For the Men.

a reply to: Talorc

Everything about it is how.

originally posted by: Talorc
a reply to: zosimov
Otherwise Supreme Gentlemen™ would be getting laid and not shooting up schools out of frustration.

Everything about this sentence screams: "If men don't get laid they will not be gentlemen and they will end up shooting schools out of frustration." and "If men get laid they will be gentlemen and not shoot up schools."

And you don't see the wrong in that?

AND NOT ONLY THAT, you also have the gall to accuse the OP of giving faulty advice/being deceptive.

ARE YOU OK, SIR?????

I only partially agree with one thing you wrote, that being playful and not giving a flying f-ck what anybody thinks makes a person really quite attractive because that person will exude a fun type of confidence, and confidence is always attractive. What you might not agree with, but what I truly believe, is that chivalry is a sign of confidence and security, not insecurity. Which means it makes everyone look more confident and attractive. Empathy and compassion is hot AF. So basically everything else about your post is really quite concerning.

JMHO.

I hope you feel better, and differently, about yourself and the opposite sex and the world that we live in one day.

Just maybe it's a sign of health and security and confidence to be able to help others, and receive help from others.

And idk maybe we shouldn't judge those women who are so offended and hurt whenever a helping hand is offered, they are hurting human beings and all we can really ever do is continue to offer the help, show kindness. Be there for them when they are ready.

a reply to: geezlouise

Nope, not at all. Men wouldn't have those kinds of violent urges if they were directing their energy in better ways. However, our culture glorifies and hypes sex so much that they often direct all their energy toward getting laid (instead of following some religious code for e.g.), and when they fail they get angry, adopt some radical ideology, etc. It's not about f*cking per se, it's about lack of strong values and purpose.

Why would I need to feel "better" or "differently"? I'm just commenting about a well-known phenomenon, nothing rude or strange about that.

I disagree that women are special and deserve special treatment. Women have a tremendous amount of power over men, so much that it's hard to fully explain. Most of them don't don't even realize how much power they have. Predictably, they often abuse that power and can be callous and uncaring, sometimes even cruel. Just like men have a tremendous power over women, and very often hurt and abuse them. What exactly is wrong or concerning about what I'm saying?

originally posted by: Talorc

originally posted by: Vroomfondel

Women are the greatest gift ever given to this Earth. When a woman chooses you she is paying you a compliment for which there are no words. Women are one step shy of magical. You give them groceries and they give you a delicious meal. You give them a house and they give you a home. You give them an expression of love and they give you a family.

Chivalry isn't much to ask for in return.

Sounds like complete nonsense to me. Does your girlfriend offer you an honorary once-a-year BJ when you say things like that, of course only after you spend your money buying her groceries and getting her a new house?

You really understand very little. First, she is my wife, not my girlfriend. Second, we share our love often and without obligation but out of love for each other. Third, she earns money just like I do, "we" buy groceries and pay the bills.

I get the feeling I am talking to a teenager, or an adult with stunted emotional maturity. Women are a gift. Until you realize that you will never know how great a gift they can truly be. Sex is great but is no comparison to making love. And you will never experience real love without respect and honor.

a reply to: Talorc

What exactly is wrong or concerning about what I'm saying?

Pretty much everything. The fact that you cant even see how bad that is says a lot.

The idea that men wouldn't be so violent if they got laid more often is absurd. The whole perception of men getting sexually frustrated and acting out violently is painfully childish and inaccurate. Unless you are referring to a defective mind, some kind of diagnosable disorder. Then, perhaps, you have a point. But I think using mentally unbalanced people as an example for a general theory about human behavior is disingenuous at best.

Your whole idea of the interaction between men and women and the resulting violent outbursts smacks of a childish gratification tantrum.

originally posted by: Talorc
What exactly is wrong or concerning about what I'm saying?

Everything about what you have said in the below post is what is wrong and concerning about what you are saying:

originally posted by: Talorc
Otherwise Supreme Gentlemen™ would be getting laid and not shooting up schools out of frustration.

You can click on your name to read the full post if you don't remember what you wrote.

Everything about this sentence screams: "If men don't get laid they will not be gentlemen and they will end up shooting schools out of frustration." and "If men get laid they will be gentlemen and not shoot up schools."

And you don't see the wrong in that?

AND NOT ONLY THAT, you also have the gall to accuse the OP of giving faulty advice/being deceptive.

ARE YOU OK, SIR?????

I only partially agree with one thing you wrote, that being playful and not giving a flying f-ck what anybody thinks makes a person really quite attractive because that person will exude a fun type of confidence, and confidence is always attractive. What you might not agree with, but what I truly believe, is that chivalry is a sign of confidence and security, not insecurity. Which means it makes everyone look more confident and attractive. Empathy and compassion is hot AF. So basically everything else about your post is really quite concerning.

JMHO.

I hope you feel better, and differently, about yourself and the opposite sex and the world that we live in one day.

Just maybe it's a sign of health and security and confidence to be able to help others, and receive help from others.

And idk maybe we shouldn't judge any human being who act so offended and hurt whenever a helping hand is offered, they are only hurting human beings and all we can really ever do is continue to offer the help, show kindness. Be there for them when they are ready and not let their bad days keep you from helping others in need.

