If it wasn't for JFK, 9/11, Project MKULTRA, Mockingbird, Monarch etc: I'd be pro gun control

Yep, I understand why people want gun control. People want an end to the violence, especially as it pertains to children or other innocent folks.

And if it wasn't for all of the messed up stuff our government has tried to cover up and get away with against its own people, I'd probably support stricter gun control measures.

But since our own government has never taken responsibility, let alone made reparations, for what it and its military media intelligence industrial complex has done around the world and to its own citizens, I can't blame anyone for not trusting the current media spin or their intentions for it.

That being said, I don't own a gun and probably never will. Hopefully a well armed militia will protect me if the government ever goes after its own citizens.

You had to live during the time of JFK. There were scores of people that did not like him at all. He was no hero, remember 'Bay of Pigs'....?

a reply to: Plotus

I would imagine, that this post is talking about who killed JFK, not JFK as a politician.

If it was LBJ and a coup...if the governement is willing to kill its leader, it’s willing to kill you

originally posted by: Plotus
You had to live during the time of JFK. There were scores of people that did not like him at all. He was no hero, remember 'Bay of Pigs'....?

I know why people didn't like him.

But killing him was a huge crime and directly affected policies he was elected to enact.

Ain't no money in peace

originally posted by: SocratesJohnson
a reply to: Plotus

I would imagine, that this post is talking about who killed JFK, not JFK as a politician.

If it was LBJ and a coup...if the governement is willing to kill its leader, it’s willing to kill you

Yes, this... even if they didn't kill him (which I don't believe) they definitely covered up who did.

JFK would be called a 'right winger' by today's standards.

That's how far bat snip crazy the pro gun control party has gotten.

originally posted by: Plotus
You had to live during the time of JFK. There were scores of people that did not like him at all. He was no hero, remember 'Bay of Pigs'....?

From that statement I'm wondering about what kind of research you've done into JFK?

For example, what is your understanding of JFK in relation to the Bay of Pigs?

JFK certainly wasn't perfect, but my research leads me to the conclusion that he was growing as a person as he grappled with some of the systemic problems that exacerbated greatly after the National Security Act and the CIA's tendency to go rogue.

originally posted by: neo96
JFK would be called a 'right winger' by today's standards.

That's how far bat snip crazy the pro gun control party has gotten.

The war machine hasn't exactly made either side any saner.

The right think Obama was a Kenyan socialist muslim closeted homosexual who hates america and was coming for their guns when in fact he dropped 6X more bombs on terrorists than the republican war hawk before him, yet somehow Trump is the sane choice for America.

a reply to: The GUT

The CIA directly ignored orders to stand down and clearly despised Kennedy.

The feeling was mutual.

Refusing to listen to your commanding officer is only acceptable if they are asking you to ignore the law or constitution imo, and in this case it was clearly the CIA who was breaking laws.

And don't get me started with LBJ, that mother f***ing turncoat should have been in prison until his last breath.

originally posted by: Plotus
You had to live during the time of JFK. There were scores of people that did not like him at all. He was no hero, remember 'Bay of Pigs'....?

I did, and I did, and there were a hell of a lot more people who liked him than otherwise.

a reply to: Cohen the Barbarian

Yep, my parents and grandparents were crushed as were the friends and neighbors where I grew up.

Not that that means everyone loved him, but many were sick of the war mongering and McCarthy era fear tactics.

I wonder if Mary Pinchot Meyers provided Kennedy with some acid and that didn't play a part in his demise.

a reply to: Harpua

Yeah, she likely DID dose him as it was all the rage at the time... and it says something if the people in power were so afraid of something providing temporary perspective change.

As for the topic, me too ... and really, with the chain of evidence leading to gov't researched mind control, the guns will likely not make any difference should it come down to the proverbial 3 am jack boots at the door scenario, but it does make things a bit more difficult.

One world gov't is a logical end to hegemonic games, but the nature of that OWG matters very very much. Fascists suck and are always the ones vying for power.

originally posted by: Harpua
Yep, I understand why people want gun control. People want an end to the violence, especially as it pertains to children or other innocent folks.

And if it wasn't for all of the messed up stuff our government has tried to cover up and get away with against its own people, I'd probably support stricter gun control measures.

But since our own government has never taken responsibility, let alone made reparations, for what it and its military media intelligence industrial complex has done around the world and to its own citizens, I can't blame anyone for not trusting the current media spin or their intentions for it.

That being said, I don't own a gun and probably never will. Hopefully a well armed militia will protect me if the government ever goes after its own citizens.

If you want to take the time to read some very sick stuff done by our loving government try this:
www.activistpost.com...
You might want to rethink the owning a gun thing if you have time to get some training... Just my opinion.. You will 99% for sure never need a gun... But if you do it is there.

Breggin: “[Before World War 2, in America], organized psychiatry had been sterilizing tens of thousands of Americans. For a time in California, you couldn’t be discharged from a state hospital unless you were sterilized. In Virginia the retarded were targeted. American advocates of sterilization went to Berlin to help the Nazis plan their sterilization program. These Americans reassured the Germans that they would meet no opposition from America in sterilizing their mentally and physically ‘unfit’ citizens.”

“While the murder of mental patients was going full swing in Germany, knowledgeable American psychiatrists and neurologists didn’t want to be left out. In 1942, the American Psychiatric Association held a debate about whether to sterilize or to murder low IQ ‘retarded’ children when they reached the age of five. Those were the only two alternatives in the debate: sterilization or death.”

A decent article if you have the time... This stuff is so buried under government secrecy that it will never come to light unless there is a major upheaval IMO.

The psychiatrists who later went to work for the CIA, in the MKULTRA program, were devoid of conscience. Any experiment was a good experiment. Human beings were “useful subjects.”

There are those in lab coats or very expensive suits who would squash you like a bug and think "So What". They always claim a higher cause or they are just doing government funded research for the betterment of society..

originally posted by: Harpua

originally posted by: neo96
JFK would be called a 'right winger' by today's standards.

That's how far bat snip crazy the pro gun control party has gotten.

The war machine hasn't exactly made either side any saner.

The right think Obama was a Kenyan socialist muslim closeted homosexual who hates america and was coming for their guns when in fact he dropped 6X more bombs on terrorists than the republican war hawk before him, yet somehow Trump is the sane choice for America.

Obamas drone strikes and assassinations created more terrorists than they neutralized,but the calculation has been made that it does not matter.
The newly minted enemies can be used to gin up more fear, more restrictions on our freedoms.
Fear of outside threats has led us to ignore the more real dangers from within.