Trump’s tariffs aren’t good for the economy, Ron Paul warns

originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
a reply to: carewemust

He was put down by the media from the start and they barely covered anything he said. Can't really expect to get much traction when the media treats you like a stray dog not worth considering.

The media is covering him now. Maybe Ron should announce his candidacy immediately.

originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
a reply to: WUNK22

Who am I defending? I'm just pointing out the fact that anytime anyone says anything bad about Trump his minions invade the thread and trash them. I don't think even Trump supporters can deny that fact.

You say that like it isnt the exact same way on the other side.

originally posted by: toysforadults
Trump cuts taxes and increases tariff's on imports which leads to job creation.

The tariff's he added on imports will not directly affect the average consumer in the same way the tax cuts do yet they will help cover the cost of the tax cuts covered mostly by business.

Win win for the American people yet all the fake economist out there cry.

You are trying to explain simple economics to liberals.

If they actually had the capability to understand basic economics, they would not be liberal.

It's like talking to your cat... when you are done neither of you get anything out of it. It's a cat, after all. You're not going to make it magically understand you.

Wish you luck though...

a reply to: Lumenari

It's like talking to your cat... when you are done neither of you get anything out of it. It's a cat, after all. You're not going to make it magically understand you.

I just asked my cat what he thought of this ...he said your an ass hole for comparing him to a liberal.

originally posted by: notsure1
a reply to: Southern Guardian

It's really funny you know, how this government is going out it's way to protect specific industries

Thats rich coming from the side that forced every single American to buy a product from a specific industry..

JUst lololololol

I am done for the night but just wanted to point out that I voted that you win the interwebs for the night for this comeback.

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

I see a revolving theme, trump is blowing hot air out of his his ass and his supporters think he is providing free energy to power the globe.

Give it time...geez

I waited 5 years for Obama to do something, and about that point I was like, wow, he's done, and he has not done crap, so I think you should give Trump a couple of years...lol

a reply to: projectvxn

JinkoSolar downsizes plans for US factory

The largest prospect of new solar module manufacturing jobs from President Trump’s 30% tariffs on imported solar cells and modules has largely evaporated. According to a fact sheet accompanying a resolution filed by the Jacksonville City Council, JinkoSolar is now planning to invest only $50.5 million in its new Jacksonville facility, Florida, and hire only 200 workers to produce PV modules.

This is 1/8 the investment and 1/4 the employment which was previously planned. Furthermore, there is only one facility being discussed at 4660 New World Avenue, not the two which were previously planned

Sounds like Carrier all over again right? The one whom, after all the promises and that $7 million tax cut deal, ended up cutting more jobs and shipping em' over to Mexico. Carrier just laid off another 215 jobs last month did you hear that?

These Tariffs will do far more damage than to help in the long run. You'll have the odd business come in and dangle a little treat like JinkoSolar here, but it's only pandering and will amount to little to nothing in the end.

originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
Trump defenders trashing Ron Paul coming in 3... 2... 1...

I like Ron on about 60% of what he stands for...But Ron is still a life long politician...

a reply to: toysforadults

Tariffs are bad for the global economy. That is why free trade agreements work better, are more beneficial, and were enacted.

Countries can't provide for themselves 100%, and they rely on trade. Trade only works if it happens as freely as possibly. Tariffs stunt trade, and therefore the trade necessary for economies and commerce to work on a global scale.

Pretty simple, actually.

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

I see a revolving theme, trump is blowing hot air out of his his ass and his supporters think he is providing free energy to power the globe.

Give it time...geez

I waited 5 years for Obama to do something, and about that point I was like, wow, he's done, and he has not done crap, so I think you should give Trump a couple of years...lol

Absolutely time will tell, I'm skeptical this is a good move but we won't know until it all plays out, it would be great if this move benefits the people.

My comment still stands however...

originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
a reply to: carewemust

He was put down by the media from the start and they barely covered anything he said. Can't really expect to get much traction when the media treats you like a stray dog not worth considering.

Ummm...ahhh...hmmm...well...

Where have you been for the last two years...?





YouSir

originally posted by: toysforadults
a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1

I'm not a Trump supporter. If we start seeing arrest in Washington I will become a Trump supporter.

The left is still totally delusional and lives in a fantasy land.

Does the left have a megathread on part four about Trump's impending doom?

We have been lured into cheap goods and become addicted to them. It has made our manufacturing and products rise above the cost of imports, yet their quality has always been very poor, while ours is much more substantial and longer lasting.

Tariffs will cause some withdrawal from this addiction, but it will take some time. We were flooded in the 2000's and nearly two decades of this addiction has left us vulnerable and at the dictate of powers that have no business beyond self enrichment to their selves. We must regain sovereignty within our borders or be consumed by attrition.

It will be a hard road, but I believe in the end we will gain back our lost pride and dominance in manufacturing.

Remind me , who is Ron Paul ?

Trump stated clearly that these Tarriffs will be dropped if the country makes an effort to stop the imbalance of trade. If they buy our stuff. This way our money will not be going out of this country into the pockets of other countries businesses. Right now, Germany sells us way more than they buy from us. www.census.gov...

That is just one country, there are many countries that do that. I am not picking on Germany, if you look at China, there is a big difference there, but we get way more bang for our buck with China than Germany. I still do not think there should be that big of an inequity with China, but Our prices would not be affordable to China, they are affordable with places like Germany and Italy.

originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
Trump defenders trashing Ron Paul coming in 3... 2... 1...

Ron paul has always sucked long before trump.

This is a good article that predicts what will most likely happen as a result of the trade wars:

So since the world revolves around the US dollar, it is essential for the Central Banks of countries to hold dollar reserves.

How can the rest of the world obtain those dollars?

The only way for the Central Banks of foreign countries to own dollars, is by having their economies sell things to the US.

The only way to sell things to the US, is by underselling US producers.

So the Exorbitant Privilege of the US, the production of the world’s fundamental currency - which allows it to purchase anything in any amount, in any place, at any price – produces automatically the fundamental need of foreign countries to undersell US producers.

So if Trump wants to make it hard for foreign countries to obtain the dollars they need to prop up their economies, what he is doing simply undermines the Exorbitant Privilege established by the US itself, in 1945, and reinforced in 1971.

www.plata.com.mx...

a reply to: Southern Guardian

I know now why you are confused.

Unlike leftists who feel compelled to believe everything their masters tell them to believe, everyone else appears to have a mind of their own and their own opinions.

Sometimes, opinions differ.

Now if an opinion differs from what a leftist believes, then the leftist must silence or ban or censor the differing opinion.

For the rest of humanity?

We just agree to disagree.

What's wrong with tariffs, if the Chinese are happy to work for a couple of dollars a day, why not put on tariffs
I don't understand the reason why it's bad

a reply to: SkeptiSchism

In other words if Trump really wants to rebuild our industrial base and eliminate the trade deficit he has to abandon the dollar as the world's reserve currency. Another way would be to revalue gold, then partially back the dollar with gold if we really have our state reserves.