know the document that shows an FBI investigator was looking into Clinton Foundation crimes and crimes against children.

originally posted by: RowanBean

originally posted by: Alien Abduct

originally posted by: RowanBean

originally posted by: Alien Abduct

originally posted by: RowanBean
a reply to: Alien Abduct

Oh it wasn't you. It was the other poster who said the citizens of other countries are responsible for their countries.

My apologies.

Could you explain in detail how your Jewish citizens example is relevant to this discussion?

The other poster said that the asylum seekers or whoever tries to enter this country illegally are responsible for their countries being that way. That poster also said why don't they protest the human right violations in their countries.
Hence why I brought up Jews as an example because they fought and lost.

Ah I see. Well I think that your example is a horrible comparison to the situation occurring south of the American border and I would even say that it borderlines on disrespect to those millions that died.

That being said I understand the spirit of your argument, as fatuous as it is.

At least you understand the spirit of my argument. Basically the other poster said the citizens of whatever countries they live in are at fault.
Too many families in South America have their lives at risk, including their children, despite fighting. What else can they do, really? If it was you with your children in a s#hole of a country what would you do? Stay put, try to fight, or get out of there and go elsewhere?

Honestly I really don’t have a straight answer to that question. I think that I would try and get myself into the United States and try to make the situation better for my family. But I don’t know if I would attempt to take my children along and risk them being taken by any government. I think what I would do is to go alone instead, then try and somehow make arrangements to get my family over later in a more safe manner.

It’s a risk either way but exposing my family to that risk seems imprudent. It’s a tough situation for them absolutely, but the United States shouldn’t have to bare the burden of the faults of the failures of other countries systems/governments/societies.

I think we as a country of humans have the duty to help other humans in other countries but I also believe we need to look out for ourselves first. If we don’t then we might just as well erase the southern border and if we do that then we will just drag our society, our stability and our country down along with the madness.

I don’t think we can single-handedly fix all the problems of the wold and perhaps we can do more but I think Xen has a point when he said that the citizens of a country have a duty to make change in their respective country.

Americans have been through a lot of similar things that is happening in South America. Civil war, fighting corruption, labor battles for fair wages creating unions, major wars with other powerful countries such as Britain, France, Germany and a Cold War with Russia. We have had our struggles and we continue to struggle diplomatically throughout the world and socially at home.

I think like I said to Phage in a previous post that what the United States needs to do with Mexico is to help guide their government into prosperity, make treaties and perhaps the Mexican government could even give the United States some authority in the say-so in major policy decisions and in that way allow for the United States to guide them. It’s that teach a man to fish or just feed him fish thing.

If the United States relaxes their immigration laws ten fold it still wouldn’t solve the problem of immigrants wanting to cross the border and it certainly would not solve the problems of their home country that is making them want to flee. This is just feeding a man a fish.

a reply to: Alien Abduct

I think like I said to Phage in a previous post that what the United States needs to do with Mexico is to help guide their government into prosperity

Yeah. Putting tariffs on their products will help.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Alien Abduct

I think like I said to Phage in a previous post that what the United States needs to do with Mexico is to help guide their government into prosperity

Yeah. Putting tariffs on their products will help.

Trump knows best, didn't you know that?

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Alien Abduct

I think like I said to Phage in a previous post that what the United States needs to do with Mexico is to help guide their government into prosperity

Yeah. Putting tariffs on their products will help.

I thought it was the Mexican government's mandated wages that helped Mexicans...

a reply to: Xcathdra

Apparently not.
But I was responding to a different thing.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Xcathdra

Apparently not.
But I was responding to a different thing.

Just thought I would help out by adding an element that didnt exist before

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Alien Abduct

I think like I said to Phage in a previous post that what the United States needs to do with Mexico is to help guide their government into prosperity

Yeah. Putting tariffs on their products will help.

I see, perhaps you have better ideas that will help straighten/awaken/let the Mexican government know that their current way of dealing with the situation isn’t the right path?

I’m open to suggestions and in your infinite wisdom I’m sure you have a very many. Perhaps you ever so slightly could enlighten us with your warm and golden insight?

a reply to: Alien Abduct

Nah.
If I knew what to do I'd run for office.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Alien Abduct

Nah.
If I knew what to do I'd run for office.

Right. The way I look at is if someone wants to argue about how this situation is crappy but yet doesn’t have any sort of insight or ideas of how to make it better is just wasting their breath when they point out that the situation sucks and that we as Americans are doing a crappy job of alleviating the situation.

Do you disagree with anything I posted in this thread?

a reply to: Alien Abduct

I shamed to admit that I haven't read everything you've said in this thread.

Do you think imposing tariffs will help Mexico's economy?

a reply to: Phage

I, as a fellow drunk, shamed to read your shamed post.

a reply to: RowanBean

I'm

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: RowanBean

I'm

Amazing. Even as a drunk Grammar Nazi you manage to find the errors.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Alien Abduct

I shamed to admit that I haven't read everything you've said in this thread.

Do you think imposing tariffs will help Mexico's economy?

My answer would be off topic

a reply to: Alien Abduct

Why start (stop?) now?

Weren't you expressing support for encouraging economic growth in Mexico as a way to reduce illegal emigration to the US?

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Alien Abduct

I shamed to admit that I haven't read everything you've said in this thread.

Do you think imposing tariffs will help Mexico's economy?

Okay I’ll answer. No.

So, do you have a follow up?