Immigration agents arrest 114 in landscaper sting

originally posted by: toysforadults
good, there's perfectly healthy and willing Americans who will do that job is the market value of that job is high enough

artificially decreasing the value of the landscaping market has taken it from a legitimate trade business to slavery with the use of illegal labor

There is no evidence this is real. We have low unemployment as it is. Which makes some of these culture wars issues so silly.

a reply to: luthier

only an clown would claim that there is no evidence that mexicans work for cheap

not tryin to dump on you but come on

originally posted by: howtonhawky

originally posted by: Ahabstar
Waiting for the raid on Tyson Chicken....

lol
that is funny
near me is a pilgrims pride processing plant and town full of mexican workers

like the whole town of 30,000 people the majority are mexican

What’s even funnier, is you’re stuck in a literal sh$thole town — if what you claim is true, there’s a zero percent chance/probability that you don’t get that late summer waft of poultry litter. Constantly! Lol. Joke is on you. It’s worse than hog sh$t.

Plus, it’s so toxic you can get a non-attainment permit to burn tires before you can burn poultry litter — ‘turd burners’ were all the rage in late 90’s until the arsenic started to rain down.

Must be tough smelling all those refried beans farts on top of that chicken sh$t, daily.

originally posted by: howtonhawky
a reply to: luthier

only an clown would claim that there is no evidence that mexicans work for cheap

not tryin to dump on you but come on

They do. There is no evidence Americans want or would do those jobs. Same with roofing. When you have 45 days of 100+ degrees not many people want the work. Especially when they can get a job somewhere else. Then you have the issue of booming cities with literally labor voids in those type of industries. You have 100 people moving to Austin a day for the last 20 years or so. They aren't moving to cut the lawn.

a reply to: xuenchen

imbe about as america as you can get but eave the illegals that actuall work there tails off alone dont we have enough illeagals that dont work to go after first

originally posted by: MetalThunder
a reply to: JoshuaCox

Point here.

Legal immigrants - WENT thru legal process to weed out criminals, RECEIVED health checks to live next door to you and serve you and your family food

Illegal Immigrant - AVOIDED legal process, for reasons unknown, NO health check for infectious diseases. Keep in mind they will still live next door to you and potentially work in food service.

Do you see the difference ?

So make it easier for them. It's expensive, and can take decades to become a legal citizen at this time. These are poor people trying to feed their families, they don't have the time or money for the legal process.

originally posted by: JoshuaCox
a reply to: Skywatcher2011

Lost taxes?!?!


The vast majority of illegals pay taxes, but never file a return. Now maybe landscaping the owner was paying them cash, but only if his whole buisness was off the books and he wasn’t paying taxes at all..

They typically pay cash off the books otherwise they would need to create fake accounts for employees. Also remember money saved by low wages in this and construction etc is not passed on to the consumer. It is all pure greed/profit generated.

originally posted by: howtonhawky
We had better lock up their children then disappear them into the system.

SOP

I'm sure their relatives are making sure they disappear as we speak. The irony is people that push this missing kids scenario is hurting immigrants. Right now their is a policy to return kids to relatives even if they are illegal. People keep on about missing kids the government will no longer allow illegals to take their kids because they wont stay in contact with the government.

Unintended consequences when people demand action on a subject they dont underatand.

originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: nwtrucker

Well considering the new Govorner wd the AG I doubt it.

The fact is Texas is still booming. There are labor voids..these things are real which is why season visa and labor shortage visa programs need to happen.

I went to work in 2002 down there because they were literally blanketing the country looking for skilled carpenters, mill wood workers, and cabinet makers. When I arrived it was the wild west..when I left it was the wild west.

That's why I figure Trump will eventually end up using the labor shortage, it's occurring all over, to create a door for those here for extended time without other crimes to work their way into a citizenship position. Just speculation on my part, though.

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: JoshuaCox
a reply to: Skywatcher2011

Lost taxes?!?!


The vast majority of illegals pay taxes, but never file a return. Now maybe landscaping the owner was paying them cash, but only if his whole buisness was off the books and he wasn’t paying taxes at all..

They typically pay cash off the books otherwise they would need to create fake accounts for employees. Also remember money saved by low wages in this and construction etc is not passed on to the consumer. It is all pure greed/profit generated.

This is not true. It is most defiantly passed to the consumer, I tried to operate legally with a crew of my own in Texas all on the books and could never offer close to the same prices to customers in remodels.

Just a fact. It pushes everyone to operate that way.

a reply to: luthier

There is no evidence Americans want or would do those jobs

incorrect

there is plenty of americans doing the jobs currently and that is much evidence

"there is no evidence americans want or would do these jobs for the same wages that mexicans would." fixed it for you

originally posted by: nwtrucker

originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: nwtrucker

Well considering the new Govorner wd the AG I doubt it.

The fact is Texas is still booming. There are labor voids..these things are real which is why season visa and labor shortage visa programs need to happen.

