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These media sources are slightly to moderately conservative in bias. They often publish factual information that utilizes loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes) to favor conservative causes. These sources are generally trustworthy for information, but may require further investigation.
originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: donnydeevil
It's a shame you never cared enough to read the underlying data of polls. You're telling everyone more about yourself than you probably want to. Or maybe you don't care. Whatever makes you happy.
originally posted by: Scrubdog
originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: donnydeevil
It's a shame you never cared enough to read the underlying data of polls. You're telling everyone more about yourself than you probably want to. Or maybe you don't care. Whatever makes you happy.
Why don't YOU tell us about the underlying data of the reports, because I find it such a shame that you would presume that it supports you while insulting another person. Are you denying Rassmussen has a conservative bent? Is it THE accurate one and all the rest are "fake"?
I find it best to cast a wide net, get all of them, average them together, to get at least a more solid sense, and 538 has a consolidation of ALL the polls, which as of today demonstrates that 53% Disapprove of Trump, and 40% approval. projects.fivethirtyeight.com...
Of course, that can be written off as "biased" and the ONLY true poll is Rassmussen, and that's fine- whatever.
I am not the least bit surprised that Trump is able to retain his 40% approval ratings (or whatever they are) even with "90% of the media against him (according to the OP, which isn't true, but for arguments sake). That's bc Trump's core supporters, somewhere between 35-39% of the electorate won't be moved no matter what, period. As Trump famously said; He could go on 5th Ave and shoot someone and he'd still be supported. This is just that. All the revelations, all the true stuff coming out, it is ALL meaningless to the Trump supporters.
-The FBI has serious evidence against him regarding Russia? Well, trash the FBI, not Trump.
-Bannon, leader of the Alt-Right figures out Trump's a moron doing his own thing and likely owned by Russia, bash Bannon suddenly.
- CELEBRATE that Mueller states Trump is a subject of a federal investigation (a very serious thing) for obstruction while in office
- Porn stars and other women come out with obvious evidence of obvious pay-offs, a very disturbing trend, paying off people with bad information on you. No problem, blame the porn star
Nothing touches him with the true believers. He said you are allowed to have no time for PC, he said he'd "drain the swamp" and filled it with crooked billionaires, the smart ones called him a fking moron. No problem, it's all other people's issue.
So, why would we expect anything different? If evidence came out tomorrow that the FBI had direct evidence that Trump colluded with Russia, most of the Alt-Right would set about trashing the FBI. Of course his "poll numbers" are staying the same! As noted on Saturday Night Live - "Nothing matters anymore, literally nothing matters."
He can't be that popular. Still won't throw out a first pitch, still won't go to London, still won't go to the regular "president things" like the Kennedy Center honors or the White House Correspondent's Dinner. He won't go anywhere where the crowd hasn't been cleared as 100% pure Trump supporter, prefers his "campaign rallies." Hasn't had a real news conference in over a year, new record.
Nope, that that popular, either that or a terrified precious snowflake. Or both.
originally posted by: Scrubdog
originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: donnydeevil
It's a shame you never cared enough to read the underlying data of polls. You're telling everyone more about yourself than you probably want to. Or maybe you don't care. Whatever makes you happy.
Why don't YOU tell us about the underlying data of the reports, because I find it such a shame that you would presume that it supports you while insulting another person. Are you denying Rassmussen has a conservative bent? Is it THE accurate one and all the rest are "fake"?
I find it best to cast a wide net, get all of them, average them together, to get at least a more solid sense, and 538 has a consolidation of ALL the polls, which as of today demonstrates that 53% Disapprove of Trump, and 40% approval. projects.fivethirtyeight.com...
Of course, that can be written off as "biased" and the ONLY true poll is Rassmussen, and that's fine- whatever.
I am not the least bit surprised that Trump is able to retain his 40% approval ratings (or whatever they are) even with "90% of the media against him (according to the OP, which isn't true, but for arguments sake). That's bc Trump's core supporters, somewhere between 35-39% of the electorate won't be moved no matter what, period. As Trump famously said; He could go on 5th Ave and shoot someone and he'd still be supported. This is just that. All the revelations, all the true stuff coming out, it is ALL meaningless to the Trump supporters.
-The FBI has serious evidence against him regarding Russia? Well, trash the FBI, not Trump.
-Bannon, leader of the Alt-Right figures out Trump's a moron doing his own thing and likely owned by Russia, bash Bannon suddenly.
- CELEBRATE that Mueller states Trump is a subject of a federal investigation (a very serious thing) for obstruction while in office
- Porn stars and other women come out with obvious evidence of obvious pay-offs, a very disturbing trend, paying off people with bad information on you. No problem, blame the porn star
Nothing touches him with the true believers. He said you are allowed to have no time for PC, he said he'd "drain the swamp" and filled it with crooked billionaires, the smart ones called him a fking moron. No problem, it's all other people's issue.
So, why would we expect anything different? If evidence came out tomorrow that the FBI had direct evidence that Trump colluded with Russia, most of the Alt-Right would set about trashing the FBI. Of course his "poll numbers" are staying the same! As noted on Saturday Night Live - "Nothing matters anymore, literally nothing matters."
He can't be that popular. Still won't throw out a first pitch, still won't go to London, still won't go to the regular "president things" like the Kennedy Center honors or the White House Correspondent's Dinner. He won't go anywhere where the crowd hasn't been cleared as 100% pure Trump supporter, prefers his "campaign rallies." Hasn't had a real news conference in over a year,s new record.