Thanks for clearly listening.

a reply to: Talorc

Also everything this guy says here.

a reply to: Vroomfondel

And I'd also like to add that I feel similarly towards men. Men are magical and beautiful in ways women can never be, and vice versa.

a reply to: geezlouise

It was just a sarcastic sentence. It's concerning to you because for some reason you see something concerning in it. I see it as pretty innocuous.

originally posted by: Vroomfondel

The fact that you cant even see how bad that is says a lot.

See how bad what is?

The idea that men wouldn't be so violent if they got laid more often is absurd.

I didn't say anything like that.

But I think using mentally unbalanced people as an example for a general theory about human behavior is disingenuous at best.

Where am I using mentally unbalanced people as an example of human behavior?

Wow this thread is wacky. Whats so special about holding doors for women? Nothing that's what! Most especially when doors open themselves up for women, even the non electrical self opening kind. It just seems like so much nonesense and buttering up, and back patting. Its kind of meh. Yup meh is the word to describe all this. Its more annoying then it is cute, that or I must be old or something.

Anyways. One good thing has come out of this thread. It has brought to my attention this Timbits problem, even went on to there website and there is not freaking Tim Horbits store in the whole of WA state, there are some in NY, and freaking Kentucky has 3 and Missouri has 2 stores, and of all places why there? But not one place in Washington, and were literally right next to Canada.

What a bunch of bull# that is. I really don't want to drive that far and over the border, but will keep it on my bucket list I suppose, not the first time I drove close to 200 miles one way, and for less. That or order some stuff on Amazon.

Chivalry is especially hard to maintain these days. It's all down to societies lack of horses, mounted combat training, and a feudal system of government.

Unless of course you are referring to the courtial code of conduct, in which case, if we are ever going to reach the heights of pre-Tudor chivalry, women will have to go back to living as property and give up all pursuits with the exception of sewing and writing poetry.

But maybe I'm being factitious. Surely the OP means romantic chivalry, right? Well, grab your duelling pistols men, cause you're going to have to start defending your honour, and the honour the women who favour you've been presented, to the death. Oh, and women are still going to have to go back to a pre-emancipated state. Men better start wearing dress swords, because that's the only way to show that you are a free man and not in bondage. It's not all bad though. Unless you are nobility, men aren't really expected to conduct themselves in a gallant manner.

The last remnants of chivalry were cast off after the 1st World War and with good reason. It's a dead concept and has no place in western society.

a reply to: galadofwarthethird

I can understand the confusion, as I did mention "door holding" in the OP.

Some people took this one tiny aspect of the whole and formed opinions on door holding.

Others, thankfully, recognized the sentiment in its entirety, and this thread is really for them.

Glad you found out about timbits.

a reply to: Zehmzaziel

Got to love the pedants!



Edit: Okay I will admit I had a small laugh at the humor.

originally posted by: Talorc
a reply to: zosimov

Problem is, in most cases men treat women with "honor and respect" for one reason alone (and you know what that is), but their strategy doesn't work.

So, when I help a little old lady across the street...or hold the door for her so she can get through with her walker...It means I'm REALLY hoping to give the old girl a good rogering?

Does buying outrageously expensive Girl Scout cookies to help out the troop mean we're really into little girls?

a reply to: IAMTAT


OMG!

I was once nice and polite to some nuns.


I'm going to hell now

a reply to: Talorc

See how bad what is?

Your attitude toward women and relationships is archaic nonsense.

I didn't say anything like that.

Yes, you did. At least twice:

Otherwise Supreme Gentlemen™ would be getting laid and not shooting up schools out of frustration.

Men wouldn't have those kinds of violent urges if they were directing their energy in better ways. However, our culture glorifies and hypes sex so much that they often direct all their energy toward getting laid (instead of following some religious code for e.g.), and when they fail they get angry, adopt some radical ideology, etc.

This whole perspective is victimist bullsht. "I didn't get laid so I am going to shoot up a school." If you cant see how sick that is....just wow.

Where am I using mentally unbalanced people as an example of human behavior?

See above. Your depiction of men running amok killing people because they don't get enough sex. Anyone who would think like that is defective and unbalanced. That is not normal behavior. Not even close. The fact that you seem to think it is quite frankly is disturbing. I would expect that kind of opinion from a 13 year old.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: IAMTAT


OMG!

I was once nice and polite to some nuns.


I'm going to hell now

Talk about getting into bad habits.

I'll meet you in hell...We'll do lunch.

a reply to: IAMTAT


That's nun of your business!

Applebees?

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: IAMTAT


That's nun of your business!

Applebees?

Superior.


I'll grab us a booth overlooking the lake of flaming mucus.

a reply to: Vroomfondel

First post you quoted was not a serious remark or an argument, was sarcastic.

Second you quoted I said "direct energy in better ways", not get laid. Culture makes young people think they gotta get laid though, it's just a fact. Wasn't referring specifically to mass shooters.

There have been a few mass shooters who claimed to do it because of not getting laid, however it's obviously a number of reasons like mental disorders, social isolation etc. Never said that was normal behavior, now you're just making things up, quote me where I said it's normal or else quit arguing with strawmen.

You got my age wrong btw I'm actually 12.

Women don't deserve special treatment or chivalry just because they're women, that's childish thinking IMO, they're just human like anyone else and that's the way I'll continue to treat them, not go out of my way to be a chivalrous dweeb in shining armor. That's my argument for this thread.

originally posted by: IAMTAT
Superior.


I'll grab us a booth overlooking the lake of flaming mucus.

I like these non conventional jokes.

I'll pack the SPF 1,000,000