I went to work in 2002 down there because they were literally blanketing the country looking for skilled carpenters, mill wood workers, and cabinet makers. When I arrived it was the wild west..when I left it was the wild west.

That's why I figure Trump will eventually end up using the labor shortage, it's occurring all over, to create a door for those here for extended time without other crimes to work their way into a citizenship position. Just speculation on my part, though.

I hope you are right. I don't care who the person is that does it but it needs to happen.

The visa would also start a record for how people act and work..

I like Mexicans. They love family, the food is good, and they work harder than the drunk white and black people I had to work with for the most part. Of coarse part of that is the way people view that type of work now but that is another conversation.

originally posted by: howtonhawky
a reply to: luthier

There is no evidence Americans want or would do those jobs

incorrect

there is plenty of americans doing the jobs currently and that is much evidence

"there is no evidence americans want or would do these jobs for the same wages that mexicans would." fixed it for you

Not really we are talking about low pay jobs. The owners make money not the landscapers. In reality you are talking about probably many hundred thousand jobs in Texas alone that would need filling. Again in 100 degree weather...

Let me guess you have never spent anytime in the SW..

a reply to: luthier

I like Mexicans. They love family, the food is good, and they work harder than the drunk white and black people I had to work with for the most part. Of coarse part of that is the way people view that type of work now but that is another conversation.

give them 10 or twenty years for the feminism and political correctness to eat a whole in the fabric of their lives and you will not like them as much cause they will be much like us then

just sayin that most immigrant communities over the decades have had those traits we admire but then progressiveness takes their soul.

no one will respect a mrs. america pageant without bathing suits and beauty

a reply to: LordAhriman

If they followed the legal process they wouldn't be here in the first place. And if they followed the rules doesn't cost much at all. Only when you try to change the rules does it get expensive. For example with my wife I was attempting to get rules waived for her that gets expensive. Had we followed the rules and she returned to her country and waited we would have hardly spent anything. For me it was worth paying for the atty to have her here with me.

Funniest part about the whole process was she is British. However she's also black so during the process she would get asked where she had citizenship and she would say the UK. Then they would ask where she was born and she would have to say again the UK. We laugh because people hear her accent and dont realize black people actually live in the UK. Happens all the time to her the accent just throws people off.

originally posted by: luthier

originally posted by: howtonhawky
a reply to: luthier

There is no evidence Americans want or would do those jobs

incorrect

there is plenty of americans doing the jobs currently and that is much evidence

"there is no evidence americans want or would do these jobs for the same wages that mexicans would." fixed it for you

Not really we are talking about low pay jobs. The owners make money not the landscapers. In reality you are talking about probably many hundred thousand jobs in Texas alone that would need filling. Again in 100 degree weather...

Let me guess you have never spent anytime in the SW..

PUHHHLLEEEAASSSSEEEE

anyone is willing to work if the money is right period

a reply to: dragonridr

we don't need to change the laws so we can fit more people into the country, it's simple follow the laws or face prosecution... it's what I have to do everyday

originally posted by: toysforadults

originally posted by: luthier

originally posted by: howtonhawky
a reply to: luthier

There is no evidence Americans want or would do those jobs

incorrect

there is plenty of americans doing the jobs currently and that is much evidence

"there is no evidence americans want or would do these jobs for the same wages that mexicans would." fixed it for you

Not really we are talking about low pay jobs. The owners make money not the landscapers. In reality you are talking about probably many hundred thousand jobs in Texas alone that would need filling. Again in 100 degree weather...

Let me guess you have never spent anytime in the SW..

PUHHHLLEEEAASSSSEEEE

anyone is willing to work if the money is right period

In Texas, an estimated 400,000 construction workers reside illegally, according to one study. If they were forced to leave the country, contractors say, state construction companies would face a difficult fallout, including higher labor costs, construction delays, and some projects canceled altogether.

"Texas lives on immigrant labor," said Jeff Nielsen, executive vice president of the Houston Contractors Association. "Our economy is the way it is partly because cost of living is cheap and the reason for that is labor is cheap."

www.houstonchronicle.com...


A little education for some of you that don't live in the SW. Or in reality.

I would live to get everyone 35 an hour to be a carpenter. That's what union states are like. Housing is also very expensive.

a reply to: xuenchen

No criminal charges have been filed against Corso's,

This is the part I have a real problem with.

The employers hiring illegals need to face charges as well.

The article say's that only some of them had fake ids, that means some of them were hired knowing that they were illegals.

The wall would NEVER stop illegal immigration. But stopping american companies from hiring them will. They mostly come here for the jobs.

But I doubt trump would ever do that for fear that he himself might have some illegals working in his companies.

Having gone through the process of imigrating here and getting naturalized I find it offensive for people to make the excuse they're poor. Before coming here I slept on the bamboo floor of a nippa hut. I did it legally never once trying to skirt the law.
I worked my ass off to get here and so can every one of those illegals. There billions o unfortunate poor people that would love the opportunity why give it to someone willingly and knowingly breaking the law and stealing that opportunity from others.