Nope, that that popular, either that or a terrified precious snowflake. Or both.
originally posted by: fencesitter85
originally posted by: Scrubdog
originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: donnydeevil
It's a shame you never cared enough to read the underlying data of polls. You're telling everyone more about yourself than you probably want to. Or maybe you don't care. Whatever makes you happy.
Why don't YOU tell us about the underlying data of the reports, because I find it such a shame that you would presume that it supports you while insulting another person. Are you denying Rassmussen has a conservative bent? Is it THE accurate one and all the rest are "fake"?
I find it best to cast a wide net, get all of them, average them together, to get at least a more solid sense, and 538 has a consolidation of ALL the polls, which as of today demonstrates that 53% Disapprove of Trump, and 40% approval. projects.fivethirtyeight.com...
Of course, that can be written off as "biased" and the ONLY true poll is Rassmussen, and that's fine- whatever.
I am not the least bit surprised that Trump is able to retain his 40% approval ratings (or whatever they are) even with "90% of the media against him (according to the OP, which isn't true, but for arguments sake). That's bc Trump's core supporters, somewhere between 35-39% of the electorate won't be moved no matter what, period. As Trump famously said; He could go on 5th Ave and shoot someone and he'd still be supported. This is just that. All the revelations, all the true stuff coming out, it is ALL meaningless to the Trump supporters.
-The FBI has serious evidence against him regarding Russia? Well, trash the FBI, not Trump.
-Bannon, leader of the Alt-Right figures out Trump's a moron doing his own thing and likely owned by Russia, bash Bannon suddenly.
- CELEBRATE that Mueller states Trump is a subject of a federal investigation (a very serious thing) for obstruction while in office
- Porn stars and other women come out with obvious evidence of obvious pay-offs, a very disturbing trend, paying off people with bad information on you. No problem, blame the porn star
Nothing touches him with the true believers. He said you are allowed to have no time for PC, he said he'd "drain the swamp" and filled it with crooked billionaires, the smart ones called him a fking moron. No problem, it's all other people's issue.
So, why would we expect anything different? If evidence came out tomorrow that the FBI had direct evidence that Trump colluded with Russia, most of the Alt-Right would set about trashing the FBI. Of course his "poll numbers" are staying the same! As noted on Saturday Night Live - "Nothing matters anymore, literally nothing matters."
He can't be that popular. Still won't throw out a first pitch, still won't go to London, still won't go to the regular "president things" like the Kennedy Center honors or the White House Correspondent's Dinner. He won't go anywhere where the crowd hasn't been cleared as 100% pure Trump supporter, prefers his "campaign rallies." Hasn't had a real news conference in over a year, new record.
Nope, that that popular, either that or a terrified precious snowflake. Or both.
Best post on here in a while.
This thread represents the kind of propaganda which keeps the cult embedded, much like scientology.
You know at the end of the wizard of oz, with the man behind the curtain? Same thing.
I also find it hilarious that his followers will commonly refer to anyone they disagree with as "crying snowflakes", yet donnie is literally the whiniest, most hypersensitive little snowflake I've ever seen. Just constantly crying and whining on Twitter, getting defensive and attacking anyone and everyone, calling them childish names etc.
And then the cult call that "strength" and "alpha"? Lol. It's literally the opposite of strength. And if having tantrums every time the media expresses their right to free speech makes him "alpha" then it simply serves to emphasise how insecure people who call themselves "alpha" are.
originally posted by: 1337Kph
originally posted by: introvert
Yet you still tried to use an argument that the other member did not make or imply.
Using it as an argument would be me saying "You're probably one of those guys that..." or anything in that direction.
Getting pretty pointless there.
originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
originally posted by: BotheLumberJack
originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
a reply to: BotheLumberJack
Raw Data provided by whom?
Well if you bothered to check out the link I have provided you would see....
YouGov, Gallop, IPSOS, Rassmussen Reports and whole load of others....
Its amazing how you chose to cherry pick your facts though.
If you look through a few pages worth of polling data aggregated by FiveThirtyEight you struggle to find any showing a positive number for Trump. Yet you somehow manage to cherry pick the one poll that gives him a merger 51% approval rating. Hell even the last FoxNews poll only put him at 45%!
Sorry but it is a fact. When you look at the polling numbers Trump is the least popular president of modern times.
I don't trust everything I read like you do, my bad.
ohhh but you will believe that one poll that shows Trump has positive polling numbers.
And ignore all those other sources that say otherwise.
Sorry, I am able to critically analyse sources, my bad.
When you actually have a decent counter argument to my points about his god awful polling numbers feel free to try again....
originally posted by: projectvxn
My approval rating for Trump is 43%
I like some of what he's doing.
But some of the things he's said and done are starting to seriously piss me off.
originally posted by: UKTruth
Here is the danger of polls...
Today the Rasmussen approval rating is 47% and 2pts below Obama at the same point in their presidency. What now? Is the poll still nonsense and Obama was not really more popular at this stage?
originally posted by: fleabit
Take into account all polls, and nope.. still terrible. But I guess you take a win wherever you can dredge it up. Trump's followers are becoming like him, only accepting that which agrees with him, and dismissing everything else as "fake, wrong, biased, extreme-left, etc.."
originally posted by: donnydeevil
Rasmussen Reports
These media sources are slightly to moderately conservative in bias. They often publish factual information that utilizes loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes) to favor conservative causes. These sources are generally trustworthy for information, but may require further investigation.
With that posted. It is a conservative biased polling site, yet they could only find "51% of Likely U.S. Voters approve of President Trump"...LMAO