Watch Live Congress and Trump talking GUNS.

a reply to: RomeByFire

All that doesn't matter because Trump is a good Christian, family man. Just ask Stormy!!

originally posted by: JinMI
Are we getting more lists or allowing more access to those already existing lists?

Hard to tell with all the usual suspects bullsnip thrown in this thread.

As mentioned before, Trump supports raising the age limit for the purchasing of long guns to 21, something that Sen. Pat Toomey (R-PA) balked at for the simple reason that a) it denies Americans of voting-age their Second Amendment rights; b) he represents a hunting state; and c) there are already a lot of 18,19, and 20 year olds in his state and elsewhere who have rifles for target practice and hunting. Toomey, along with Sen. Joe Manchin (D-WV) tried to do a comprehensive background check bill after Newtown, which failed. But it’s been rehashed, with the president wanting to add mental health provisions, raising the age limit for firearms, and having universal background checks, while nixing any hope of having concealed carry reciprocity attached to the legislation to make it at least palatable to Republicans.

Yet, in all, this meeting was a total disaster. It pretty much was a capitulation to pro-gun control Democrats.

Yep after a year of calling Trump a nazi. The Democrats just gave him permssion to take their guns, and make it harder for people to get them.

Put that in your peace pipe and smoke it.

a reply to: Mandroid7

That's what they want you to do. So don't.

THE REST OF YOU!!

OK, fine, Trump seems to have betrayed you all, at least on this issue. There really is no point in pointing fingers and saying "I told you so".

Get over the partisan bull#, and get angry at the right god damned people, for Christs sake. Y'all are beginning to sound like those morons who fell to their knees screaming to the heavens when Trump won.

Get mad. Fight back. Let the morons in Congress, and the White House know what the vast majority of us think. If they don't listen, well, mid-terms are only a short time away--reduce the orange clown to a lame duck, then vote him out.

But first, and foremost stop with the partisan bull#, this is crossing all political lines. Get over your bruised egos and go to work.

originally posted by: seagull
a reply to: Mandroid7

That's what they want you to do. So don't.

THE REST OF YOU!!

OK, fine, Trump seems to have betrayed you all, at least on this issue. There really is no point in pointing fingers and saying "I told you so".

Get over the partisan bull#, and get angry at the right god damned people, for Christs sake. Y'all are beginning to sound like those morons who fell to their knees screaming to the heavens when Trump won.

Get mad. Fight back. Let the morons in Congress, and the White House know what the vast majority of us think. If they don't listen, well, mid-terms are only a short time away--reduce the orange clown to a lame duck, then vote him out.

But first, and foremost stop with the partisan bull#, this is crossing all political lines. Get over your bruised egos and go to work.

That's exactly what I told someone yesterday.

Quit relying on people at the NRA, which is an issue you and I have discussed, and having faith in politicians to do the right thing on the firearm issue.

Get involved and make sure they know exactly how you feel or what you think. Use your vote for something better than getting back at those pesky Dems/Reps.

a reply to: neo96
Don't worry neo.


Didn't he say he'd support any bi-partisan DACA bill?
He backed out on that claim pretty quick, didn't he.

Anyone ever have any domestic violence charge?.

On domestic violence: "If you can add domestic violence paragraphs — pages — into [the Manchin-Toomey bill], I'm all for it. I think it's terrific."

www.axios.com...

If so you may be gunless.

Get mad. Fight back. Let the morons in Congress, and the White House know what the vast majority of us think. If they don't listen, well, mid-terms are only a short time away--reduce the orange clown to a lame duck, then vote him out.

I'm with seagull.

“You know, I’m your biggest fan in the whole world,” Trump told Scalise. “I think that bill maybe one day will pass, but it should pass as a separate. If you’re going to put concealed carry between states into this bill, we’re talking about a whole new ball game.” Trump added: “I’m with you, but let it be a separate bill.”

Um, did he say to Scalise guns and ball game?

a reply to: seagull

But first, and foremost stop with the partisan bull#, this is crossing all political lines. Get over your bruised egos and go to work.

My ego's fine, I feel vindicated that the true Trump finally emerged. Me and the lady are going dancing tonite and get drunk as hell in celebration of the Truth.

a reply to: introvert

Oh, the NRA has a roll to play, now more than ever. It's to help alert folks to the danger. That's all they can do, for all intents and purposes.

The rest is our job.

Trump was never a Republican, he was/is, by appearances, nothing more than a wolf in sheeps clothing. Well, on this issue, he's seemingly revealed himself as the lifelong Democrat he'd always been.

Oops.

As with Obama, I was giving him his chance... As with Obama, he's revealed himself to all of us, if we care to take off the goddamned blinders and take a good, close, hard look.

I wondered, when he seemed in favor of the attacking the first amendment by somehow taking CNN out of business. Now, he's, seemingly, in favor of attacking the second. Without recourse to due process.

So... Here we are. I wonder which amendment is next?

a reply to: olaru12

Well then, I wasn't really talking to you, was I?

I was right about him, too.

Now, are we over the gloating, or do you still need a little time? Hurry, 'cause hey, it could be something you fell is important next.

I said all along he was a Clinton plant lol looks like the odds on that went up 1%.

a reply to: seagull

So... Here we are. I wonder which amendment is next?

The 4th.

Their snip won't work mass shootings WILL continue so they will go house to house and round them all up.

And still won't.

a reply to: seagull

Question though are you the actual majority? I don't know, do the people want more gun control have there been studies?.

So much for the 14th while we are at it.

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside.

No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;

nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws

www.law.cornell.edu...

originally posted by: testingtesting
a reply to: seagull

Question though are you the actual majority? I don't know, do the people want more gun control have there been studies?.

Depends on how you define "gun control."

Surveys have reported that most Americans (90%ish, give or take) are on board with comprehensive background checks. Other studies have said among NRA members there's something like 70% support for comprehensive background checks, though the NRA says that isn't accurate because nobody has their members list other than them.

Where it starts breaking down into lesser numbers is when it comes to things like magazine restrictions, bans on specific weapons or weapon types, etc.

I think if Trump puts a dent in the 2nd amendment, he's done, there will be no reelection for him... Maybe if he gets that border wall up before 2020 he might have a chance.... currently he's not looking so good.

There may be something promising here, that I just discovered...

I attempted to send an e-mail, yes, another one, to my ever so beloved Congressional delegation, starting with Patty Murray.

Apparently, they're having problems getting through. I've had the spinning blue circle of death for... Oops.

Oh, isn't that special, the site is down for, and I quote, maintenance.

I'll try again, in a bit, maybe this evening. If the site is still down for "maintenance", well, it's on. I will actively campaign against her, and her cronies, as best I'm able.

They've finally crossed that line that I really didn't know I had.

a reply to: Shamrock6

Cheers
It may help it may not but the underlying problems of why these kids do these crimes are still there.
Why is it these school shootings happen more in the USA than anywhere else?.
It just can't just be because of ease of access to guns.
I dunno maybe as USAers you can help me understand.