Pyramid of Giza and Speed of Light

a reply to: Harte

You brought up an excellent point concerning the problem of decrypting evidence of Egyptian thought.
Self delusion.

Case in point, Aleister Crowley married Rose Kelly and they spent a night in the Kings chamber in 1904 on their honeymoon. Evidence of his self delusions interpreting the Egyptian honeymoon experience are legendary.

Botticelli was clearly influenced by the Great Pyramid in the 15th century as well, perhaps as a reflection of prior art by Dante.

I believe there may be clues to the unsolved K4 of the CIA Kryptos puzzle associated with Botticelli and the Pythagorean system.

Perhaps we could explore them on ATS, but we cannot claim a patent for red line delusion.
Crowley has been identified as an influence for the London band "The rolling Stones" back in 1962 and there are undoubtedly other potentially non bizarre delusional references in the music industry.

originally posted by: bloodymarvelous

originally posted by: Harte


The Sumerians, Akkadians, and Babylonians developed writing. Writing that we can read.
There's no reason to speculate on what they thought. They have told us what they thought.

We have a very very very very very very very very very very very very .........

..............tiny part of their body of writing in our possession.

But we have a lot of their material from observatories, including their tables of stars and constellations and so forth. Neither they nor the Egyptians thought that the world was round, and both cultures thought they were each at the center of the world. They believed their lands were surrounded by the ocean of chaos.

Egyptian versions of the star tables are so woefully inaccurate (as to position of stars) that we have trouble figuring out which ones were meant. This is not true of the Babylonian ones (they were decent astronomers.)

When Gillogly weighed in on Kryptos K4 one of the suggestions was to eliminate "null" characters.

“ignore every letter after an N when decrypting”

That may seem "tiny" by our standards but is likely just a mundane observation for analysts like Gillogly. Not sure there is any solution for the "ocean of chaos" in the beer stein.

originally posted by: Byrd

originally posted by: bloodymarvelous

originally posted by: Harte


The Sumerians, Akkadians, and Babylonians developed writing. Writing that we can read.
There's no reason to speculate on what they thought. They have told us what they thought.

We have a very very very very very very very very very very very very .........

..............tiny part of their body of writing in our possession.

But we have a lot of their material from observatories, including their tables of stars and constellations and so forth. Neither they nor the Egyptians thought that the world was round, and both cultures thought they were each at the center of the world. They believed their lands were surrounded by the ocean of chaos.

Egyptian versions of the star tables are so woefully inaccurate (as to position of stars) that we have trouble figuring out which ones were meant. This is not true of the Babylonian ones (they were decent astronomers.)

You could probably find writings in Greece that are contemporary with Pythagoras' writings, which depict the world as flat also. There was no "google" back then. One person could know something, and another person could be totally ignorant of it.

It's interesting that Sumerians are credited with knowing that Venus was both the morning and evening star (rather than being two stars). Yet in Greece, Pythagoras is the one credited with that.

It seems like a lot of Sumerian discoveries came to Greece via Pythagoras. Makes you wonder if maybe he had access to some of their writings? He never claimed to be the inventor of the things he taught.

originally posted by: Byrd

originally posted by: bloodymarvelous

originally posted by: Harte


The Sumerians, Akkadians, and Babylonians developed writing. Writing that we can read.
There's no reason to speculate on what they thought. They have told us what they thought.

We have a very very very very very very very very very very very very .........

..............tiny part of their body of writing in our possession.

But we have a lot of their material from observatories, including their tables of stars and constellations and so forth. Neither they nor the Egyptians thought that the world was round, and both cultures thought they were each at the center of the world. They believed their lands were surrounded by the ocean of chaos.

Egyptian versions of the star tables are so woefully inaccurate (as to position of stars) that we have trouble figuring out which ones were meant. This is not true of the Babylonian ones (they were decent astronomers.)

If they didn't know the Earth was round, that pretty much rules out ANY geo-significant traits. Not only would they have no idea where it was relative to the equator, but also they probably wouldn't have accurate enough maps to choose the center of the Eurasian/africa land mass.

Pretty much all alt-archaeological claims about that stuff would be dead in the water.

But the advantage of going this direction is that, if one of the global positioning claims is proven, that would also prove an earlier build date.