China's Heel

Trump wanted to bring China to heel. I believe that.

But then the Neocons / bankster / etc they got over on him whatever it is they've got on him.

He as a result made the Neocon fantasy of making North Kokea "our" bitch his effective platform since inauguration.

And as a result he handed China total leverage over US.

All for a little punk backwater nation to finally come to the heels of the NWO banksters that run damn near everything else (well them, and Iran, basically all that's left that isnt subservient).

UNTIL we slay this Neocon / bankster stranglehold over this nation, essentially none of this other stuff (NONE of the snip they talk about on TV) is hardly ever going to matter.

We United Statesian's are the worlds Evil Empire. And until we can all admit that and work to evolve above it we're truly lost as the most brazen self-deluded hypocrites in human history.

a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

And as a result he handed China total leverage over US.

Can you explain this bit further, and maybe a link or two to back that up as well. Thanks.

I’ve been on the fence a while about your last paragraph... how do we really know either way... the media is so sketch, and they would say the sky is purple if it fit their agenda.

a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

We United Statesian's are the worlds Evil Empire. And until we can all admit that and work to evolve above it we're truly lost as the most brazen self-deluded hypocrites in human history.

There was a time when the world viewed America as a leading light and in a way we all bought into the American dream. The internet put paid to all that and exposed the corruption and hypocrisy that is the true underpinning of the regime.
Of course my own government (and many others) are just as corrupt but the US is indeed an empire and the hypocrisy is bought into with the words like 'exceptional' and the like.

S+F

a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

Do you have anything that backs up your claim?

Otherwise this is just a rant and maybe should be moved into that forum.

originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
We United Statesian's are the worlds Evil Empire.

To be honest, you need to get up and do some travelling. See the world and see that the US ain't that bad. I dare you: Open your mind and do some travelling.

a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

Yes please do clarify your comment. He hasn't given China any leverage in the trade deal.

He eased off ZTE to give Xi something to put the leverage back in his favor in the negotiation.

As for NK, that's a whole other thing and doesn't specifically relate to the trade imbalance.

originally posted by: paraphi

originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
We United Statesian's are the worlds Evil Empire.

To be honest, you need to get up and do some travelling. See the world and see that the US ain't that bad. I dare you: Open your mind and do some travelling.

It is just that many countries are not as polished or able to hide under some form of national security to do their dirty deeds.. Many are so transparent in their corruption and dirty deeds that everyone knows and expects the countries form of B.S. call it business as usual..corrupt cops, corrupt bribe taking government officials, corrupt at every level yet the countries seem to keep on keeping on.

Once upon a time people believed that corrupt stuff did not happen in the USA and if it did justice would prevail.. Now not so much IMO

a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

There's the real view of the left. Case closed. Distorted views with a small taste of truth to give that distorted view plausibility.

Nothing I could post would give a clearer divide between the two sides.

originally posted by: nwtrucker
a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

There's the real view of the left. Case closed. Distorted views with a small taste of truth to give that distorted view plausibility.

Nothing I could post would give a clearer divide between the two sides.

Here's a perfect example of our American future under Trump. MAGA

www.bloomberg.com...

originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: nwtrucker
a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

There's the real view of the left. Case closed. Distorted views with a small taste of truth to give that distorted view plausibility.

Nothing I could post would give a clearer divide between the two sides.

Here's a perfect example of our American future under Trump. MAGA

www.bloomberg.com...

Screw Bloomberg.

originally posted by: nwtrucker

originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: nwtrucker
a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

There's the real view of the left. Case closed. Distorted views with a small taste of truth to give that distorted view plausibility.

Nothing I could post would give a clearer divide between the two sides.

Here's a perfect example of our American future under Trump. MAGA

www.bloomberg.com...

Screw Bloomberg.

When you to resort to attacking the source rather than the topic, you just admitted defeat in the debate.

old number 5....

www.abovetopsecret.com...

originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: nwtrucker

originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: nwtrucker
a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

There's the real view of the left. Case closed. Distorted views with a small taste of truth to give that distorted view plausibility.

Nothing I could post would give a clearer divide between the two sides.

Here's a perfect example of our American future under Trump. MAGA

www.bloomberg.com...

Screw Bloomberg.

When you to resort to attacking the source rather than the topic, you just admitted defeat in the debate.

old number 5....

www.abovetopsecret.com...

In your mind only. Bloomberg's political position is clear. 'Links' are not debate worthy points when just as subjective as one's own views. In fact; using subjective links is admitting defeat is a 'debate'.

I can see it now, two 'debaters' and one holds up a laptop and says 'see! see!...LOL. Not gonna fly.

If your positioning yourself with the OP and the the US is evil, fine. Say so. At least the OP is honest about it.

a reply to: GraffikPleasure

No need to mince words, Trump got absolutely routed by China. Even his allies admit it.

The single, most important reason why Trump's trade showdowns with China will keep ending in tears

So why did China just cut auto tariffs on foreign vehicles from 25% to 4.5%?

Don't think it was coz they felt like giving foreign companies level competition in China.