Unarmed man killed by Sacramento police shot 8 times

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
a reply to: Shamrock6

Why is the practice requirements so inadequate?

Considering the firearm is literally the most important line of defense for an officer why is there so little in the way of training for using these weapons ?

it is just like how they do not teach deescalation tactics either.

we gots empty body bags to fill

originally posted by: Lumenari

originally posted by: Bhadhidar

originally posted by: butcherguy
a reply to: Bhadhidar

And god help us if we expect our teachers to do better in the defense of our school kids while ACTUALLY being fired upon by a shooter with a semi-automatic!

The unarmed man was shot by two shooters with 'semiautomatics'.
They probably had a dozen more rounds (between them) to fire before they would have needed to reload.
Just saying.

Two trained police officers, with semiautomatics, which they are required to practice with regularly, fired a total of 20 rounds a an unarmed man, standing (per the autopsy report), not moving or returning their fire, and less than fifty feet away.

And they only hit him 8 times out of the 20 rounds fired.

That’s an accuracy of less than 50%.

Yet many on these boards somehow believe that teachers should be allowed to carry weapons into the classroom to protect their students.

Can we honestly expect armed teachers, who are actually under fire from a school shooter, to have better shooting skills than trained officers firing on an unarmed man, alone, in his grandma’s backyard?

And how many more students would be killed or injured by their teacher’s “stray shots” (assuming that a teacher is as good an aim as a trained police officer)?

I just have to ask... how many of these teachers have had to pursue the school shooter over multiple back yard fences in their classroom in the dark with a helicopter flying around in the room?

I have to give you a hats off to the worst comparison of events in ... this century?

If you actually want some real information, let's go to the 12 states where the teachers and faculty members are already allowed to concealed carry and ask the teachers how hard the situation was for them.

Oh wait... you can't because a school shooting hasn't occurred in any of those states.

You can call it a coincidence, if it makes you sleep better at night.

lol

no body had to pursue the perp except in a coptor

they had no real reason other than adrinaline to go into this grandmothers yard

they could have taken a few minutes to let things settle then just telephone grandma and let her know
you bet you ass that grandma could have gotten to the bottom of this mess
guess what jumping fences and breaking glass is not a killing offence

why did they turn off their mics? these cops are so shady no wonder people are calling them murderers. they are on the job, they are given the power of life and death over people, they have no right to privacy.

there should be a law against turning off cameras and stuff.

a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

Money.

Ammo costs money. Sending officers to the range costs money. Maintaining a range or renting a range costs money. Same with lifesaving skills, hand to hand skills, or any other skill set.

a reply to: howtonhawky

The proof is in the video you refuse to watch.

And seriously, grow up.

a reply to: XAnarchistX

Because they knew all that at the time, right?

No.

a reply to: Shamrock6

Thats crap then, so many problems would be solved by allocating money to department's for consistent training in using firearms competently. My opinion is whoever is in charge of allocating funds to the police department needs to be fired and replaced with someone who can manage the funding a whole lot better.

a reply to: Shamrock6

They knew he had a Gun? They knew he was "Running at them"?

I mean, he got shot in the back, no matter how you try you can't twist around that evidence...

They obviously knew after they murdered him to turn off their Microphones, they knew/know they were/are murderers

a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

It's set by the municipality. Where I live, the city is something like 180 officers under-staffed. PD asked for enough money to send 125 guys through the academy, and got money to send 60 through the academy. PD asked for enough money to hire about 80 support staff and got money to hire 20.

And that's after a hiring freeze that lasted nearly a decade.

a reply to: XAnarchistX

They knew he had a Gun?

No, but they thought he did.

They knew he was "Running at them"?

They knew he was running towards them.

I mean, he got shot in the back, no matter how you try you can't twist around that evidence...

At no point have I said he wasn't shot in the back.

They obviously knew after they murdered him to turn off their Microphones, they knew/know they were/are murderers

'Kay.

it was a white cell phone.

proves they did not look but only shot.

vox

Video shows Sacramento County police hitting a Stephon Clark protester with a car

During protests over the Sacramento, California, police shooting of Stephon Clark on Saturday night, a Sacramento County sheriff’s car struck a protester in what critics are calling a “hit and run.”

seems that they are on a ROLL.

originally posted by: Shamrock6
a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

It's set by the municipality. Where I live, the city is something like 180 officers under-staffed. PD asked for enough money to send 125 guys through the academy, and got money to send 60 through the academy. PD asked for enough money to hire about 80 support staff and got money to hire 20.

And that's after a hiring freeze that lasted nearly a decade.

understaffed yet some how life goes on

they should get some of that new omnibus bill so they can upgrade their guns and armor

thats what cops are for to fight the public

if that were not true thenthey would not have traded in their common sense for more weapons.

originally posted by: XAnarchistX
a reply to: Shamrock6

They knew he had a Gun? They knew he was "Running at them"?

I mean, he got shot in the back, no matter how you try you can't twist around that evidence...

They obviously knew after they murdered him to turn off their Microphones, they knew/know they were/are murderers

yet if you stand up against the lies being spread then you are just star gathering on ats

originally posted by: snarfbot
why did they turn off their mics? these cops are so shady no wonder people are calling them murderers. they are on the job, they are given the power of life and death over people, they have no right to privacy.

there should be a law against turning off cameras and stuff.

there are laws against it

yet they will be defended

besides they have to get the story straight

originally posted by: Shamrock6
a reply to: howtonhawky

The proof is in the video you refuse to watch.

And seriously, grow up.

i would rather be young than to be a paid joke

why should i watch your guys murder porn?

a reply to: howtonhawky

Then don't demand proof when the proof has been posted and you refuse to look at it.

a reply to: Shamrock6

you give only biased opinions

what proof are you claiming

why would you claim that some film that is too dark to make determinations to be proof?

that is the claim that it was very low light and that is why they could not see the WHITE cell phone

i am bout truth not your biased speculation

there is still no 100% proof that stephon was the one jumping fences





GIMME TRUTH by your word i demand it

I really hate it for those cops. it sucks that they let their emotions get the best of a situation.

where is the crowbar bro????????

oh perhaps the one breaking windows ran away with it??????????

Sham are you now saying that this shooting was justified?